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post Apr 4 2014, 21:18
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QUOTE(zotnios @ Apr 4 2014, 20:03) *

That is why I have spent a fortune for 14 battle slots filled with mana and spirit heroic potions. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

lol, i am 50 levels higher and have half of your slots (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Apr 4 2014, 21:22
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 4 2014, 20:54) *

give Protection a try then.


This, or Absorb. At full battle phase I have 7 protective spells active.

It is trivial understand if I would want spend the first 7 turns of a random encounter activating them, I am dead before trying a hit.

Spark in IA + Protection or Absorb saved me a lot of times.

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post Apr 4 2014, 21:27
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 4 2014, 21:18) *

lol, i am 50 levels higher and have half of your slots (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Unlees you make a Hellfest you even dont need them.

QUOTE(zotnios @ Apr 4 2014, 21:22) *

This, or Absorb. At full battle phase I have 7 protective spells active.


I dont think you can use an IA for Absorb, i cant look because im in a IW a the moment, but im quite sure absorb is out of question for an IA.

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post Apr 4 2014, 21:29
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 4 2014, 21:18) *

lol, i am 50 levels higher and have half of your slots (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


You know I am not a scroll or infusion kind of guy. I do not want rely on a thing that is not easily available on the bazaar.

And, a mage consumes mana like a drunk consumes whiskey...
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post Apr 4 2014, 21:37
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QUOTE(zotnios @ Apr 5 2014, 03:22) *

This, or Absorb. At full battle phase I have 7 protective spells active.


Spells that can be put into IA: spark, SP shield, protection, haste, SV.
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post Apr 4 2014, 21:38
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I just love Spirit Shield, but to be honest until i had it to proc at 35% it was a bit lackluster. Just got it down to 20% and it's an absolute beast, regularly eating up 5k+ damage for like 10-20 spirit.

With Haste on IA you get one more free turn before the monsters start hitting, because you already have the speed buff up. For Arenas it's pretty much just the convenience factor to not having to recast it all the time, but in RE's it makes a small difference imho.

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Here you have to multiquote all of them and then use Post Reply at the bottom (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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That's just me personally, but i don't like Absorb very much. It just seems too expensive for the effect it gives. Actually, the only reason i cast it is to get rid of excess mana from a potion ;P

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post Apr 4 2014, 21:43
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ Apr 4 2014, 21:38) *

That's just me personally, but i don't like Absorb very much. It just seems too expensive for the effect it gives. Actually, the only reason i cast it is to get rid of excess mana from a potion ;P


No, i have tried it once, but after that never found a usage for it. Especially because a crit spell ignores absorb, at least i read that he does that.
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post Apr 4 2014, 21:55
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ Apr 4 2014, 15:38) *

That's just me personally, but i don't like Absorb very much. It just seems too expensive for the effect it gives. Actually, the only reason i cast it is to get rid of excess mana from a potion ;P


absorb is worthless as a spell but pretty useful as a scroll. better absorb is a waste of ability points.

also, about IA in general

QUOTE(blue penguin @ Jan 17 2014, 01:19) *

IA1 -> haste, there's no better buff than more speed
IA2 -> protection if playing melee or shadow veil if mage (or shade user)
IA3 -> SS, SoL, the other one of shadow veil/protection that is still not there? It depends on what you wanna do. You need a different one depending on the mode you're playing. If you're doing RoB you most probably want SoL, but for GF you will not want either SS or SoL in IA3 as they would be a waste of mana during the first rounds.


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post Apr 4 2014, 22:20
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How's the shade treatin ya? Gained 50 levels yet? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 4 2014, 22:22
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Gonna have a go with protection then.

Just did a short test on SS on Hell EoD and short PF Arena.
It doesn't trigger as often as i thought it would, at least not for normal enemies.
Another funny observation: SG skills deal more damage at Hell than In Memory at PF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Apr 4 2014, 23:11
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Apr 4 2014, 20:27) *

Unlees you make a Hellfest you even dont need them.

good to know, money saved (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
maybe another one or two just to be sure...

QUOTE(zotnios @ Apr 4 2014, 20:29) *

You know I am not a scroll or infusion kind of guy. I do not want rely on a thing that is not easily available on the bazaar.

same here, so i can understand you... but now that i'm stuck in IW maybe i should start to use them...

