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Mar 29 2014, 00:58
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something
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QUOTE(tempasdf @ Mar 28 2014, 12:51)  how much more should be worth DW-Heavy than 1H-Light equipment to passing on PF in less time? perhaps it has adequate numbers for Hell, but even for IWBTH it is hard for me to imagine.. ^^
DW heavy is suicide. 1H light is super safe but super slow. you'd be better off playing DW shade or 1H power if you want to clear PFUDOR faster
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Mar 29 2014, 01:18
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zen_zen
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QUOTE(tempasdf @ Mar 28 2014, 15:45)  How do you think are the chances that L300+ player would buy Superior and play with Average? i do ^^ lately I've been experimenting a lot and now I want 7mC quickly, but who knows maybe I will want to play with shadowdancer/fleet mix or simply IW or anything
I see the unhealthy trend of rising prices, even for bad things (and it is far from bad) and should not be underestimated trends of fashion H@H, awards and donations result in inflation and generate a lot of rich players unknowing where to spend their non-gaming resources - why not help them and yourself?
so it's better for me to have 300kC in a week than 150kC even today and if it remains to gather dust - not too upset, will be trophy 300kC is not that much for player of my level ^^
thanks for comment about auction but I've already spent too much forum time therefore attend to it promptly at another time ^^
Why should any advanced player buy Superior and below gear at all? Most of my fecking drops are Superiors, which are only good for sending to the bazaar, even the Free Shop doesn't want many of them. That's right, I forgot. That's your shopping ground. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Mixing different types of Shade gear is no experiment at all, I am wearing 3 different types at the moment. It's dictated by what I have and what I could afford. They are all classified as Light Armour and as such eligible for the full bonus points. And there you go again, going off on a tangent of your own which is probably perfectly sensible only to you...
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Mar 29 2014, 02:32
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tempasdf
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Mar 29 2014, 01:18)  Why should any advanced player buy Superior and below gear at all?
if you have no answer to some question or if you think something is not possible - not mean it does not exist QUOTE Mixing different types of Shade gear is no experiment at all I did not called it the experiment QUOTE Most of my fecking drops are Superiors, which are only good for sending to the bazaar, even the Free Shop doesn't want many of them. That's right, I forgot. That's your shopping ground. laugh.gif why are you so adamantly perceive all that you do not understand? such behavior is typical for children ^^you forgot the sense of each game, or did not know to receive income for its founders and to have fun for players people are different and take pleasure in variety of different ways yr attempts to taunts suggests that you lack of friendship, which is magic. by the way, my main set - Breath of Alhoon - consists of Mag/Exq 5/6PABs armor QUOTE(something @ Mar 29 2014, 00:58)  DW heavy is suicide.
this is why and asked about it ^^QUOTE 1H light is super safe but super slow. you'd be better off playing DW shade or 1H power if you want to clear PFUDOR faster this is obvious, so another question what has a higher speed/price ratio, DW-shade or 1H-power?
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Mar 29 2014, 08:41
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(tempasdf @ Mar 29 2014, 02:32) 
this is obvious, so another question what has a higher speed/price ratio, DW-shade or 1H-power?
imo, 1H + power. you can buy a very decent power protection/warding/balance stuff @10-50k. though, with the current Rapier Slaughter + Force shield prices are a bit too crazy, but there's still plenty of decent priced ones if you're okay with having the 3rd best stuff instead of "The Best™" ie. i still don't believe this force shield currently has a 680k bid. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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Mar 29 2014, 08:47
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Owyn
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shouldn't TH Light be faster than DW Light? (not in RoB of course)
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Mar 29 2014, 10:32
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something
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Mar 29 2014, 02:47)  shouldn't TH Light be faster than DW Light? (not in RoB of course)
on PFUDOR? i doubt it, unless you have a legendary mace/estoc and you forged the shit out of it. in my experience it's about the same on nintendo and 2H gets faster as you get lower in difficulty. i could be wrong though since i don't have a decent 2H weapon to play around with.
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Mar 29 2014, 10:50
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 29 2014, 17:41)  imo, 1H + power. you can buy a very decent power protection/warding/balance stuff @10-50k. though, with the current Rapier Slaughter + Force shield prices are a bit too crazy, but there's still plenty of decent priced ones if you're okay with having the 3rd best stuff instead of "The Best™" ie. i still don't believe this force shield currently has a 680k bid. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) DW Light can be fast, you just need to learn to use Frenzied blow. It's crazy good for both single target and aoe damage. QUOTE(something @ Mar 29 2014, 19:32)  on PFUDOR? i doubt it, unless you have a legendary mace/estoc and you forged the shit out of it.
in my experience it's about the same on nintendo and 2H gets faster as you get lower in difficulty. i could be wrong though since i don't have a decent 2H weapon to play around with.
2H on PFUDOR is always slower than 1H + OFC, anywhere. This post has been edited by holy_demon: Mar 29 2014, 10:51
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Mar 29 2014, 10:52
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ConfusedPerv
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i believe i already collected 21 ponies,but OFC is still not appeared, not in the quickbar and skill/spell list do i still need more? help (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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Mar 29 2014, 11:06
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(ConfusedPerv @ Mar 29 2014, 19:52)  i believe i already collected 21 ponies,but OFC is still not appeared, not in the quickbar and skill/spell list do i still need more? help (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Try changing your equipment set? Or maybe relogging ?
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Mar 29 2014, 11:08
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n125
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QUOTE(ConfusedPerv @ Mar 29 2014, 01:52)  i believe i already collected 21 ponies,but OFC is still not appeared, not in the quickbar and skill/spell list do i still need more? help (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Your collection does have 21 different figurines, right?
