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Nope, that should be random like the MP bar and action speed.

Derp. My ages old strategy has just been fundamentally fucked up. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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BTW, some monsters can have 4x HP of the others with higher PMI/MMI

Yep that's right. Though, for a round of monsters with similar HP pools, I would always go for the ones who are close to use their SP skills first anyway. Not letting monsters use their strongest skills (BIUBIUBIU (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ) should be prioritized I feel. If I can't kill all of them in time, and the danger of getting skill-shot is prominent, Silence is a good bailout spell.


That, and try to learn the monster name. After some random fuck hit your Spirit Shield for a few thousand points of overflown damage, you should feel hateful enough to remember its name for eternity. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Should I buy super tricky weapons in some user shop? Unfortunately I have not the money by far.

The short answer would be 'level up first'. With better level, you're going to get more arenas, unlock more abilities, and have more credits to spend on equips.

Then you can start thinking about forging and IWing.

It'd be nice if you post your equips and stats so we can check if there can be any immediate improvements.

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BTW, some monsters can have 4x HP of the others with higher PMI/MMI

I like this modification. Though I just spam spells till they all die. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

After some random fuck hit your Spirit Shield for a few thousand points of overflown damage, you should feel hateful enough to remember its name for eternity. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I just spam spells till they all die. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


I must be the laziest player in the world!

This post has been edited by varst: Mar 7 2014, 21:01

It'd be nice if you post your equips and stats so we can check if there can be any immediate improvements.

Here it is the quickest way to do that:

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How do you people manage to really do IW for gear? It feels to me that I need to run a huge amount of days of IW to actually get a level and this is at like levels 3 of equipment. (This is on normal since I pretty much actually can't do higher ones.)

And more often than not the result is garbage, so what gives?

1 21 Fibre29 hits you for 233 piercing damage.
1 20 Rarafew hits you for 820 slashing damage.
1 19 Wagan hits you for 279 piercing damage.
1 18 Fankriss hits you for 366 piercing damage.
1 17 Serafuimu hits you for 345 piercing damage.
1 16 Bigmouth crits you for 641 slashing damage.
1 15 Rarafew hits you for 930 slashing damage.

This is on Nightmare in an exquisite item's IW on round 21 with buffs up. It doesn't seem like much but that's 3600 damage in one turn. I only have 8200 life, so if I were to go to a higher difficulty things like this can end up being deadly. What am I supposed to do against this?

Also it gets much worse when I get even more monsters in the fight.

This post has been edited by blueeyedcolossus: Mar 7 2014, 21:51

Days?

I must be out of date, at half your level I did 2 normal IWs in the time tea is brewed. Did you switch equipment sets so you don't have any abilities or what?

In any case, currently I believe the tactics are to do them on IWBTH typically, whether you are melee or mage(at least level 310 required)

This post has been edited by Lement: Mar 7 2014, 22:21

Ok, if their strenght is not due to the Spirit, it must be due to their defenses.

I am assuming the health amount of a monster of my same level is more or less equal to mine, is this correct?

So, they must have excellent defense. I would have it too, but right now I do not see how. I can get better equipment, but there is not so much in the store after exquisite weapon, often exquisite are inferior to superior weapons. I do not see how much difference amongst weapons that could improve my stats so quickly.

If I level up, monsters too level up in battles so it does not solve the problem. I tried improve my weapons by Item World, but they improve too slowly respect the experience gained (that causes leveling up).

Should I buy super tricky weapons in some user shop? Unfortunately I have not the money by far.

Go to the Free Shop and get a couple things from there... preferably 1 or 2 things a week. There are a few shops that give stuff out... don't go overboard, of course, and be polite! Some will even give out potions for free, which is nice.

And remember, the higher the level of difficulty you select, the tougher the monsters are even if their levels don't change.

How do you people manage to really do IW for gear?[...]This is on normal

If you dual wield you can kill every monster in one hit. Just piano the keys and hope you get 4 turns per second the entire time.

Days?

I must be out of date, at half your level I did 2 normal IWs in the time tea is brewed. Did you switch equipment sets so you don't have any abilities or what?

