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post Mar 11 2014, 09:16
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QUOTE(ConfusedPerv @ Mar 11 2014, 08:59) *

i dont even use shadow veil at all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
the only thing that makes me wanted IA-3 is only to put SoL there,
i hate to keep casting it over and over,it consumes mana,just for a fail-safe spell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

btw i already put my current set in my signature,
so fail compared to you and everyone's else (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


imo, you need more damage. so you can kill things faster, hence lower mana consumption.

ie full power set, rapier slaughter.
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post Mar 11 2014, 09:24
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QUOTE(ConfusedPerv @ Mar 11 2014, 17:59) *

i dont even use shadow veil at all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
the only thing that makes me wanted IA-3 is only to put SoL there,
i hate to keep casting it over and over,it consumes mana,just for a fail-safe spell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

btw i already put my current set in my signature,
so fail compared to you and everyone's else (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


With that much shield armor, you won't even need SoL. Heck you can even try skipping on protection if it helps you save mana on SG run (the trick of SG is to minimize your MP/SP upkeep as much as possible - I even use defend in some "safe" situation so that my SP isn't drained as fast)

Also, if you don't have OFC, then get it. 1H need that to do long run fast without exhausting their SP for perma spirit stance (If you're not using spirit stance, then it's too slow, putting a strain on your MP instead)

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post Mar 11 2014, 09:35
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 11 2014, 14:16) *

imo, you need more damage. so you can kill things faster, hence lower mana consumption.

ie full power set, rapier slaughter.

that is the problem,
magnificent [something] rapier of slaughter is never cheap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 11 2014, 14:24) *

With that much shield armor, you won't even need SoL. Heck you can even try skipping on protection if it helps you save mana on SG run.

Also, if you don't have OFC, then get it. 1H need that to do long run fast without exhausting their SP for perma spirit stance (If you're not using spirit stance, then it's too slow, putting a strain on your MP instead)

yep,i've been thinking that i need OFC too for quicker clear speed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
so the priorities would be :
+ %block rate -> slaughters set -> OFC
right?

and recently i tried start using spirit stance in T&T arena from round 1,it stays permanently until i finished the arena,
but how about the last 3 arenas?going spirit stance from round 1 too? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Mar 11 2014, 09:38
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QUOTE(ConfusedPerv @ Mar 11 2014, 18:35) *

that is the problem,
magnificent [something] rapier of slaughter is never cheap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
yep,i've been thinking that i need OFC too for quicker clear speed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
so the priorities would be :
+ %block rate -> slaughters set -> OFC
right?

and recently i tried start using spirit stance in T&T arena from round 1,it stays permanently until i finished the arena,
but how about the last 3 arenas?going spirit stance from round 1 too? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


Nah it's the reverse OFC -> slaughter -> block.

You want to kill faster. You already have more than enough defense. From my experience, forging for block is only need for GF and PFUDOR DwD. Everything else can be done with full slaughter + unforged exq rapier + unforged force shield

Your spirit wouldn't last long enough for the last 3 arena (Going by my clearing time, End of days is 50% longer than T&T, Eternal darkness 100% and DwD 200% longer) You need to spam weapon skill a lot to make use of all these overflowing overcharge (OFC is more effective use of OC for situation with 2+ boss, or with a bunch of mobs).

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post Mar 11 2014, 09:55
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QUOTE(ConfusedPerv @ Mar 11 2014, 09:35) *

that is the problem,
magnificent [something] rapier of slaughter is never cheap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
yep,i've been thinking that i need OFC too for quicker clear speed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
so the priorities would be :
+ %block rate -> slaughters set -> OFC
right?

and recently i tried start using spirit stance in T&T arena from round 1,it stays permanently until i finished the arena,
but how about the last 3 arenas?going spirit stance from round 1 too? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


imo, you've VERY VERY VERY high survivability. i'd assume you've over 65%+ block & 60%+ parry? you can try switching some survivability for damage. shielding to Mag power protection/warding/balance is a lot cheaper. (20-150k each). or a decent Exq/Mag "elemental" Rapier Slaughter can also do wonders.

after that, the OFC seems like a "reasonable" cheaper upgrade. ~1.3million that stays with you forever. a good Rapier or Shield cost ~$1mil already. a full Power Slaughter set seems to be in the 2-5million range (300-1mil+ each). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

though, the problem with OFC is there's not a lot of ponies out there and it takes time (i'd assume weeks) to get it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

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post Mar 11 2014, 09:58
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 11 2014, 14:38) *

Nah it's the reverse OFC -> slaughter -> block.

You want to kill faster. You already have more than enough defense. From my experience, forging for block is only need for GF and PFUDOR DwD. Everything else can be done with full slaughter + unforged exq rapier + unforged force shield

Your spirit wouldn't last long enough for the last 3 arena (Going by my clearing time, End of days is 50% longer than T&T, Eternal darkness 100% and DwD 200% longer) You need to spam weapon skill a lot to make use of all these overflowing overcharge (OFC is more effective use of OC for situation with 2+ boss, or with a bunch of mobs).


how many cast OFC you usually do to kill pfudor schoolgirls? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
(curious question lol)

and awesome advice,thanks a lot!
now i just need to saving up funds to buy enough ponies (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 11 2014, 14:55) *

imo, you've VERY VERY VERY high survivability. i'd assume you've over 65%+ block & 60%+ parry? you can try switching some survivability for damage. shielding to Mag power protection/warding/balance is a lot cheaper. (20-150k each). or a decent Exq/Mag "elemental" Rapier Slaughter can also do wonders.

