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post Mar 28 2014, 12:24
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QUOTE(Synders @ Mar 28 2014, 19:05) *


Can you relink your gear? A bunch of them are the same.... Then we can help you..


QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 28 2014, 19:07) *

you can also see decent-but-not-so-good Leg Power Armor of Warding at 200k or so at auction...


Makes me cry to see Leg Power for so cheap. Maybe HV is dropping too many Leg gears now..... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Mar 28 2014, 12:33
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oh...
sorry for my carelessness...
i have done edited them...
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post Mar 28 2014, 12:37
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Mar 28 2014, 12:24) *

Makes me cry to see Leg Power for so cheap. Maybe HV is dropping too many Leg gears now..... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


imo, the Slaughter gear price are just going too crazy. even average Exquisite ones (sometimes Superior) ones are going for 100+k when an equally good Mag Power warding one are going for <100k.
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post Mar 28 2014, 12:39
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 28 2014, 13:37) *

imo, the Slaughter gear price are just going too crazy. even average Exquisite ones (sometimes Superior) ones are going for 100+k when an equally good Mag Power warding one are going for <100k.


Superior? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Really?
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post Mar 28 2014, 12:46
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with that build, I only able to finish RE on Nightmare and Arena on Hard...
on higher difficulty I feel its to hard...
1. is there something wrong with my build???
2. what should I do to improve my build???
3. which is better for me to use, weapons on my build or this???
4. is there any tips for farming credits???


You need better gear. Then do arenas on higher diffs. Or just go with the trend and get a rapier and force shield and 1H it. DW is too tough if your gears aren't great.


QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 28 2014, 19:37) *

imo, the Slaughter gear price are just going too crazy. even average Exquisite ones (sometimes Superior) ones are going for 100+k when an equally good Mag Power warding one are going for <100k.


Force shield is too strong; it leaves no niche for buckler or kite. Then on top of that 2H sux.
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post Mar 28 2014, 13:32
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Mar 28 2014, 17:46) *

You need better gear. Then do arenas on higher diffs. Or just go with the trend and get a rapier and force shield and 1H it. DW is too tough if your gears aren't great.


well, I go with DW because my proficients tend to go with it...
so that mean the problem are on my eq, right??? I thought superior ones are still useful for my Lv... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
what the minimum prefix for my current Lv???
and if you suggest shield, which shield you think better???
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post Mar 28 2014, 13:41
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Still more advice rolling in, love you guys (platonic of course) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Mar 28 2014, 02:50) *

Raise your Agility, Simrock. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Could someone elaborate a bit?
I stopped keeping Agi up a couple levels back when i switched to Heavy, because the high burden pretty much eliminates the speed and dodge bonuses.

QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 28 2014, 05:02) *

like others have said, you need better gear. those slaughter gear are okay, but their roll/PAB are bad and that'll lower your base damage (equipment attack damage + Str + Dex). personally, i did IWBTH Arenas with only non-slaughter power gear. if you look around in WTB, most of them is going for 10-50k. then i got OFC, to do PF arenas up to TTT. if you want, you can use those 250haths (ie ~2.2mil credits) to buy a decent set of Exquisite power gear (maybe even a few decent slaughter gear) & OFC (75k x 21 = 1575k). could spend a bit on a good rapier & shield too. though, after OFC you'll have ~675k for equipment. imo, it's plenty if you mix slaughter with non-slaughter power gear. you can probably even keep your armor & boots.


Had a look around WTS and i'll probably go with Power of non-slaughter, as a decent Exq Slaughter set right now would be around 3-5mil, which is a bit more than i have, even with selling off the hath (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Is OFC really that big of an upgrade? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 28 2014, 05:02) *

generally, i bring 1 Health & 1 Spirit Potion, then the rest is mana. because with mana i can use Cure & drain monsters for Spirits. don't use focus, use defend.

If you want to, i'd like you to elaborate on that one.
I just recently started playing around with deprecating spells as it got too annoying having all of gc's monsters on RE knocking down my HP on RE ;P
So with low to no Prof in Dark this sounds like:
Get Spirit Theft, then during recuperating after a round: Focus > Corruption (hope for Ripened Soul) > Drain > Focus till OC is gone ?

QUOTE(zen_zen @ Mar 28 2014, 10:53) *

Convert the Hath that you've been hoarding to credits and get yourself some decent equipment. It's amazing how much you've got invested in training and perks but your personal gear is a disgrace. If you want to play at the highest level, your gear has to help you not hinder you. Those 1 and 2 PAB equipment has to go, the only time you should consider wearing them is if they had an exceptionally high ADB (I mean Legendary levels), that you can justify sacrificing some defensive capability for that extra offensive power.

