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I'm going to try niten and want to start with proper potencies (for these specific weapons). Been hearing mixed reviews about if overpower or fatality is better.

What do some of the more established niten users think?

Currently have
Legendary Arctic Katana of Slaughter
Butcher Lv.3 Swift Strike Lv.1 Fatality Lv.2 Overpower Lv.3

Legendary Hallowed Wakizashi of Balance
Swift Strike Lv.5 Fatality Lv.4

7531 attack base damage
216.4 % hit chance
61.2 % crit chance / +62 % damage
39.2 % attack speed bonus

I think this has moderate potencies across the board which is kind of what i was going for.

Keep Str, Dex, Agl & End at the same level (before additional stats from Equipment).

Ignore Int for now. Keep Wis about 25 points lower than Str/Dex/Agl/End.

Thanks, i will get them to an equal level.

Is there anyway to get the equipment link of the lottery prize?

I'm going to try niten and want to start with proper potencies (for these specific weapons). Been hearing mixed reviews about if overpower or fatality is better.

What do some of the more established niten users think?

Currently have
Legendary Arctic Katana of Slaughter
Butcher Lv.3 Swift Strike Lv.1 Fatality Lv.2 Overpower Lv.3

Legendary Hallowed Wakizashi of Balance
Swift Strike Lv.5 Fatality Lv.4

7531 attack base damage
216.4 % hit chance
61.2 % crit chance / +62 % damage
39.2 % attack speed bonus

I think this has moderate potencies across the board which is kind of what i was going for.

Moderate is fine for Niten. If only i could find a way to not get all those damn butchers on my waki though. Gave up after 12+ resets.

i have overpower5 on my waki +2 on my katana, and can't really say if it's effective cuz i still get chain-parried. Base +10% of PFUDOR kills a lot of the bonus too if you're playing that difficulty. I'd say Fatality is better than SS though, as it's hard to say how much benefit you get from each additional level of SS. The higher your crit chance, the more you'd want +crit damage. PM me if you want to borrow some of my stuff.

Although your light set is pretty ridiculously OP, try it w/ a power set too. Difference is you get less turns of PA due to lower action speed, but do more damage per turn, so depends on how good your set is.

Can't think you'd like to try the style w/ the sharp drop in damage compared to your estoc and/or rapier. Might see if someone has a nicely forged one to borrow first? (Mine's not, sorry)

Is there anyway to get the equipment link of the lottery prize?

no

Tell me how much it almost kills everything on the battlefield with spirit stance...

Tell me how much it almost kills everything on the battlefield with spirit stance...

you can try HeartSeeker + Imperil + PA3 + spirit stance + crit + higher base damage, then you will see that it is still not working and decide to collect OFC - manual for FUS RO DAH, welcome to my world ^^ (perhaps it works with top equipment on HellFest but still useless)

With the qualitiy or with the quantity of the gifts? Because you can get each gift, from any class. And at least until PL 300 i havent seen any difference between the different classes. If you whant high Wins and Kills, i would suggest a high PL Monster more then a special class.

well, with both actually (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
i'll try to raise PL a bit then, thanks. any suggestion for an elemental? i read in wiki that strenght of their attacks is due especially to INT (since it's a magical type), so should i inflate it rather than other stats?

Ponyfeather? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

These artifacts dropped during the 2013 Easter event. Thats what the wiki says. Cant remember my self if they where worth shrining.

Some people might want those as collectible. I wouldn't shrine them.

yeh, they actually are retired, that's the exact reason i bought them. there were also a whole bunch of average potions, so i guess someone discarded a pack of oldies. i guess i'll add to the collector section of my shop and shrine only if they don't sell after a month or so then, thanks!

Tell me how much it almost kills everything on the battlefield with spirit stance...

just FYI with OFC. first normal hit on spirit stance. then OFC on spirit stance. my base physical Damage is ~5000. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

well, with both actually (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
i'll try to raise PL a bit then, thanks. any suggestion for an elemental? i read in wiki that strenght of their attacks is due especially to INT (since it's a magical type), so should i inflate it rather than other stats?

imo, just raise their PL with whatever's on hand (or even buy crystal packs). higher PL = more battles = more gifts. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by malkatmp: Mar 27 2014, 12:45

imo, just raise their PL with whatever's on hand (or even buy crystal packs). higher PL = more battles = more gifts. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

so, common opinion is that PL weights more than class or other. many thanks.

well, with both actually (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
i'll try to raise PL a bit then, thanks. any suggestion for an elemental? i read in wiki that strenght of their attacks is due especially to INT (since it's a magical type), so should i inflate it rather than other stats?