after that, the OFC seems like a "reasonable" cheaper upgrade. ~1.3million that stays with you forever. a good Rapier or Shield cost ~$1mil already. a full Power Slaughter set seems to be in the 2-5million range (300-1mil+ each). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

though, the problem with OFC is not a lot of ponies out there. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

my %block not that great,of course (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
(IMG:[puu.sh] http://puu.sh/7qbXr.png)
and i think i'll start my ponies hunt after you're done.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Mar 11 2014, 10:10
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QUOTE(ConfusedPerv @ Mar 11 2014, 18:58) *

how many cast OFC you usually do to kill pfudor schoolgirls? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
(curious question lol)

and awesome advice,thanks a lot!
now i just need to saving up funds to buy enough ponies (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
my %block not that great,of course (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
(IMG:[puu.sh] http://puu.sh/7qbXr.png)
and i think i'll start my ponies hunt after you're done.. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


1 OFC every 2 rounds with 1SG, 1 OFC every round with 2 SG, 2 OFC every round with 3 SG (then spamming Shield Bash -> Vital Strike when OFC is on CD)

You have more block chance than me lol

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post Mar 11 2014, 11:49
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IWing is always so funny :-) just love getting 3 overpowers at last 3 levels of IW

as if chances are screwed up more the more you IW it
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post Mar 11 2014, 15:18
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Does anyone happen to know exactly how Silence is unlocked? The wiki lists level 110? and proficiency 40? and I have 51 depreciating proficiency already. I have Blind, which needed 30 proficiency. I've scoured the forum posts already, and not one single post seems to give a definitive answer other than "get your proficiency higher" and it's getting really annoying to stall progress to wait for Silence. Also, yes, it is base proficiency of 50, none of my equips give any depreciating bonus at all. A whole ton of posts say "Once you get silence at 110..." or something along those lines and I've passed that already. What exactly am I missing that is apparently so obvious that everyone that needs Silence either knows how to get it or already had it, that seems to be completely undocumented with no instruction whatsoever?

If you think you have reach the required level and proficiency. Try switching your equipment set. It can refresh something and make new skill appear.
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post Mar 11 2014, 21:53
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suddennly - first legendary drop (from RE probably), - http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=fba6a55ddc is it not bad?
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post Mar 11 2014, 22:14
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Mar 11 2014, 22:53) *

suddennly - first legendary drop (from RE probably), - http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=fba6a55ddc is it not bad?


My deepest condolences.
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post Mar 11 2014, 22:40
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Mar 11 2014, 20:53) *

suddennly - first legendary drop (from RE probably), - http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=fba6a55ddc is it not bad?


I'd be happy with that if I found one since I'm using heavy plate. However I don't think you'll be able to sell it at a -very- high price (marked the "very", it's still legendary after all) since plate isn't all the rage after all. Even if the mitigations are pretty good (looked a bit at the wiki)...
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post Mar 11 2014, 23:09
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equir comparer says phys mit is 'L' - does that mean L max?

btw, I have no idea what "very" or not very high is, so how much? 1m? 200k? 50k?
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post Mar 11 2014, 23:36
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Yes, PMI on this one is Lmax (mind you, it's Lmax -0.01 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)) ^^

no idea either for the price, i'd say around 1M maybe, since it has an elemental prefix and lmax PMI, Lmax piercing mitigation too...
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post Mar 11 2014, 23:48
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just saying, it's a plate armor just while everybody keeps going with power, you can't expect too much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

btw, i'm not playing so much, but when were you able to raise all those levels? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 12 2014, 00:10
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I'm not playing much either, just doing daily arenas from trio&tree and descending ones on normal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I got 211 lvl of adept learner (always had my henjutsu training busy) + thinking cap hathperk (got a week ago or so)

and I do my arenas at evening (max stamina) so I also get 2x exp bonus for 80+ stamina

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btw, cuirass seems like an overkill for defense with its mitigations, no?
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 11 2014, 22:48) *

just saying, it's a plate armor just while everybody keeps going with power, you can't expect too much (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yes but still legendary with good stats, you can't underprice it either. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
And some power armors go for 10M each, 1M is still low, even for plate. ^^"

QUOTE(Owyn @ Mar 11 2014, 23:10) *

btw, cuirass seems like an overkill for defense with its mitigations, no?

Not really, it helps raising survivability on PFUDOR and others high difficulties but you can still expect some damages (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Mar 12 2014, 01:08
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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 11 2014, 15:18) *

If you think you have reach the required level and proficiency. Try switching your equipment set. It can refresh something and make new skill appear.


Pretty sure I did, but nothing happened. However, I can't test that now because I do suddenly have it, right when I reached 120. Didn't have it at 119. Find it pretty odd since 110 seems to be the number people refer to. Maybe it's 120 now, maybe my skills went wonky. For anyone else, though, swapping sets could be something worth trying. Thank you, though.
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post Mar 12 2014, 01:14
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hi i require your expertise on the following issue

how do you feel about leather equip?
I was thinking about mixing 1 or 2 agile leather of deflection to boost my attack speed and piercing protection in addition to 3 shade leather...of the shadowdancer.
Is it worth to get higher quality deflection items or is the piercing protection not as valuable as the attack dmg?

also which 2h weapon would fit best a mace or a longsword
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post Mar 12 2014, 01:42
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How much should a mage forge their armor?

Is forging to 25 the norm? After that the returns are exponentially less.
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