Yeah, most of the parts are some things i just picked up from the bazaar, didn't get on the forum for too long >.<
Trainings just run along the side, with the long training running over night. Keeps the credits down (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Mar 28 2014, 13:45
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Mar 28 2014, 11:24) *

Makes me cry to see Leg Power for so cheap. Maybe HV is dropping too many Leg gears now..... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

the real matter is that everybody now tends to go for slaughter ones, whichever prefix they are - two or three PABs, is enough to see a slaughter go for 100, 200... as malka pointed. so you can snap for cheap some good warding or protection ones, spending less money and losing only a bunch of damage compared to exq slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(Synders @ Mar 28 2014, 12:32) *

well, I go with DW because my proficients tend to go with it...
so that mean the problem are on my eq, right??? I thought superior ones are still useful for my Lv... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
what the minimum prefix for my current Lv???
and if you suggest shield, which shield you think better???

rather than prefixes, i'd go for PABs, but that's only my two cents; however, you could start to migrate from sup to exq. as for shields, force ones if you can afford them, they have the best block chance

@simrock: AGI is useful also for PMI, so raise it a bit. if you're heavy you can surely prefer STR, DEX and END, but a point of AGI every now and then gives benefits to PMI and SP tank

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post Mar 28 2014, 13:56
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ Mar 28 2014, 13:41) *

Is OFC really that big of an upgrade? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


it really depends on who you asked. it does improve arena times a bit (~20%). though, on larger crowds, because it's silly to waste 200 overcharge on 4-5 guys. also, it's something extra that stays with you. ie just in case, they nerf 1H+shield, you'll still hv OFC & not 1mil+ gear that now worth 200k. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

right now, i think i'm hitting another wall. i can spend 200-500+k credits on each equipment, just to get a bit more improvements. ie 10 more strength & 50 more damage worth 200k?.

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If you want to, i'd like you to elaborate on that one.
I just recently started playing around with deprecating spells as it got too annoying having all of gc's monsters on RE knocking down my HP on RE ;P
So with low to no Prof in Dark this sounds like:
Get Spirit Theft, then during recuperating after a round: Focus > Corruption (hope for Ripened Soul) > Drain > Focus till OC is gone ?


don't focus. Corruption/Disintegrate => (hope for Ripened Soul) > Drain while all on OC. with ~150 in forbidden prof, it takes 1-2 Corruption/Disintegrate for at least 1 Ripened Soul proc.
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post Mar 28 2014, 14:39
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 28 2014, 17:21) *

better offhand with higher parry chance. with Shade DW, evade + parry to help you survive higher levels. slowly upgrade your superior stuff to Exq. also, try to max out pack rat for more potions.

i think your main hand is fine.

as for credits, try to do as many Arenas as possible on the highest possible difficult. then save up all the Blood Tokens for the Flying Spaghetti Monster when you reach lv200. the Noodly drop can easily sell for 55-60k credits.


sorry, I just found this post now...
so for now I just need to find offhand with better parry, right???
time to window shopping then... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 28 2014, 18:45) *

rather than prefixes, i'd go for PABs, but that's only my two cents; however, you could start to migrate from sup to exq. as for shields, force ones if you can afford them, they have the best block chance


by better PABs, i.e. you mean that this rapier is better than this one???
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post Mar 28 2014, 14:48
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ Mar 28 2014, 20:41) *

Is OFC really that big of an upgrade? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

OFC will decrease your clear time on IWBTH/PFUDOR by 10~20%, on Hell by 5~10%, if you're 1H user.
Except 1H, OFC is not that efficient.
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post Mar 28 2014, 16:12
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Magnificent Shade Breastplate of the Fleet (346)
my new record in bazaar price and PXP of drop equipment, how much it might cost?
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post Mar 28 2014, 17:08
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Magnificent Shade Breastplate of the Fleet (346)
my new record in bazaar price and PXP of drop equipment, how much it might cost?

Currently afk, so i can't be sure but it seems better than my exq. Is 80k viable? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Mar 28 2014, 17:17
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The other reason to raise Agl is Evade.

I'm a 1h+Power user and I have an actual Evade! (1% evade chance, sure... but it's there!)

Mainly though, for more PMI. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 28 2014, 17:47
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QUOTE(tempasdf @ Mar 28 2014, 14:12) *
Magnificent Shade Breastplate of the Fleet (346)
my new record in bazaar price and PXP of drop equipment, how much it might cost?

