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post Mar 22 2014, 10:09
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QUOTE(Fuu @ Mar 22 2014, 09:53) *

This is my status
[http://i.imgur.com/ooWp4Jf.jpg[

What do I need to make my character stronger? It is so hard to fight in IWTBH or PRU mode (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I m using an ethereal mace and shade armor.
Should I have to change fighting style?


Here are my weapon and armors
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c7e8b78686
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4a679e9c1a
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0b9a130423
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=713b0b0efd
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0675c63443
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0b168e18b8

Should I have to change my fighting styles?
I saw some posts about 1H at mid level above

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post Mar 22 2014, 10:09
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You think I would be better off switching to one of these?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1e3d171f57

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2c0d92e284

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4420d4a274

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post Mar 22 2014, 10:10
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 22 2014, 15:50) *

Cos you guys always stress about mana conservation, so I assume that mana would be a big problem in SG (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Mana conservation should be one of the factor deciding how fast you can go, which is important. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(Beryl @ Mar 22 2014, 16:09) *

You think I would be better off switching to one of these?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1e3d171f57


This one's damage output isn't that great, but you should try that first to see if you like the lack of defense (i.e. being hit more often) for better offense.

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post Mar 22 2014, 10:16
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 22 2014, 10:50) *

You're doing it with Wind or Holy? Did you have to forge your armor to do DwD, or just a forged staff is enough?


Dark but holy would be slightly better, usually take the better set you have.

You can do it with any kind of stuff but it'll be bothersome with lot of ET and improved drain. With more forging, you'll go faster up to the point you shouldn't need to ET anymore but this should be really expensive.

Edit: aether shard + featherweight and eventually voidseeker if you have to ET will help you greatly in your first tries.

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post Mar 22 2014, 10:24
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QUOTE(Beryl @ Mar 22 2014, 01:09) *


How about trading equipments? This Mace for the first one on your list?
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post Mar 22 2014, 10:40
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 22 2014, 16:16) *

I'm curious, has any mage attempted PFUDOR SG? Is it even possible for mages?


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Why do you think holy is so expensive? Mage > DW > anything else for SGs, time wise. some people take less than 30min for DwD.


QUOTE(Beryl @ Mar 22 2014, 17:09) *

You think I would be better off switching to one of these?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1e3d171f57

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I would go with the estoc.
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post Mar 22 2014, 10:50
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Mar 22 2014, 01:16) *

Dark but holy would be slightly better, usually take the better set you have.

You can do it with any kind of stuff but it'll be bothersome with lot of ET and improved drain. With more forging, you'll go faster up to the point you shouldn't need to ET anymore but this should be really expensive.

Edit: aether shard + featherweight and eventually voidseeker if you have to ET will help you greatly in your first tries.


Can you do PFUDOR DwD using wind without needing to ET/Focus though? I'm curious if an elemental mage can ever get to the point where that's possible. I can do the first two schoolgirl marathons on PFUDOR without needing to ET/Focus, but if I try that on DwD I'll run out of potions.

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post Mar 22 2014, 11:04
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Mar 22 2014, 19:16) *

Dark but holy would be slightly better, usually take the better set you have.

You can do it with any kind of stuff but it'll be bothersome with lot of ET and improved drain. With more forging, you'll go faster up to the point you shouldn't need to ET anymore but this should be really expensive.

Edit: aether shard + featherweight and eventually voidseeker if you have to ET will help you greatly in your first tries.


Well as soon as I could find a good staff, forge it, then train my AP high enough to duo play mage with melee (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

but thanks a lot for the tip, especially the aether bit (I kinda forget that it even exists)

EDIT: on the subject of maging, between Katalox of Destruction and Oak of Heimdal, what would be better for holy maging?

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post Mar 22 2014, 11:53
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QUOTE(n125 @ Mar 22 2014, 11:50) *

Can you do PFUDOR DwD using wind without needing to ET/Focus though? I'm curious if an elemental mage can ever get to the point where that's possible. I can do the first two schoolgirl marathons on PFUDOR without needing to ET/Focus, but if I try that on DwD I'll run out of potions.