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Mar 29 2014, 11:15
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zen_zen
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 28 2014, 23:41)  imo, 1H + power. you can buy a very decent power protection/warding/balance stuff @10-50k. though, with the current Rapier Slaughter + Force shield prices are a bit too crazy, but there's still plenty of decent priced ones if you're okay with having the 3rd best stuff instead of "The Best™" ie. i still don't believe this force shield currently has a 680k bid. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) Makes you sick doesn't it? Makes me sick that I didn't bid on the shield at your auction. Looking at the pricing in various WTS vendors for a Force Shield at that time, I figured it would fetch at least 100 to 200k, which I did not have and had given up on it. Considering the bid for the shield at Dreamophobia's auction, plus a void slaughter rapier whose ADB is near ExMax, these two pieces alone will fetch near 2 Mc if not more. Whatever price point you arrive at after adding the Power set, I'd think that a comparable DW Shade set can be acquired for about the same cost.
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Mar 29 2014, 11:31
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tempasdf
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Mar 29 2014, 10:20)  <snip nonsensical Christmas Tree Writing> <snip nonsensical @zen_zen Writing> QUOTE(tempasdf @ Mar 29 2014, 00:45)  How do you think are the chances that L300+ player would buy Superior and play with Average? i do ^^ lately I've been experimenting a lot and now I want 7mC quickly, but who knows maybe I will want to play with shadowdancer/fleet mix or simply IW or anything can not only my English is not so good or someone else besides @zen_zen sees something here where I call it an experiment? ie there is no even single player showing faster results on PF not with 1H/Mage styles than others with 1H? sounds like imbalanced and monopoly of fighting style for high-levels.. ^^or have at least one, even with maximum forged equipment? magic equipment like this have an inflated price at bazaar Exquisite Phase Shoes of NiflheimThis post has been edited by tempasdf: Mar 29 2014, 11:51
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Mar 29 2014, 11:38
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ConfusedPerv
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 29 2014, 16:06)  Try changing your equipment set? Or maybe relogging ?
changing equip set does the magic,thanks! QUOTE(n125 @ Mar 29 2014, 16:08)  Your collection does have 21 different figurines, right?
yep (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) the damage output still low though..
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Mar 29 2014, 12:08
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Mar 29 2014, 11:15)  Makes you sick doesn't it? Makes me sick that I didn't bid on the shield at your auction. Looking at the pricing in various WTS vendors for a Force Shield at that time, I figured it would fetch at least 100 to 200k, which I did not have and had given up on it.
Considering the bid for the shield at Dreamophobia's auction, plus a void slaughter rapier whose ADB is near ExMax, these two pieces alone will fetch near 2 Mc if not more. Whatever price point you arrive at after adding the Power set, I'd think that a comparable DW Shade set can be acquired for about the same cost.
the exponentially price increase for "slightly" better items is sickening. i wonder if it can reach 1mil by the end of the auction. also, i wonder if this Leg power protection can reach 1mil too, it's at 750k now. seriously, i remember selling 2 noodly to switch from 2H+shade to 1H+power. everything is barely Exquisite (ie pxp 315-320), but it's still faster than my 2H+shade. then now most of my upgrades cost a few noodly each. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) QUOTE(ConfusedPerv @ Mar 29 2014, 11:38)  the damage output still low though..
hv you try using it on Spirit Stance? This post has been edited by malkatmp: Mar 29 2014, 12:08
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Mar 29 2014, 12:32
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ConfusedPerv
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 29 2014, 17:08)  the exponentially price increase for "slightly" better items is sickening. i wonder if it can reach 1mil by the end of the auction. also, i wonder if this Leg power protection can reach 1mil too, it's at 750k now. seriously, i remember selling 2 noodly to switch from 2H+shade to 1H+power. everything is barely Exquisite (ie pxp 315-320), but it's still faster than my 2H+shade. then now most of my upgrades cost a few noodly each. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) hv you try using it on Spirit Stance? yes,i think its because my base damage is still low tho..
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Mar 29 2014, 12:32
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 29 2014, 07:41)  ie. i still don't believe this force shield currently has a 680k bid. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) it has a couple of magic words in it, so it's possible. btw, except for parry all of its stats are in exq/exqmax range, so i don't fully understand myself.
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Mar 29 2014, 12:42
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(ConfusedPerv @ Mar 29 2014, 20:38)  changing equip set does the magic,thanks! yep (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) the damage output still low though.. I have to point out that OFC with light and unforged weapon is pitifully weak
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Mar 29 2014, 12:51
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(ConfusedPerv @ Mar 29 2014, 12:32)  yes,i think its because my base damage is still low tho..
iirc, with ~4300 base damage, you can kill almost everything on PF with OFC on spirit stance. it's doable with a full Exquisite (maybe a few Mag) non-slaughter power gear. (ie protection/warding/balance) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) though, those "In Memory" or "Generic Giant" guys simply won't die easy. anyway, congrats on getting OFC. QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 29 2014, 12:32)  it has a couple of magic words in it, so it's possible. btw, except for parry all of its stats are in exq/exqmax range, so i don't fully understand myself.
i was thinking maybe 3-500k. i guess i'm out of touch with reality. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 29 2014, 12:46)  i thought Estoc + Slaughter is great for the rich folks, no? seriously, that Str roll is awesome & the damage is good. This post has been edited by malkatmp: Mar 29 2014, 12:54
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