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So what're the more popular builds around right now?

And their pros and cons?

This post has been edited by Xurilden: Mar 21 2014, 09:59

So what're the more popular builds around right now?

And their pros and cons?

Low level, DW melee. (high damage and good defense at low level/proficiency)
Mid level, 1H melee. (reasonable damage and very high defense)
High level, mage. (extreme high damage)

So mages are the more widely used build at higher levels i assume?

So what're the more popular builds around right now?

And their pros and cons?

For end-game,
Melee: Rapier + Force Shield + Power Slaughter: high survivability with decent clearing. Pro: very easy to clear PFUDOR, even without forging. Cons: need OFC and forging to have better clear speed, rapier and power slaughter are expensive, though force shield demand has cooled down somewhat.

Mage: Elemental Mage in general has very fast clearing, in exchange for squishy defense and heavy use of spirit/mana. Pro: clear extremely fast, certain elemental phases (Fire, Cold) are cheaper to get. Cons: need a fuckload of forging to play PFUDOR and rely on focus/drain to sustain itself in long run.

Low level, DW melee. (high damage and good defense at low level/proficiency)
Mid level, 1H melee. (reasonable damage and very high defense)
High level, mage. (extreme high damage)

also, imo, DW melee (or even 2h) light armor, is pretty cheap.
1H is great, but you're probably looking at 100k credits. imo, <lv200 1H is not fun.
mage is expensive.

ps. there's a free shop for <lv200 people in WTS, you should visit them. iirc, they are overflowing with Superior/Exquisite stuff.

For end-game,
Melee: Rapier + Force Shield + Power Slaughter: high survivability with decent clearing. Pro: very easy to clear PFUDOR, even without forging. Cons: need OFC and forging to have better clear speed, rapier and power slaughter are expensive, though force shield demand has cooled down somewhat.

Mage: Elemental Mage in general has very fast clearing, in exchange for squishy defense and heavy use of spirit/mana. Pro: clear extremely fast, certain elemental phases (Fire, Cold) are cheaper to get. Cons: need a fuckload of forging to play PFUDOR and rely on focus/drain to sustain itself in long run.

Was kinda hoping that Niten was good, coz it seemed cool. >< I practice Kendo irl, and i'm a fan of dual wielding(unfortunately its banned in competitions now), so i was kinda considering Niten.

Melee seems to suit my playstyle more, coz i'm a bit lazy take care of survivability.

But i would still like some opinions on Niten build from high leveled Niten Ichiryuu players. (or non-Niten Ichiryuu players who are very familiar with the in-s and out-s of Niten)

also, imo, DW melee (or even 2h) light armor, is pretty cheap.
1H is great, but you're probably looking at 100k credits. imo, <lv200 1H is not fun.
mage is expensive.

ps. there's a free shop for <lv200 people in WTS, you should visit them. iirc, they are overflowing with Superior/Exquisite stuff.

Thanks for the info. Will visit the WTS.

Was kinda hoping that Niten was good, coz it seemed cool. >< I practice Kendo irl, and i'm a fan of dual wielding(unfortunately its banned in competitions now), so i was kinda considering Niten.

cool but - hey, that's a game bro, nothing you learnt about from kendo would be useful here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But i would still like some opinions on Niten build from high leveled Niten Ichiryuu players. (or non-Niten Ichiryuu players who are very familiar with the in-s and out-s of Niten)

i used to use it as my only style for quite a few levels. now i still own a niten set but don't use it anymore to be honest. i gues i'll try to IW both pieces but more for show than for actual need (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
niten is both a 2H and a DW style, so you have both domino strike (the chance to hit multiple targets, though limited to 4 mobs instead of 6) and offhand strike (the chance to hit a single target two times); special skill is only one, available from the start and inflicts penetrated armor and stun on five targets.
aftermaths are that you gain no prof from using it (so it's better to use only when your prof are high enough to go without further needed increments) and the only process you can inflict is bleeding wound, that's surely useful if the mob has very few HP left (you can take care of other target letting it to die by itself) but useless otherway.

there's a free shop for <lv200 people in WTS, you should visit them. iirc, they are overflowing with Superior/Exquisite stuff.

yeh, we are really overflowing with sup weapons and sup/exq plain armor, everyone keeps looking for the same things :\

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 21 2014, 11:23

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Never tried xD.