QUOTE(simrock87 @ Apr 4 2014, 20:38) *

With Haste on IA you get one more free turn before the monsters start hitting, because you already have the speed buff up. For Arenas it's pretty much just the convenience factor to not having to recast it all the time, but in RE's it makes a small difference imho.

yep, that's the trick! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

QUOTE(simrock87 @ Apr 4 2014, 20:38) *

That's just me personally, but i don't like Absorb very much. It just seems too expensive for the effect it gives. Actually, the only reason i cast it is to get rid of excess mana from a potion ;P

don't know about crit since i also don't use very much (only when i've got an overflow of active spells and still gain a channeling) but it seems that Absorb from spell has like 80% chance to prcess, while from scroll has 100%

btw, thanks for the multiquote thing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Apr 5 2014, 02:02
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Hi guys, i have some questions, i want to be a tank, so right now i wear heavy armor, and im 1H With shield, but i want to know, it would be good to be a tank like that in higher levels?
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post Apr 5 2014, 02:09
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QUOTE(kawaiikun @ Apr 4 2014, 17:02) *

Hi guys, i have some questions, i want to be a tank, so right now i wear heavy armor, and im 1H With shield, but i want to know, it would be good to be a tank like that in higher levels?


Most people in their 200's & lower 300's do that, or Shade + 1h.
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post Apr 5 2014, 02:15
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Apr 5 2014, 02:09) *

Most people in their 200's & lower 300's do that, or Shade + 1h.


Shade and 1H isnt really effective. The high evade reduce the chance for a counterattack. You can play it, but its really slow and nothing you wanna wear at GF Arenas.
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post Apr 5 2014, 02:21
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Apr 4 2014, 19:09) *

Most people in their 200's & lower 300's do that, or Shade + 1h.



QUOTE(Stulpen @ Apr 4 2014, 19:15) *

Shade and 1H isnt really effective. The high evade reduce the chance for a counterattack. You can play it, but its really slow and nothing you wanna wear at GF Arenas.


So.. im doing pretty right i guess.
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post Apr 5 2014, 02:30
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 4 2014, 23:11) *

same here, so i can understand you... but now that i'm stuck in IW maybe i should start to use them...


Create a WTB thread... I am selling a lot of scrolls/infusions...

I need 900.000+ credits for Innate Arcana 2 - while training abilities and searching equipment. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Apr 5 2014, 09:02
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 4 2014, 21:18) *

lol, i am 50 levels higher and have half of your slots (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


or more slots means you can last longer at a higher difficulty. i generally use ~1 heroic mana pot per 10 rounds of PF. So 100 rounds means i'll use ~10 pots + 1 health + 1 spirit + 1 last elixir for safety. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

as for spirit shield, here's some examples (2910 is 20% of my health with max Stronger Spirit):

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in the first situation, Sparks of Life would proc for me if i didn't hv SS. ~10.8k damage & 9 other monsters whacking at me for ~500 each (ie 4500). i've 14.5k HP & they did 15.3k damage. with SS, they only did ~7.4k damage & 100 SP. 1 cure/defend & i'm good to go again.

also, this is all IWTBH, @ PF, they'll do more damage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Apr 5 2014, 09:07
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So these are my current stats, I've kept everything more or less balanced up to this point. However, I wanna start branching off now and focus more on damage and hp.

I'd like a build that focuses on hitting as hard as possible, thoughts?
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post Apr 5 2014, 09:16
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 5 2014, 08:11) *

good to know, money saved (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
maybe another one or two just to be sure...
same here, so i can understand you... but now that i'm stuck in IW maybe i should start to use them...


Well, just letting you know that your best of drops will come from PFUDOR arena, and pack rat is crucial to clearing them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Apr 5 2014, 10:18
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So these are my current stats, I've kept everything more or less balanced up to this point. However, I wanna start branching off now and focus more on damage and hp.

I'd like a build that focuses on hitting as hard as possible, thoughts?


so i'd assume you play Longsword + shade/leather?

imo, i'll raise Str/Dex/Agi/Edu evenly. try to do Random Encounters on the highest difficulty. if you don't have that much time to play (ie your stamina is always @99). imo, i'll just take the volume approach. Do all the arenas on hell+.
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