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post Jan 24 2011, 12:01
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i have ignored str and dex for a long time without too many side effects (well except for lower hp and shield rating)

With 129 supportive proficiency it gives me only extra 18 flee
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post Jan 24 2011, 12:03
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hmm then i must absolutely spam shadow veil

edit: what's the cheapest support spell mpwise? (to spam)

edit2: does haste and scroll of swiftness does the same thing? is haste affected by prof?

edit3: should i open up trophies or save up till higher level?

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post Jan 24 2011, 12:05
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QUOTE(BenderBRodriguez @ Jan 24 2011, 11:03) *

hmm then i must absolutely spam shadow veil

edit: what's the cheapest support spell mpwise? (to spam)

shield at your level or the elemental spikes when you are lvl 110+
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post Jan 24 2011, 12:07
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@BenderBRodriguez: Additional points increase only its duration whereas proficiency its efficiency which is capped on 35 % (5 % + prof / 10 ? I have prof : 44 and 9,4 %), I guess.

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First question : Yes and no,scroll of swiftness is much more better as it instantly gives you maximal possible action speed (200) for fixed number of turns.

Second question : Yes, so the higher prof you have, the bigger boost to action speed you get (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Jan 24 2011, 12:10
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QUOTE(BenderBRodriguez @ Jan 24 2011, 11:03) *


edit2: does haste and scroll of swiftness does the same thing? is haste affected by prof?

edit3: should i open up trophies or save up till higher level?

2: they stack, but it's pointless unless you are using tons of heavy gear with very high burden.
3: if you want items that are close to your level, then you can open them.
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post Jan 24 2011, 12:13
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tempting, but i never see bosses
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post Jan 24 2011, 12:15
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In the lvl 100-170 arena's there are always atleast one boss at the end of each arena. So even if you never see them now or don't have enough tokens of blood to fight them in thr RoB, you will see them often later.
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post Jan 24 2011, 12:50
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I just get SV today ,and with mty prof 82 I get +evade 13.5... I use it instead of shield.

but I still got hit(calculate by loss hp) no less than before(or just little)..ToT

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post Jan 24 2011, 13:10
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wear +evade cloth of course!
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post Jan 24 2011, 13:17
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the only time that i find shadow veil really usefull for me is when fighting monsters on the higher rounds(150+) or against gods.
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post Jan 24 2011, 13:29
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is the credit cost for trainer as you lvl up a skill soley based on how many times you did it (like adept learner did it 10 times so it cost *** credits? or does the credit cost go up as you your character lvls up too?
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post Jan 24 2011, 13:31
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how many time you did it, goes for everything from trainer, price is same for everybody regardless of char level

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post Jan 24 2011, 13:34
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About trainer.

What level of your adept trainer???
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post Jan 24 2011, 13:43
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post Jan 24 2011, 13:55
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QUOTE(dekslam @ Jan 24 2011, 12:34) *

About trainer.

What level of your adept trainer???



Mine's at 96 and hasn't budged for months. It would cost around 5000c to upgrade now and that's a little too expensive for the tiny bit of extra exp you get in my opinion. I prefer to dump my credits in scavenger etc.
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post Jan 24 2011, 14:28
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I'm 71.next cost around 3500c.

More question

I hear someone tell that mage have endless mana..
How do they do??? I'm suffer of use all mana(+potion) real fast. I can't get to high round at all. -*-"
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post Jan 24 2011, 14:46
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QUOTE(dekslam @ Jan 24 2011, 13:28) *

I'm 71.next cost around 3500c.

More question

I hear someone tell that mage have endless mana..
How do they do??? I'm suffer of use all mana(+potion) real fast. I can't get to high round at all. -*-"



They don't have endless mana, just a lot. You can use ether theft with a staff and steal a little mana from the enemies but even that runs out fast. The rest comes from natural regeneration, second wind, gem drops and potions. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
For reference, I currently have 1351 mp.

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QUOTE(chivoef @ Jan 24 2011, 19:46) *

They don't have endless mana, just a lot. You can use ether theft with a staff and steal a little mana from the enemies but even that runs out fast. The rest comes from natural regeneration, second wind and potions. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
For reference, I currently have 1351 mp.


Thank you. ^^

Then the problem is..in latter round,when I try to get ET I must use about 2-6 turn to proc. and wait it work.

And this is my problem (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Jan 24 2011, 15:08
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you have some evade problems...
but you use wrong tempistics: ET is good to use when you are against few monster, 2-3 max, or you will use all gained mana and extra to cure you, in higher difficulties you will die a lot.
Also is better to have a staff with at least 2 turns...


just a doubt
can equipment prof bonus push beyond your level your overall prof, if you have enough base prof?

ie i have 108 elemental prof, my equip gives me +96 prof... my total prof will be 204, or capped to my level 116?

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post Jan 24 2011, 15:19
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QUOTE(tribalspirit @ Jan 24 2011, 14:08) *

you have some evade problems...
but you use wrong tempistics: ET is good to use when you are against few monster, 2-3 max, or you will use all gained mana and extra to cure you, in higher difficulties you will die a lot.
Also is better to have a staff with at least 2 turns...
just a doubt
can equipment prof bonus push beyond your level your overall prof, if you have enough base prof?

ie i have 108 elemental prof, my equip gives me +96 prof... my total prof will be 204, or capped to my level 116?

204
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