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pros:
ninten: none
mage: death machine aka face-melting

cons:
ninten: dies if poked much, weapons have no usefull procs
mage: dies if poked

Ver. 2.0

pros:
ninten: AoE DMG with reasonable defense (evade, parry, resistance) ?
mage: death machine

cons:
ninten: dies if poked much, weapons have no usefull procs, horrible prof grinding
mage: dies if poked AND you need to be rich enough to wipe you ass with credits (50 mlns is a good starter), otherwise forget about this style, even more horrible than ninten staff. prof grinding >_>

This post has been edited by HNTI: Mar 21 2014, 11:26

cool but - hey, that's a game bro, nothing you learnt about from kendo would be useful here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Whelp, i didn't say that anything i learnt irl about kendo can be applied in a text based game connected to a hentai site. xD

i used to use it as my only style for quite a few levels. now i still own a niten set but don't use it anymore to be honest. i gues i'll try to IW both pieces but more for show than for actual need (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
niten is both a 2H and a DW style, so you have both domino strike (the chance to hit multiple targets, though limited to 4 mobs instead of 6) and offhand strike (the chance to hit a single target two times); special skill is only one, available from the start and inflicts penetrated armor and stun on five targets.
aftermaths are that you gain no prof from using it (so it's better to use only when your prof are high enough to go without further needed increments) and the only process you can inflict is bleeding wound, that's surely useful if the mob has very few HP left (you can take care of other target letting it to die by itself) but useless otherway.

Seems kinda lack luster for a build that needs so much grinding. I really thought niten would be one of the best builds after grinding prof given that it requires so much effort to grind it to the maximum potential

Kinda unfortunate that the proc range for main hand is reduced from 6 to 4

What build are you using now btw?

yeh, we are really overflowing with sup weapons and sup/exq plain armor, everyone keeps looking for the same things :\

Well, given that phase are best for mages, shade are best for dw/2h/niten and power is best for sword & board, i would assume that no one would take the normal cotton/leather/plate unless its legendary.

Just noticed that i need lv 30 to request anything, haha.

This post has been edited by Xurilden: Mar 21 2014, 11:42

Source ?

HentaiVerse 0.77, Free* Fluffle Puff DLC Included (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Just noticed that i need lv 30 to request anything, haha.

It's a day or two of playing.

Seems kinda lack luster for a build that needs so much grinding. I really thought niten would be one of the best builds after grinding prof given that it requires so much effort to grind it to the maximum potential

i never said niten isn't good, i only said that it'd be better to use it at high prof, and by that level you'd surely find something better. at medium levels it would be really great to use every now and then, but i can assure you spreading it will create a certain gap in your profs that you'll *need* to fill sooner or later. however, there are more high level players using it than what it could appear from this topic, so it's safe to assume it'd be useful if you are fed up with grinding prof

What build are you using now btw?

full shade 2H and full power 1H+shield, after grinding a few prof (120 btw) the latter is way beyond my expectations tbh. i used also a full shade DW but left it behind because i don't have so much AP and don't want to waste credits on training them

Well, given that phase are best for mages, shade are best for dw/2h/niten and power is best for sword & board, i would assume that no one would take the normal cotton/leather/plate unless its legendary.

Just noticed that i need lv 30 to request anything, haha.

that makes sense, i'd be the first to go for shade and power, if i still could so i can't really complain too much. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) however that's not absolutely true, just to make an example, shade has 0 mitigation against piercing, which can be granted via leather armors and one could decide to prefer block chance (read shielding plates) over power, that's also a matter of tastes...
btw, you really know quite a few things given you're here for two days, not bad...

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 21 2014, 12:01

And then your luck runs out and you go weeks without finding anything remotely nice. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Yep, you with the leg power slaughter in your sig (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

And despite getting so many legs in the last 3 months, I still haven't gotten anything remotely close to the leg fenrir I got with 18/25 LoTD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Mar 21 2014, 12:10

i never said niten isn't good, i only said that it'd be better to use it at high prof, and by that level you'd surely find something better. at medium levels it would be really great to use every now and then.

Haha, don't worry, i'm not saying that you said that niten was any good.

