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How do you grind proficiencies in this game? Just go into anywhere on normal and just keep doing the action you want to get proficiencies on repeatedly?

basically yes. for armors it doesn't really matter, it's an automatic process, but as for the others you have to kee trigger the same actions, yeh

I actually shrined around 500 low trophies and got a peerless lol..

But what was the ROI?

How do you grind proficiencies in this game? Just go into anywhere on normal and just keep doing the action you want to get proficiencies on repeatedly?

well, for mages ..go into any (highest possible difficult for ya) & grind ^^ (just for better junck) ..let one lowbob Mob alive & spam for deprecating / supportiv <- for this ya dont need max difficult ! ..elemental works like for melee !

for, melee.. take a mace & do IWBTH if ya cant do PFUDOR (or do any lower difficulty) ... ya need a shitload of time & pots but the more hits the more prof !

I actually shrined around 500 low trophies and got a peerless lol..

-.- for real ? you are a lucky **************** (guy) ^^ congratulation !

This post has been edited by mutsdhr: Mar 23 2014, 03:59

Experts,

where do I find the effective formulas for evaluating a staff? The contribution of spell damage, magic damage and so on.

I was thinking of leaving the staff of Surtr (fire spell damage) for a staff of Destruction (magic damage). The rest of clothes is Surtr. Would be this a good move?

I actually shrined around 500 low trophies and got a peerless lol..

Just shine ~500

2014-03-23 03:57 +199461 Sold 493 equipment pieces.

No luck (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) .

Experts,

where do I find the effective formulas for evaluating a staff? The contribution of spell damage, magic damage and so on.

I was thinking of leaving the staff of Surtr (fire spell damage) for a staff of Destruction (magic damage). The rest of clothes is Surtr. Would be this a good move?

depends. usually MDB>EDB (according to the wiki anyway), but if you want to be absolutely sure you could try using the magic scores script. it should tell you if the staff you want to pick up is worth it.

personally, i wouldn't unless it was a firey redwood staff of destruction

Just shine ~500

No luck (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) .

tbh, it's pretty good. generally, i get 350-400/SG trophy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

i'm considering just selling all of them instead.

I'll buy em. How much?

Never mind, found it.

This post has been edited by habbababba31: Mar 23 2014, 10:53

depends. usually MDB>EDB (according to the wiki anyway), but if you want to be absolutely sure you could try using the magic scores script. it should tell you if the staff you want to pick up is worth it.

Thanks for the answer. Without wanting to go too off topic, is there somewhere a quick tutorial on how to install/remove/use scripts?

personally, i wouldn't unless it was a firey redwood staff of destruction

May I ask why exactly?

This post has been edited by zotnios: Mar 23 2014, 12:02

Thanks for the answer. Without wanting to go too off topic, is there somewhere a quick tutorial on how to install/remove/use scripts?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Scripts_%26_Tools

May I ask why exactly?

It really depends on your MDB/EDB, but in general, EDB staffs give a better boost in a single element while MDB staffs give a smaller boost in all types of magical damage output.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Scripts_%26_Tools

I already visited that Wiki page, but the sole line that gives a clue is:

For Firefox the use of Greasemonkey or Scriptish may be necessary.

No one here created a tutorial about scripts?

It really depends on your MDB/EDB, but in general, EDB staffs give a better boost in a single element while MDB staffs give a smaller boost in all types of magical damage output.

Ok this seems very reasonable, I would ask which of the two scales up better with player level, proficiency and Item World.

I already visited that Wiki page, but the sole line that gives a clue is:

For Firefox the use of Greasemonkey or Scriptish may be necessary.

No one here created a tutorial about scripts?

[addons.mozilla.org] https://addons.mozilla.org/zh-tw/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/

Then every time you click on those javascripts (or drag those into firefox), greasemonkey will ask if you want to apply the script.

I already visited that Wiki page, but the sole line that gives a clue is:

For Firefox the use of Greasemonkey or Scriptish may be necessary.

No one here created a tutorial about scripts?

