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post Mar 8 2014, 11:41
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 8 2014, 17:36) *

Since the problem is getting complicated, let's start with an ideal situation. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


I'm going to drop it since casting HS in spirit stance seems to be efficient enough. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 8 2014, 17:36) *

At the moment, I'm not even sure if those 2 values 0.59 or 0.75 are even correct. I'm trying to make a formula for a derived_cost calculated from raw_cost (gotten from wiki) and it's going into recursive zone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


You can't unless you actually consider the duration of the spells and if it's overlapping active spells. Otherwise I can simply drive the saved mana cost to infinity by casting everything again and again. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

0.59 and 0.75 should be correct since it's only HS interacting with itself, so there's no overlapping/gaping problem. Unlike haste/HS which you'll need to consider more factors.

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post Mar 8 2014, 11:56
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QUOTE(varst @ Mar 8 2014, 20:41) *

0.59 and 0.75 should be correct since it's only HS interacting with itself, so there's no overlapping/gaping problem. Unlike haste/HS which you'll need to consider more factors.


no, the reasoning behind that 1.5 value sounds looks very suspicious to me, and that value should be 2 while under spirit stance (which would making casting spirit-stanced haste->haste as good as IA2 haste, for some reason)

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post Mar 8 2014, 12:29
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 8 2014, 17:56) *

no, the reasoning behind that 1.5 value sounds looks very suspicious to me, and that value should be 2 while under spirit stance (which would making casting spirit-stanced haste->haste as good as IA2 haste, for some reason)


I wouldn't mind more explanation on the 'suspicious' claim, and spell costs apply multiplicatively so it's not 2.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Spell_Costs

P.S. That's why I'd like to drop it, the difference seems to be so minimal....

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post Mar 8 2014, 14:53
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Is blind worth using?
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post Mar 8 2014, 15:14
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Mar 8 2014, 00:30) *

From my experience, SV is a waste of mana for 1H Heavy even on PFUDORfest.


*shrug* belt and suspenders.

I like the extra safety feeling.

QUOTE(C2A2V @ Mar 8 2014, 04:53) *

Is blind worth using?


It's a bit like a stronger version of weaken in some ways... Personally, I worry more about special skills, so Silence (and sometimes Sleep) is more important.

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post Mar 8 2014, 15:18
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Is blind worth using?


wiki page said it is not worthy to even use it
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post Mar 8 2014, 16:33
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 8 2014, 11:03) *
I just finished IWBTH DwD with 2 mana, 3 spirit left. I came to the conclusion that SV is a waste of mana on 1H unless you're on round 200 of GF.

Gonna try DwD PFUDOR without casting SV tomorrow...

May I ask how long that took you? I can't imagine sitting through DwD while the AAG cable is still out of commission. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Mar 8 2014, 16:51
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Mar 9 2014, 01:33) *

May I ask how long that took you? I can't imagine sitting through DwD while the AAG cable is still out of commission. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


~1h30m
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post Mar 8 2014, 17:01
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That's rather really quick. Damn, I remember PF DwD used to take me days. Haven't tried it again ever since I got the title though.

Did you use 1H skills or simply facerolled through it?
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post Mar 8 2014, 17:20
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Mar 9 2014, 02:01) *

That's rather really quick. Damn, I remember PF DwD used to take me days. Haven't tried it again ever since I got the title though.

Did you use 1H skills or simply facerolled through it?


Yes, OFC and Shield Bash -> Vital Strike, but they're part of my facerolling combo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

PFUDOR ED only takes me 45 mins, so pretty much 45 mins (aka half the run) was spent slugging it out with 3 SG in the last 40 rounds (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

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post Mar 8 2014, 17:22
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Oh right, I forgot that you have OFC. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 8 2014, 17:23
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Mar 9 2014, 02:22) *

Oh right, I forgot that you have OFC. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Best investment I ever made in this game (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Mar 8 2014, 17:25
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I am assuming the health amount of a monster of my same level is more or less equal to mine, is this correct?