I was just expressing my opinion for niten, that it seems kinda lack luster for the amount of effort you have to put in (and i hope it gets a buff so i can go ahead and still use it in the future.)

full shade 2H and full power 1H+shield, after grinding a few prof (120 btw) the latter is way beyond my expectations tbh. i used also a full shade DW but left it behind because i don't have so much AP and don't want to waste credits on training them

Latter = 1h+shield i assume, just to avoid me misunderstanding. What do you mean by it being beyond your expectation? Stronger? or weaker than you expected? And how so?

that makes sense, i'd be the first to go for shade and power, if i still could so i can't really complain too much. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) however that's not absolutely true, just to make an example, shade has 0 mitigation against piercing, which can be granted via leather armors and one could decide to prefer block chance (read shielding plates) over power, that's also a matter of tastes...
btw, you really know quite a few things given you're here for two days, not bad...

Ic, i'll have to look into shielding plates

Well, if you go around forums lurking and research the wiki, you'd be suprised at the amount of info you can get in a day. xD

And having people like you in the forums to answer my questions certainly helps.

Doing research on what i want to do later on in the game so i don't regret my decisions (and so i can decide on what i want to ask for from the free shops xD)

This post has been edited by Xurilden: Mar 21 2014, 12:23

Doing research on what i want to do later on in the game so i don't regret my decisions (and so i can decide on what i want to ask for from the free shops xD)

TBH, just pick some equips and start grinding. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Patches tend to change HV's landscape; the best you can do is to grind for level so even when a patch hits you, you'll still have a chance for re-adjustment.

Don't worry about 'what should be done at level 300'. Think about 'how should I start'.
- grab some free equips from the free shops. 1H/DW/2H all have their pros and cons. There won't be that much difference at your level, and you can always try something else with all those free equips. (Just give those equips back to the free shops when you don't need them).
- learn about the abilities, forget about the stats allocation (just keep everything on average).
- learn to use scripts to help yourself. HV stat (and minor), mousemelee, keybind, spellspam, base stats comparison...are all very good.
- learn what NOT to throw into the bazaar at your level (exquisite/magnificent/legendary/peerless).
- back to this thread when you meet obstacles and make adjustments.

This post has been edited by varst: Mar 21 2014, 13:14

Latter = 1h+shield i assume, just to avoid me misunderstanding. What do you mean by it being beyond your expectation? Stronger? or weaker than you expected? And how so?

1H+shield+power heavy, yep. i knew many people said it was good, but to be able to clear an IWTBH 25-rounds IW (some rounds even with 3 'in memory of' mobs) using only 1 spirit and 3 mana potions (all greater) is like... gorgeous, considering the fact that i've slotted less than half abilities for heavy armor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
one strong point is that with 100+ prof you can counter-attack and stun 2 mobs a time, so with a bit of luck you can paralyze half of the spanned ones within a couple of turns (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I guess I should ask while it's floating around, but is it worthwhile to devote time into reassigning points so a melee account can turn into mage?

My proficiencies are pretty much 0 and I don't have any cloth or staffs, but apparently it's much more effective than melee from what I hear.

yeh, we are really overflowing with sup weapons and sup/exq plain armor, everyone keeps looking for the same things :\

you guys should start hyping up Estoc/Longsword + Leather/Plate. imo, it's a fun cheap easy build. seriously, you can get a good Mag lv Leather/Plate for the price of an okay Exquisite Power/Shade. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I guess I should ask while it's floating around, but is it worthwhile to devote time into reassigning points so a melee account can turn into mage?

My proficiencies are pretty much 0 and I don't have any cloth or staffs, but apparently it's much more effective than melee from what I hear.

you can, but imo, mage is expensive. if you've the money to spend, go ahead. a piece of High-Grade Cloth is 20k credits, CP is another ~200k, etc.

This post has been edited by malkatmp: Mar 21 2014, 17:21

Hi, I am playing DW style, here is my specs
LV: 200
ATK:211 (+90 +3)
DEX:227 (+185 +2)
AGI:230 (+211 +1)
END:200 (+63 +1)
INT:100 (+0 +3)
WIS:200 (+30 +0)

Duelwield (void/void) (both hand weapons got LV 10 IW)
79% offhand strike

2986 atk base
153.5% hit chance
29.1 crit chance / +66% dmg

50.4% phys migration
43.7% magic migration
36.2% evade chance
62.2% parry chance
55.3% resist chance

As the higher lvl I get, the stronger monsters are and I got difficult with how to build. My initial goal was increase AGI and DEX to increase parry and evade chance. Can someone give me some advice.

Also, does increasing int make my support magic stronger (cure, regen)

This post has been edited by aukxn: Mar 21 2014, 17:28

Can merciful blow insta kill a Ring of Blood monster below 25% health?