Just be patient. This depends except for HG Materials only on Luck. Maybee you just create some additional monsters, or get at least one monster over PL 500 for the chance to get HG Materials. And i have a PL 275 Elemental, and i cant see that he got more wins than other monsters of the same PL. And i would suggest to level the stats equal. Get a stat to level 13 cost allready 10k Crystals, but get only one PL more then get a stat from 11 to 12, what cost just 6431 Crystals. So it makes in my opinion more sence to pay 13K and get a higher PL than pay 10k and got a lower PL.

Just be patient. This depends except for HG Materials only on Luck. Maybee you just create some additional monsters, or get at least one monster over PL 500 for the chance to get HG Materials. And i have a PL 275 Elemental, and i cant see that he got more wins than other monsters of the same PL. And i would suggest to level the stats equal. Get a stat to level 13 cost allready 10k Crystals, but get only one PL more then get a stat from 11 to 12, what cost just 6431 Crystals. So it makes in my opinion more sence to pay 13K and get a higher PL than pay 10k and got a lower PL.

lol, just checked:

WATSON vs SHERLOCK brought you a gift!

Received some Low-Grade Metals.
Received some Low-Grade Leather.
Received some Mid-Grade Wood.

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This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 27 2014, 14:56

lol, just checked:
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Your only monster?

Your only monster?

yep!

yep!

just curious, what's its PL?

just curious, what's its PL?

upgraded it a bit in the last few hours so it's 324 now

yep!

So, it got all of your chaos token?

So, it got all of your chaos token?

yep x2. maxed Scavenging, Fortitude and Brutality. almost maxed swiftness and accuracy, now i'll start working on parry/evade etc but every stat from now on would cost 3 tokens, so it has no zeros

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 27 2014, 15:10

yep x2. maxed Scavenging, Fortitude and Brutality. almost maxed swiftness and accuracy, now i'll start working on parry/evade etc but every stat from now on would cost 3 tokens, so it has no zeros

Nah, not necessary, but you should really create other monsters. A PL 50 monster hath the same chance to bring you a Slaughter then a PL 1000. Ok, not exacly the same, but it is possible. And for you it should be a lot easier to get another monster, than to get one to a decent PL.

Moderate is fine for Niten. If only i could find a way to not get all those damn butchers on my waki though. Gave up after 12+ resets.

i have overpower5 on my waki +2 on my katana, and can't really say if it's effective cuz i still get chain-parried. Base +10% of PFUDOR kills a lot of the bonus too if you're playing that difficulty. I'd say Fatality is better than SS though, as it's hard to say how much benefit you get from each additional level of SS. The higher your crit chance, the more you'd want +crit damage. PM me if you want to borrow some of my stuff.

Although your light set is pretty ridiculously OP, try it w/ a power set too. Difference is you get less turns of PA due to lower action speed, but do more damage per turn, so depends on how good your set is.

Can't think you'd like to try the style w/ the sharp drop in damage compared to your estoc and/or rapier. Might see if someone has a nicely forged one to borrow first? (Mine's not, sorry)
no

Considering damage between sets, my estoc is only 1.2k behind this vanilla niten set. I'm wondering if i forge it, what would happen (should be over any DW set damage).
You are right about the power armor.. I'm trolling the WTS section every day for some good slaughter equips.

yep x2. maxed Scavenging, Fortitude and Brutality. almost maxed swiftness and accuracy, now i'll start working on parry/evade etc but every stat from now on would cost 3 tokens, so it has no zeros

I think the most profitable way to use monsters is to crystal them up to plvl 750 (when/if you can) and only invest chaos tokens in double gift.
For example, a lvl 750 monster with double gift gives about 4-6 HG mats daily (along with possible bindings/phazon/etc).

Nah, not necessary, but you should really create other monsters. A PL 50 monster hath the same chance to bring you a Slaughter then a PL 1000. Ok, not exacly the same, but it is possible. And for you it should be a lot easier to get another monster, than to get one to a decent PL.

second this. i hv a swamp of PL25 guys just to bring me bindings (just no High-Grade materials). generally, 1 good binding (fox/owl/ox/etc) from them everyweek. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

though, higher PL guys can participate in more battles and potentially bring you more stuff.

I think the most profitable way to use monsters is to crystal them up to plvl 750 (when/if you can) and only invest chaos tokens in double gift.
For example, a lvl 750 monster with double gift gives about 4-6 HG mats daily (along with possible bindings/phazon/etc).

it took me 5(?!) crystal packs to upgrade one of my guys to PL560. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

so i guess i'm looking at another 5-10? crystal packs to get him to 750?

This post has been edited by malkatmp: Mar 27 2014, 15:46