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Mar 13 2014, 07:02
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Jeanne d'Arc
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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 13 2014, 03:59)  The resist from leather can make the magic attack most likely do not trigger spirit shield. But the normal attack in Hellfest 900+ round give me some problem.
your own fault if you have problems at this late rounds using a axe with no parry also leather with low dex rolls what also gives you a low amount of parry, your shild in your signatur will do atleast. the slower you kill the more time you give mops to rape you as allready pointd out from holy demon. QUOTE kill slower = monsters use more special attacks = drains more MP/SP = actually less defense (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) prot power gives me since i am lvl 330 until now the best performance with what ever 1hand/2hand/dual pfudor arenas/festing and i didn have to bother for not having enough dmg nor pmi. for one who still refuse to stick to axe or longsword with leather you cant be helped then. nobody push you to buy mag/leg equip at the first place. with your faceroll playstyle that you show me watching animes aside, you should be able to make 1mio in 3days from your lvl point of view atleast (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) so pls stop to put yourself so poor and lazy for guys wo try to advice others and not confuse them to buy stuff ending up to complain at the end that it not work how they get told that it would be so easy this way, seriously sigh (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Mar 13 2014, 07:23
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walkleft
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Does dark/holy imperil abilities grant dark/holy proficiency on use of imperil? I suppose not, but I need clarification.
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Mar 13 2014, 07:36
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holy_demon
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Teresa of the Faint Smile @ Mar 13 2014, 16:02)  for one who still refuse to stick to axe or longsword with leather you cant be helped then. nobody push you to buy mag/leg equip at the first place. with your faceroll playstyle that you show me watching animes aside, you should be able to make 1mio in 3days from your lvl point of view atleast (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Nah, I'd have to properly forge/IW them up to have a chance to outdo my forged/Iwed 1H power set (if they don't, what's the point to even switching?), and I'd have to spend time figuring out the strategy and timing to use theem efficiently. Altogether that would cost me a few mil. I'd rather try my hand on mage if I have that much to throw around (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) seeing as all the top earners of this game are mages. Also I seriously doubt that axe or longsword can clear PFUDOR SGs.... QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 13 2014, 14:26)  though, a guy in WTB claimed he somehow managed a 30hath/hr farm. it's hard to compete with that. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) He must be referring to his H@H income ... Otherwise he must be able to clear Hellfest in 1 hour :/ This post has been edited by holy_demon: Mar 13 2014, 07:41
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Mar 13 2014, 07:42
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varst
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QUOTE(walkleft @ Mar 13 2014, 13:23)  Does dark/holy imperil abilities grant dark/holy proficiency on use of imperil? I suppose not, but I need clarification.
Probably not, it's still a deprecating spell.
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Mar 13 2014, 09:07
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Lement
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 13 2014, 07:36)  He must be referring to his H@H income ... Otherwise he must be able to clear Hellfest in 1 hour :/
Or be a mage. 1000 rounds in 3600 seconds = 0.28 RPS. Actually, that is closer to European melee's speed than mage's speed.... This post has been edited by Lement: Mar 13 2014, 09:07
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Mar 13 2014, 09:45
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(Lement @ Mar 13 2014, 18:07)  Or be a mage. 1000 rounds in 3600 seconds = 0.28 RPS. Actually, that is closer to European melee's speed than mage's speed....
So EU mage's speed is even faster? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) 30 mins to clear 1000 rounds? This post has been edited by holy_demon: Mar 13 2014, 09:57
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Mar 13 2014, 12:58
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Colman
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 13 2014, 15:45)  So EU mage's speed is even faster? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) 30 mins to clear 1000 rounds? 30 mins to clear 1000 rounds is not a human speed IMO.
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Mar 13 2014, 14:13
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 12 2014, 21:45)  So EU mage's speed is even faster? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) 30 mins to clear 1000 rounds? FUUUUUUUU. What kind of mage score would I need for that lol. It takes me more like 5 hours to clear that many rounds on hellfest. QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 12 2014, 19:36)  Altogether that would cost me a few mil. I'd rather try my hand on mage if I have that much to throw around (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) seeing as all the top earners of this game are mages. Or maybe you need to be a top earner to be a successful mage. The cost of mage gear and mats has gone up significantly, though a single buyer trying to forge one item potentially can increase the prices of the whole market *face palm*. This post has been edited by EsotericSatire: Mar 13 2014, 14:17
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Mar 13 2014, 15:33
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Mar 13 2014, 23:13)  FUUUUUUUU. What kind of mage score would I need for that lol. It takes me more like 5 hours to clear that many rounds on hellfest. Or maybe you need to be a top earner to be a successful mage. The cost of mage gear and mats has gone up significantly, though a single buyer trying to forge one item potentially can increase the prices of the whole market *face palm*.
