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post Mar 27 2014, 15:36
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Mar 27 2014, 14:28) *

I think the most profitable way to use monsters is to crystal them up to plvl 750 (when/if you can) and only invest chaos tokens in double gift.
For example, a lvl 750 monster with double gift gives about 4-6 HG mats daily (along with possible bindings/phazon/etc).


QUOTE(Stulpen @ Mar 27 2014, 14:18) *

Nah, not necessary, but you should really create other monsters. A PL 50 monster hath the same chance to bring you a Slaughter then a PL 1000. Ok, not exacly the same, but it is possible. And for you it should be a lot easier to get another monster, than to get one to a decent PL.

mmm. by now i really can't afford to bring my monster till PL750. i think i'd go for creating another monster with low PL but keep investing in the main one for other 300 levels or so, thanks to all

btw, i noted that an army of weaks 'jenga-some-random-numbers' keep appearing here and there, that's a good strategy too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Mar 27 2014, 15:48
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 27 2014, 16:36) *

mmm. by now i really can't afford to bring my monster till PL750. i think i'd go for creating another monster with low PL but keep investing in the main one for other 300 levels or so, thanks to all


Cant say anything about PL 750 my highest monster is just 605 and it cost a lot of credits and at the moment it looks unlikely to help me get more credits. Remember from 11 to 12 cost me 64k credits but it is still possible that he brings just one LG Material. Monster are really just a long-term investment, and not a quick way to get a lot of credits. Well maybee its a lot easier for a Gold Star or peoble with a lot of H@H Time, to get some of there monsters to 750 and get a lot of credits. But i am neither one thing nor the other.
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post Mar 27 2014, 16:19
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Mar 27 2014, 14:48) *

Cant say anything about PL 750 my highest monster is just 605 and it cost a lot of credits and at the moment it looks unlikely to help me get more credits. Remember from 11 to 12 cost me 64k credits but it is still possible that he brings just one LG Material. Monster are really just a long-term investment, and not a quick way to get a lot of credits. Well maybee its a lot easier for a Gold Star or peoble with a lot of H@H Time, to get some of there monsters to 750 and get a lot of credits. But i am neither one thing nor the other.

this means that also when i'll be 100 levels higher than now i'll have problems with credits? good to know, i don't even have the cookie (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 27 2014, 16:32
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 27 2014, 17:19) *

this means that also when i'll be 100 levels higher than now i'll have problems with credits? good to know, i don't even have the cookie (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Well, the cookie just gives a Hath everyday, but i save them all up for Perks, so it makes no difference.
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post Mar 27 2014, 17:07
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QUOTE(Stulpen @ Mar 27 2014, 15:32) *

Well, the cookie just gives a Hath everyday, but i save them all up for Perks, so it makes no difference.

it still means a few of free perks, it doesn't seem nothing to me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) and it has chocolate on it! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Mar 27 2014, 22:27
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Hey Guys,

so far i've been stalking this thread for some time and learned a bit on the way, but this time i'd like to ask for some advice.

Let's start with the screenshots...
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http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=7377c6e5d5
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Haste and Spirit Shield on IA

As you can see i'm rolling 1H with Power of whateverwascheap.

Q1) I am able to do RE on PFUDOR and Arenas up to TTT on BT, but i just can't make the jump to IWBTH on any Arena with more than 40 rounds. I either just die outright or run out of potions. Focus doesn't seem to do the job either as i just get hit quite hard by any mob i leave standing.
Same with HF, i just seem to die after round 200 or run out of potions somewhere around 300-400.
Just what am i missing? ;(

Q2) I'm creeping closer to 250 hath, and i'm wondering which of the 250hath perks (VV, Thinking Cap, IA3, Crystarium I) would be best after IA2?

Any other advice i didn't think of is of course also really appreciated.

sim

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post Mar 28 2014, 00:02
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1. need better gear. Sup unforged won't cut it in PFUDOR. And you shouldn't forge Supmax stuff.Search the freeshop for either Mag or Legendary Power of whatever, they apparently have Peerless for free too.

2. VV, Thinking Cap, IA3, Crystarium I; I would also think about increasing LotD. I'm just speculating, but I think there is some code written in the game where lower levels can get Legs/Peerless at a higher chance than high levels.



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post Mar 28 2014, 00:16
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Mar 27 2014, 23:02) *

need better gear. Sup unforged won't cut it in PFUDOR. And you shouldn't forge Supmax stuff.Search the freeshop for either Mag or Legendary Power of whatever, they apparently have Peerless for free too.

surely he needs better gears, but he's a godslayer: if you meant FS, we won't accept requests from him and don't have peerless.
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post Mar 28 2014, 00:33
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As said above, you should upgrade at least the superiors pieces of equipment, try to find some with 3 PAB...