To be fair the damage and evade (it's a fleet after all) are meh for mag. But the STR, DEX and AGI rolls make up for it quite well. I'd say 300-400k if you're lucky, 100-200k if unlucky.
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post Mar 28 2014, 18:08
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sorry, I just found this post now...
so for now I just need to find offhand with better parry, right???
time to window shopping then... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
by better PABs, i.e. you mean that this rapier is better than this one???


as far as parry goes try to aim for 42%. that's the point when chaos'd mobs on PFUDOR will still have 1/3 of their attacks parried.

i'm not sure which rapier would perform better, but i'd stick with the balance one. experiment with both to be sure. you might also find a club to be useful; stunned monsters can't kill you.
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post Mar 28 2014, 18:37
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hello pro can you give any idea about this weapon ?
i bought it for 24k quite cheap i think
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0d6796fb7a

in my view it dont have the most importance Dex Attribute point but it is acceptable right (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Mar 28 2014, 18:51
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 28 2014, 17:08) *
Currently afk, so i can't be sure but it seems better than my exq. Is 80k viable? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

even for 150kC I would prefer to keep 4PAB Mag fleet (Leg PXP range) for self-using mix light later ^^
QUOTE(blue penguin @ Mar 28 2014, 17:47) *
To be fair the damage and evade (it's a fleet after all) are meh for mag. But the STR, DEX and AGI rolls make up for it quite well. I'd say 300-400k if you're lucky, 100-200k if unlucky.

precisely due to low damage and mitigations, I do not want to use it right now
but I think before L350-400 PABs are better than other rolls, so do not want to give it away for free
but 300kC sounds good to me, so will need to figure out How do I use auctions, thx ^^
QUOTE(leonora @ Mar 28 2014, 18:37) *
hello pro can you give any idea about this weapon ?

I'm not a pro, but I think in the current version of HV before L250+ Ethereal Axe of Slaughter is better for 1H/mainhand than Rapier ^^

how much more should be worth DW-Heavy than 1H-Light equipment to passing on PF in less time?
perhaps it has adequate numbers for Hell, but even for IWBTH it is hard for me to imagine.. ^^
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post Mar 28 2014, 20:55
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QUOTE(tempasdf @ Mar 28 2014, 09:51) *

even for 150kC I would prefer to keep 4PAB Mag fleet (Leg PXP range) for self-using mix light later ^^


Not going to happen. How would a piece of equipment that's unsuitable for you now would become suitable later when you would have levelled up even higher and facing correspondingly more dangerous mobs than what you are seeing now? If you keep it for that reason, it will be a fine piece of dust collector in your inventory.

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precisely due to low damage and mitigations, I do not want to use it right now
but I think before L350-400 PABs are better than other rolls, so do not want to give it away for free
but 300kC sounds good to me, so will need to figure out How do I use auctions, thx ^^


I think 300k is being optimistic but what do I know. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You can MoogleMail the equipment to one of the Auctioneers in the WTS with "For Auction" in the subject. I believe Komica Island allows reserve pricing, so you specify a reserved minimum price (300k?) that you are willing to accept. If Komica Island doesn't think it can get that price, he will probably send the equipment back to you. Or you can try to auction it yourself but I doubt that your auction will attract enough traffic to command that kind of price for an equipment with an obvious flaw.
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post Mar 29 2014, 00:45
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Not going to happen. How would a piece of equipment that's unsuitable for you now would become suitable later when you would have levelled up even higher and facing correspondingly more dangerous mobs than what you are seeing now? If you keep it for that reason, it will be a fine piece of dust collector in your inventory.

How do you think are the chances that L300+ player would buy Superior and play with Average?
i do ^^ lately I've been experimenting a lot and now I want 7mC quickly, but who knows
maybe I will want to play with shadowdancer/fleet mix or simply IW or anything

I see the unhealthy trend of rising prices, even for bad things
(and it is far from bad) and should not be underestimated trends of fashion
H@H, awards and donations result in inflation and generate a lot of rich players
unknowing where to spend their non-gaming resources - why not help them and yourself?
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I think 300k is being optimistic but what do I know. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

so it's better for me to have 300kC in a week than 150kC even today
and if it remains to gather dust - not too upset, will be trophy
300kC is not that much for player of my level ^^
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You can MoogleMail the equipment to one of the Auctioneers in the WTS with "For Auction" in the subject. I believe Komica Island allows reserve pricing, so you specify a reserved minimum price (300k?) that you are willing to accept. If Komica Island doesn't think it can get that price, he will probably send the equipment back to you. Or you can try to auction it yourself but I doubt that your auction will attract enough traffic to command that kind of price for an equipment with an obvious flaw.

thanks for comment about auction
but I've already spent too much forum time
therefore attend to it promptly at another time ^^
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how much more should be worth DW-Heavy than 1H-Light equipment to passing on PF in less time?
perhaps it has adequate numbers for Hell, but even for IWBTH it is hard for me to imagine.. ^^

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