Do you have to use focus or drain or something? Cos even with my shitty ping of 450ms and my being melee, I can do it in 3 hours (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) <shameless advertisement> Maybe give SpellSpam a try? It has auto spell rotation (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by holy_demon: Mar 13 2014, 15:34
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Mar 13 2014, 15:48
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EsotericSatire
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 13 2014, 03:33)  Do you have to use focus or drain or something? Cos even with my shitty ping of 450ms and my being melee, I can do it in 3 hours (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) <shameless advertisement> Maybe give SpellSpam a try? It has auto spell rotation (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I might have had a connection problem at the time but not sure. It took me 10 mins to do the first 75 rounds just then with my newer gear. Not sure how that compares. That still probably puts me at the 2-3hour mark.
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Mar 13 2014, 15:50
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malkatmp
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though, it's still scary if someone can clear 1000 rds in 1 hr. 3.6 seconds/round. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) i'm leaning towards a H@H farm that somehow can generate 30Haths/hr than someone clearing that much Hellfest without any botting. This post has been edited by malkatmp: Mar 13 2014, 15:51
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Mar 13 2014, 16:03
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Mar 14 2014, 00:48)  I might have had a connection problem at the time but not sure. It took me 10 mins to do the first 75 rounds just then with my newer gear. Not sure how that compares. That still probably puts me at the 2-3hour mark.
Same time with me. So it's probably 3h :/
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Mar 13 2014, 16:44
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Lement
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 13 2014, 15:50)  though, it's still scary if someone can clear 1000 rds in 1 hr. 3.6 seconds/round. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) i'm leaning towards a H@H farm that somehow can generate 30Haths/hr than someone clearing that much Hellfest without any botting. HTTP used to be at 0.66 RPS @ IWBTH. Of course, pre-cooldown and range limitations, it really wasn't that hard to surpass 1 RPS (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (on normal). Anyway, we're talking of Hell rounds here. 0.28 RPS at hell is easily within forging melee in europe. 3.6 seconds round is more than 14 turns per hellfest rounds, and they sure don't take that long as long as you don't use something that doesn't have the AoE or capability to deal with it. This post has been edited by Lement: Mar 13 2014, 16:46
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Mar 13 2014, 18:14
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(Lement @ Mar 13 2014, 16:44)  HTTP used to be at 0.66 RPS @ IWBTH. Of course, pre-cooldown and range limitations, it really wasn't that hard to surpass 1 RPS (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (on normal). Anyway, we're talking of Hell rounds here. 0.28 RPS at hell is easily within forging melee in europe. 3.6 seconds round is more than 14 turns per hellfest rounds, and they sure don't take that long as long as you don't use something that doesn't have the AoE or capability to deal with it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) though, why europe? the servers set up in europe? also, just got this Exquisite Demonic Estoc of Slaughter, so... how's the current estoc market now? i've seen a few similar Exq estocs in WTS from a range of 20-150k. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Mar 13 2014, 18:26
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treesloth
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QUOTE(Lement @ Mar 13 2014, 16:07)  Or be a mage. 1000 rounds in 3600 seconds = 0.28 RPS. Actually, that is closer to European melee's speed than mage's speed....
QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 14 2014, 01:14)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) though, why europe? the servers set up in europe? yes, they're in Germany or Netherlands somewhere. It is a dream to melee in Europe. 18ms ping, or something. When there were no turn limits, you could melee incredibly fast. My guess is Tenboro wanted to even the playing field for non-Euro players. Still, it's safer and probably as fast or faster to melee than mage (in Europe at least).
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Mar 13 2014, 18:37
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Mar 13 2014, 17:26)  yes, they're in Germany or Netherlands somewhere. It is a dream to melee in Europe. 18ms ping, or something.
sure not in Italy (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Mar 13 2014, 21:04
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Lement
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Mar 13 2014, 20:54)  1K GF rounds per hour seems decent... in IWBTH (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) . For a 2h melee. It is just that they use 1H. These poor, poor, felllows (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Okay, joking aside, I assume the original poster meant 30hath per hour with 24 hours per day. Even with best gears possible, that's a lot of grinding per day. This post has been edited by Lement: Mar 13 2014, 21:07
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Mar 13 2014, 21:46
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danixxx
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QUOTE(Lement @ Mar 13 2014, 22:04)  Okay, joking aside, I assume the original poster meant 30hath per hour with 24 hours per day.
Oh didn't see what you were talking about, this guy has CODE Current adopt-a-server active slots: 57 It's written in his sig. This post has been edited by danixxx: Mar 13 2014, 21:46
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Mar 13 2014, 22:01
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treesloth
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QUOTE(danixxx @ Mar 14 2014, 04:46)  Oh didn't see what you were talking about, this guy has CODE Current adopt-a-server active slots: 57 It's written in his sig. How is 30hath/hr possible with 57 slots? 57 * 7hath/day = 399hath/day ==> divide by 24hr = 16.5hath/hr. Unless he is counting the GPs? But that would mean ~18000K GP/day?? I don't think that's right..... Someone care to enlighten me? This post has been edited by treesloth16: Mar 13 2014, 22:03
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