Dunno i don't want to try 'cause it takes more hits to kill a sg with elemental but i'd say yes, yes we can (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) .
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post Mar 22 2014, 14:50
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http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1de560cda5
Is that worth anything? Mage stuff is so confusing because random pieces go for so much ;___;
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post Mar 22 2014, 16:10
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QUOTE(Fuu @ Mar 22 2014, 04:09) *


not really. 1H is the safest way to play at IWBTH/PFUDOR but it might not be to your liking. i say try them all and see what works for you.
if you plan on sticking with 2H shade and want to optimize damage output then you should either:

a: IW your mace and pray you end up with a useful strike. reforge it first if you can; overpower is useless for mace
b: consider switching to estoc. its not as safe as a mace but the damage output is significantly higher
c: find a better ethereal mace and IW that one instead
d: upgrade all your armors for ones that have higher ADB rolls (specifically your breastplate and helmet since they're both missing STR)
e: ignore this post entirely and go 1H power or DW shade

oh, and bring your end and agi up to where your dex is. try not to keep them too far apart.

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post Mar 22 2014, 17:50
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just curious, how does shrine trophies works?

in the wiki it said, it has a Loot Quality Bonus of +1000? +1250? etc.

mostly, i'm getting <Superior stuff from SG trophies. why are people actually spending that much credit buying them? (especially, noodly?) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Mar 22 2014, 18:13
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 22 2014, 16:50) *

just curious, how does shrine trophies works?

in the wiki it said, it has a Loot Quality Bonus of +1000? +1250? etc.

mostly, i'm getting <Superior stuff from SG trophies. why are people actually spending that much credit buying them? (especially, noodly?) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

i second that
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post Mar 22 2014, 19:37
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 23 2014, 00:50) *

just curious, how does shrine trophies works?

in the wiki it said, it has a Loot Quality Bonus of +1000? +1250? etc.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2497601
QUOTE(Tenboro @ Mar 13 2013, 06:43) *

It's a secret.


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mostly, i'm getting <Superior stuff from SG trophies. why are people actually spending that much credit buying them? (especially, noodly?) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Shrining SG trophies give you equips that have similar worth (including bazzar price + salvaging them from forge) with selling them directly to other person at WTB. (from 5000+ cases)
Though I don't have enough data on Noodly Appendage yet. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Mar 22 2014, 19:51
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post Mar 22 2014, 21:39
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Mar 22 2014, 10:37) *

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2497601
Edit:

Shrining SG trophies give you equips that have similar worth (including bazzar price + salvaging them from forge) with selling them directly to other person at WTB. (from 5000+ cases)
Though I don't have enough data on Noodly Appendage yet. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Out of the 5000+ shrining of SG trophies, how many were worth significantly more than the trophy, bazaar, salvaging etc? There has to be some worthwhile return for carrying on...
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post Mar 22 2014, 21:45
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we should ask yakamoz or teana...
however i'm curious myself, the only time i shrined a noodly i earned a sup non-prefixed leather with 2PABs (yeh, i remember it very well -.-" ): it sounded to me like i used money to fire a cigarette and conluded that for me the best solution is to sell them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 22 2014, 21:57
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Mar 22 2014, 15:39) *

Out of the 5000+ shrining of SG trophies, how many were worth significantly more than the trophy, bazaar, salvaging etc? There has to be some worthwhile return for carrying on...


I recently shrined 4k SG trophies and did not receive anything worth selling. I got few HG mats from salvaging the high pxp exquisites.

The sale price of those equipments is well below the cost in WTB.


QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 22 2014, 11:50) *

just curious, how does shrine trophies works?

in the wiki it said, it has a Loot Quality Bonus of +1000? +1250? etc.

mostly, i'm getting <Superior stuff from SG trophies. why are people actually spending that much credit buying them? (especially, noodly?) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


Generally, its a money sink, but there can be good things come out of it. Now that you can get a peerless from shrines, its worth it even more to gamble.
The cost of trophies is nothing to a lot of players, so it only makes sense to gamble for a leg/peerless item.
Basically, its best to sell all of your trophies unless you either don't need the income, or want to try for a peerless.
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post Mar 22 2014, 23:06
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Thanks Jenga, 4,000 trophies - that's 2,000,000 credits @ 500c per trophy - just chump change for you was it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

What little trophies I've shrined, I am in the minus. Meaning, none of the gear I'd received was worth the price of the trophies in the WTB.
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post Mar 22 2014, 23:57
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that actually makes sense, i thought it was for that reason...
what about upper trophies jenga? ever shrined it?
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