No, it took a simple scan to see they are much stronger than the average, probably 10x times.
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post Mar 8 2014, 17:40
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Best investment I ever made in this game (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


but it seems like no one are selling them. or maybe my asking price is too low.

also, just curious, is these 2 items worth anything? maybe lower 5 digits?
Magnificent Cobalt Plate Greaves of Warding is Plate things with non-protection worth nothing?
Exquisite Power Helmet of Balance Everything is decent, but shitty attack dmg roll.

seriously, i feel like the game is constantly trolling me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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post Mar 8 2014, 17:47
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Mar 8 2014, 23:40) *

but it seems like no one are selling them. or maybe my asking price is too low.

also, just curious, is these 2 items worth anything? maybe lower 5 digits?
Magnificent Cobalt Plate Greaves of Warding is Plate things with non-protection worth nothing?
Exquisite Power Helmet of Balance Everything is decent, but shitty attack dmg roll.

seriously, i feel like the game is constantly trolling me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

The helmet is rather good IMO.
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post Mar 8 2014, 17:51
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Mar 7 2014, 22:54) *

Go to the Free Shop and get a couple things from there... preferably 1 or 2 things a week. There are a few shops that give stuff out... don't go overboard, of course, and be polite! Some will even give out potions for free, which is nice.


Ok. I have noticed here there are several shops.

QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 8 2014, 03:01) *

Change the cotton to phase of a single element one by one and you can feel the different.


Ok. It seems phase clothes are very rare.

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Since the beginning I saw choosing weapons is a real pain. I need to unequip the current used weapon, go to the item shop, and hover the mouse back and forth to check the small numbers inside the description box. This, if in the meantime the weapon does not disappear from the shop. Maybe there is another way, but in the end, now I watch only the primary stats and the elemental spells.

I seem to understand I should build a clothes wardrobe all directed to a single element (I like fire - just because it is the first spell I got).
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post Mar 8 2014, 18:42
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QUOTE(zotnios @ Mar 8 2014, 10:51) *

Ok. I have noticed here there are several shops.
Ok. It seems phase clothes are very rare.

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Since the beginning I saw choosing weapons is a real pain. I need to unequip the current used weapon, go to the item shop, and hover the mouse back and forth to check the small numbers inside the description box. This, if in the meantime the weapon does not disappear from the shop. Maybe there is another way, but in the end, now I watch only the primary stats and the elemental spells.

I seem to understand I should build a clothes wardrobe all directed to a single element (I like fire - just because it is the first spell I got).


as a rule of thumb, if you find something inconvenient about the game, there's probably a script to make it easier.

QUOTE(Gasior @ Feb 6 2014, 08:34) *

HV Equipment Comparison 0.6.3.1

Attached File  HVEquipCompare_0.6.3.1.zip ( 19.31k ) Number of downloads: 154

[userscripts.org] HV Equipment Comparison 0.6.3.1

- Updated to wiki data 02.02.2014
-- Shielding, Reinforced, Agile and Charged prefix data stay old
-- "Shade of the Arcanist" are considered as post-0.78


instructions to use it are here

also let me know if you want this Exquisite Redwood Staff of Surtr

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post Mar 8 2014, 19:15
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QUOTE(Teresa of the Faint Smile @ Mar 8 2014, 04:24) *
teach me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
It's easy. Axe in main hand, balance shortsword in off hand to get as much off hand strike as possible. More than 90% is overkill and you get that from the bazaar. Put two infusions on each weapon, and void the axe for extra hit chance. This works on normal and hard. Above that, too many monsters start taking more than one hit to kill and you'll have to watch your life bar.

You can clear the entire first page of arenas before the infusions run out if the site isn't lagging.

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post Mar 8 2014, 19:37
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QUOTE(something @ Mar 8 2014, 17:42) *

also let me know if you want this Exquisite Redwood Staff of Surtr


I have understood the "Surtr" things help the "fire" capability. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The link seems to open a generic page, maybe I can get the occasion to ask how to post equipment stats here, as I have seen done a couple of times.

Anyway how much does this thing cost?

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post Mar 8 2014, 19:48
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QUOTE(zotnios @ Mar 8 2014, 12:37) *

I have understood the "Surtr" things help the "fire" capability. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The link seems to open a generic page, maybe I can get the occasion to ask how to post equipment stats here, as I have seen done a couple of times.

Anyway how much does this thing cost?


my mistake: Exquisite Redwood Staff of Surtr

and it will cost you the unreasonably high price of 10 credits. i'll CoD you in a sec

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