Completely unrelated but I have a question too: Is there any formula in the wiki that shows the trophies drop chances for Schoolgirls arenas (EoD and ED)? Except for last round since it's 100%, but it looks pretty random. Is it influenced by the difficulty level too?

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post Mar 28 2014, 00:35
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@treesloth he's a godslayer. no freeshop for him.

QUOTE(simrock87 @ Mar 27 2014, 16:27) *

Q1) I am able to do RE on PFUDOR and Arenas up to TTT on BT, but i just can't make the jump to IWBTH on any Arena with more than 40 rounds. I either just die outright or run out of potions. Focus doesn't seem to do the job either as i just get hit quite hard by any mob i leave standing.
Same with HF, i just seem to die after round 200 or run out of potions somewhere around 300-400.
Just what am i missing? ;(

Q2) I'm creeping closer to 250 hath, and i'm wondering which of the 250hath perks (VV, Thinking Cap, IA3, Crystarium I) would be best after IA2?

Any other advice i didn't think of is of course also really appreciated.

sim


replace any health potions you have with mana and remove a few points from better health pots to put in better spirit pots. at this point in the game health pots are just for show. focus only when 1 monster is left and it's stunned.
replace your storm spike shield with the flame one; a missed attack can't be countered.
your slaughter pieces are way too shitty to be useful(especially that helmet. ew.) so replace them asap. i'm sure someone in WTS has some reasonably priced power on sale that will do way better than those.
VV might work better for you since you're heavy, but AFAIK VV and IA3 give about the same survival boost. toss a coin

@boulay it's a static 10%

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post Mar 28 2014, 00:37
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 28 2014, 07:16) *

if you meant FS, we won't accept requests from him and don't have peerless.


Yes, I meant FS. I don't want to drag out an argument, but that's what I don't understand about that shop. That shop can give out Legendary whatever to noobs, but then can't give out Legendaries to people like simrock who really need it to make the jump to the next level?
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post Mar 28 2014, 00:42
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QUOTE(boulay @ Mar 27 2014, 23:33) *

Completely unrelated but I have a question too: Is there any formula in the wiki that shows the trophies drop chances for Schoolgirls arenas (EoD and ED)? Except for last round since it's 100%, but it looks pretty random. Is it influenced by the difficulty level too?

iirc every schoolgirl should have a 10% chance or so...

QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Mar 27 2014, 23:37) *

Yes, I meant FS. I don't want to drag out an argument, but that's what I don't understand about that shop. That shop can give out Legendary whatever to noobs, but then can't give out Legendaries to people like simrock who really need it to make the jump to the next level?

every suggestion is accepted, since we can avoid arguments whenever we want (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

but lol, it looks like there's something pervert behind that, is it? actually we should really put a minimum cap... i don't remember, how did wolfgirl behave in these cases? to ask for leg you needed to be over level 150, but the open window to ask for them was 150~200 or simply 150+, so even godslayers could ask for them?

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post Mar 28 2014, 00:43
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QUOTE(something @ Mar 27 2014, 23:35) *

@boulay it's a static 10%


Okay, I'm just very unlucky then. With the number of schoolgirls inside I thought I could get some trophies but I only got about 5 of them today. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

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post Mar 28 2014, 00:53
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Mar 27 2014, 17:37) *
Yes, I meant FS. I don't want to drag out an argument, but that's what I don't understand about that shop. That shop can give out Legendary whatever to noobs, but then can't give out Legendaries to people like simrock who really need it to make the jump to the next level?

Free shops shouldn't even exist. You can only buy perfect gear for tens of millions or slightly-less-than perfect gear overpriced at millions. Decent upgrades get put in the free shops, and good luck finding the same on your own. You can't even donate to them because they have too much or what they have is just better-enough not to bother.
I miss the days when gear had levels.
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post Mar 28 2014, 00:57
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Wondering what the best strategy is for getting high quality drops. I play hourlies and arenas on PFUDOR, hundreds of rounds per day, with LOTD 25/25, Scavenger 50/50 and Quartermaster 16/20. I almost never get Legendary and those I do get are crap (cotton, buckler, leather) and very rarely Magnificent (ditto).

I see people getting 1 or 2 Legendaries every week and lots of Mag so I figure I must be doing something wrong or be the unluckiest roller on HV.

Any advice appreciated.
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post Mar 28 2014, 01:01
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QUOTE(CZer @ Mar 27 2014, 23:57) *

Wondering what the best strategy is for getting high quality drops. I play hourlies and arenas on PFUDOR, hundreds of rounds per day, with LOTD 25/25, Scavenger 50/50 and Quartermaster 16/20. I almost never get Legendary and those I do get are crap (cotton, buckler, leather) and very rarely Magnificent (ditto).

I see people getting 1 or 2 Legendaries every week and lots of Mag so I figure I must be doing something wrong or be the unluckiest roller on HV.