In Firefox, install the Greasemonkey add-on (edit: see above). Then when you click on a script link you'll be prompted to install it; if you're prompted to save it instead, do so and then drag it into the Firefox window. You can use Firefox's native Add-ons Manager to remove scripts.

In Chromium and derivatives, go to Tools, then Extensions, and check the "Developer mode" option in the top-right. Save scripts to your hard drive and then drag them into the Extensions page. You can also remove scripts from this page. By the way, a Chromium-based browser is recommended for HV.

Some scripts add an overlay into HV where you can configure them, and some you'll have to find them in your browser's user profile directory and edit them directly with a text editor.

This post has been edited by n125: Mar 23 2014, 13:16

Ok this seems very reasonable, I would ask which of the two scales up better with player level, proficiency and Item World.

MDB scales faster than EDB, but usually you get more EDB from phases armor so it's hard to say one's strictly better than the other one.

Proficiency is another factor which can be quite difficult to factor in. You get better anti-resist (which helps to increase your damage) and cast speed/mana cost but you'll use part of your EDB if you replace a phase with a cotton. Usually it's 'get as much character's prof as possible, think about the prof armor when you get sufficient amount of damage output (i.e. forged equips).

Item world gives you bonus on equips. It depends on the weapon/armor so it's independent of this MDB/EDB factor.
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Item_World

MDB scales faster than EDB, but usually you get more EDB from phases armor so it's hard to say one's strictly better than the other one.

Proficiency is another factor which can be quite difficult to factor in. You get better anti-resist (which helps to increase your damage) and cast speed/mana cost but you'll use part of your EDB if you replace a phase with a cotton. Usually it's 'get as much character's prof as possible, think about the prof armor when you get sufficient amount of damage output (i.e. forged equips).

Item world gives you bonus on equips. It depends on the weapon/armor so it's independent of this MDB/EDB factor.
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Item_World

Thank you again for your answer.

It seems there are no clothes that improve magical damage, but only proficiency (cotton ones) and spell damage (phase ones). So, I think I will stick with phase ones.

From what you say, MDB scales faster than EDB, if I got it correct, it would be better a Destruction staff instead of a Surtr one, even if the user something said the opposite.

Honestly, I do not think being so sophisticated right now (yet, due to my low level) to create a battle strategy that could show the differences between the two approaches (MDB vs EDB) - I was thinking about the future. what I do is:

spell - spell - spell - cure - spell - spell - spell - cure ... and recharge mana with potions, until the end.

I wasted all my savings and I have bought these staves to check them:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=122de5b341
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=950b7f6c27
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9d55c6bd6f
My main being:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a81df8cb3e

and I tested them in Arena but I am not able to see differences. Even if my primary is toyed a bit in Item World.

The Superior one of Destruction performs very well for being only a Superior, and it seems the Focus one is slightly weaker.

The Superior one of Destruction performs very well for being only a Superior, and it seems the Focus one is slightly weaker.

that Superior on got a decent roll on Magic Damage. on my end, the Superior Destruction one has ~50% more than the other 3 staff. i guess that's why people like destruction prefixes. though, i've heard people like matching staffs(?!)

though, imo, i'd gather a decent (but not crazy expensive) set & start grinding the proficiencies/credits/etc. from personal experience, constantly, switching stuff is a very bad money drain. try to beef up Pack Rat first.

This post has been edited by malkatmp: Mar 23 2014, 19:11

From what you say, MDB scales faster than EDB, if I got it correct, it would be better a Destruction staff instead of a Surtr one, even if the user something said the opposite.

Clothes with 'Radiant' prefix will give you a slight MDB bonus, though it's rare to find one.
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Prefixes#Chances

MDB scales faster than EDB, but as I said, it really depends on the actual number. The formula's something like MDB * (1 + EDB) * ..., so they're different.

Just use the magic score, as it gives the (almost) correct number of what you should get considering all the MDB/EDB bonuses. And it's pointless testing different types of staffs (willow vs oak vs redwood) as they have different bonuses.

Focus's good to start with....though you should use a redwood one for more EDB or MDB.