Any advice appreciated.

imho it's only a matter of blind luck and very-good-eyesight bad luck. seriously, i can't understand that thing too, best i ever had was some crappy exqs, regardless of how many rounds i played per day...
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post Mar 28 2014, 01:06
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QUOTE(CZer @ Mar 27 2014, 18:57) *

LOTD 25/25


there's your problem, though there's not much you can do about it now. your only options now are:
a: PFUDOR T&T + schoolgirls + TTT when you get enough tokens
b: shrine everything you get and pray you get something awesome
c: invest in trophies and do option b
d: PFUDORfest, or highest difficulty you can manage apparently has good drops

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post Mar 28 2014, 01:09
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Thanks for the quick answers everyone.

QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Mar 27 2014, 23:02) *

1. need better gear. Sup unforged won't cut it in PFUDOR. And you shouldn't forge Supmax stuff.Search the freeshop for either Mag or Legendary Power of whatever, they apparently have Peerless for free too.

2. VV, Thinking Cap, IA3, Crystarium I; I would also think about increasing LotD. I'm just speculating, but I think there is some code written in the game where lower levels can get Legs/Peerless at a higher chance than high levels.


QUOTE(something @ Mar 27 2014, 23:35) *

@treesloth he's a godslayer. no freeshop for him.
replace any health potions you have with mana and remove a few points from better health pots to put in better spirit pots. at this point in the game health pots are just for show. focus only when 1 monster is left and it's stunned.
replace your storm spike shield with the flame one; a missed attack can't be countered.
your slaughter pieces are way too shitty to be useful(especially that helmet. ew.) so replace them asap. i'm sure someone in WTS has some reasonably priced power on sale that will do way better than those.
VV might work better for you since you're heavy, but AFAIK VV and IA3 give about the same survival boost. toss a coin


So off to stalking WTS then ;)
Would Exq Power (of sth) with 3PAB fine or should i wait/invest a bit more for Mag+?

Been running with 1 health potion for some time for those oh crap moments. Read somewhere in here that's recommended. Let's try with one more mana potion ;)
I haven't put any more points into imp. spirit pots, because 1 potion restores more SP than i got, so i thought it'd be fine to leave it at that.


As a side note on VV vs IA3:
As far as i understand VV is added as a percentage bonus (not base hp), so doesn't have an effect on Regen/Cure. But as SS is calculated from Max-HP one would trade SP for MP (more heals, less Spirit Shield procs?).
IA3 would save a little MP with the +10% upkeep reduction over IA2.
As recasting Protection isn't that big a deal and it's easier to recover MP, i'll probably go with VV.

On FreeShop (sorry for off-topic ;( ):
I do understand there has to be a cut off and GodSlayer is imho fine with FSM farming opening up and so on.
But ... i don't know all the rules off the top off my hat ... what happens when a player requests an item at ~lv150 and some time later gets to Godslayer?
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post Mar 28 2014, 01:09
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QUOTE(something @ Mar 28 2014, 00:06) *

there's your problem, though there's not much you can do about it now. your only options now are:
a: PFUDOR T&T + schoolgirls + TTT when you get enough tokens
d: PFUDORfest, or highest difficulty you can manage apparently has good drops

? does this mean that higher levels of LotD require high levels of play to give good drops?
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post Mar 28 2014, 01:18
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QUOTE(simrock87 @ Mar 28 2014, 00:09) *

Would Exq Power (of sth) with 3PAB fine or should i wait/invest a bit more for Mag+?

imo, a good 3PABs-exq set would be a decent (and relatively cheap) start to buy a few time, then you could start to change one piece a time to migrate to a mag set.

QUOTE(simrock87 @ Mar 28 2014, 00:09) *

Been running with 1 health potion for some time for those oh crap moments. Read somewhere in here that's recommended. Let's try with one more mana potion (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
I haven't put any more points into imp. spirit pots, because 1 potion restores more SP than i got, so i thought it'd be fine to leave it at that.

there's full cure for 'oh crap' moments (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
btw, i noted that with haste, regen, protection and SS on you pretty much never need to use full-cure

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On FreeShop (sorry for off-topic ;( ):
I do understand there has to be a cut off and GodSlayer is imho fine with FSM farming opening up and so on.
But ... i don't know all the rules off the top off my hat ... what happens when a player requests an item at ~lv150 and some time later gets to Godslayer?

i thought about inserting something about that too but the big matter is that inserting a rule also means to add one or two backdoors, and with a project this big we have to deal with various matters.
obviously we can't obly you not to play when you're next to that 'dangerous' border (even if it would be the next workaround, since this way your level would be fully visible to everyone), but every now and then we staff members troll around the shop without answering just to check, so as for now it never happened this situation without a member granting for the user (actually it never happened at all)... maybe a screen cap?

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