In any case, currently I believe the tactics are to do them on IWBTH typically, whether you are melee or mage(at least level 310 required)

IW is easier for melee. I started facerolling BT IW at 260 with 2H + 3power/3plate and struggling a little with IWBTH IW. When I switched to 1H at 300, PFU IW was a walk in park, even with low 1H prof and balance rapier. Granted, PFUDOR back then was easier due to the speed bug >.>

1 21 Fibre29 hits you for 233 piercing damage.
1 20 Rarafew hits you for 820 slashing damage.
1 19 Wagan hits you for 279 piercing damage.
1 18 Fankriss hits you for 366 piercing damage.
1 17 Serafuimu hits you for 345 piercing damage.
1 16 Bigmouth crits you for 641 slashing damage.
1 15 Rarafew hits you for 930 slashing damage.

you really shouldn't be getting hit that much. can't remember your playstyle so i'll just go over everything. someone tell me if i missed something.
1H = get a better shield. pack spirit potions.
DW = get as much evade and parry as you can then abuse frenzied blows
2H = get a strong level 10 mace/estoc. swing swing swing
mage = get as much evade and damage as you can and abuse imperil/spells.

for all styles = haste, SV, regen, protection + your choice of spikes(all are pretty good imo). if you have IA, haste > SV > protection(or SS/SoL for higher difficulty). heartseeker/arcane focus whenever you get the chance.

oh, and try leveling up shit weapons so you get used to it

This post has been edited by something: Mar 8 2014, 01:29

you really shouldn't be getting hit that much. can't remember your playstyle so i'll just go over everything. someone tell me if i missed something.
1H = get a better shield. pack spirit potions.
DW = get as much evade and parry as you can then abuse frenzied blows
2H = get a strong level 10 mace/estoc. swing swing swing
mage = get as much evade and damage as you can and abuse imperil/spells.

for all styles = haste, SV, protection + your choice of spikes(all are pretty good imo). if you have IA, haste > SV > protection(or SS/SoL for higher difficulty). heartseeker/arcane focus whenever you get the chance.

oh, and try leveling up shit weapons so you get used to it

As 1H, I don't use SV during the "easy" part of a long run (SG or GF) to save MP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I keep SS because some combination of monsters can onehit if they for some reason are not sunned, doesn't get parried or blocked, and use spells all at the same time.

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Mar 8 2014, 01:30

Listen people, blueeyedcolossus is a Mage. The suggestions you are all making are for melee.

Listen people, blueeyedcolossus is a Mage. The suggestions you are all making are for melee.

I recall telling him once that if Haste+SS+SV+Protection don't do the trick, use Defend. That goes for any style...

And if that still doesn't do the trick, gets/forge better gear. In mage case, get more evade/agility

Or play 1H

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Mar 8 2014, 03:08

Listen people, blueeyedcolossus is a Mage. The suggestions you are all making are for melee.

This does not prevent him from putting two weapons on in another slot and still killing everything in one hit.

This does not prevent him from putting two weapons on in another slot and still killing everything in one hit.

Come again, have you found a way to change from maging to melee during combat?

Listen people, blueeyedcolossus is a Mage. The suggestions you are all making are for melee.

Use weaken?

Here it is the quickest way to do that:

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Change the cotton to phase of a single element one by one and you can feel the different.

Come again, have you found a way to change from maging to melee during combat?

1H (elemental weapon) + force shield + full phase + 6 stats even.
Not that bad in long run.

This post has been edited by Colman: Mar 8 2014, 04:09

Change the cotton to phase of a single element one by one and you can feel the different.
1H (elemental weapon) + force shield + full phase + 6 stats even.
Not that bad in long run.

Oho, now that's a concrete suggestion. Should the weapon's element be in sync with the Phase or does that matter?

@blueeyedcolossus, do you want to try this set up Colman has suggested? I can lend you a levelled rapier and the Force Shield that dropped a few days ago. I am curious how well this set up will fare against higher difficulty mobs.

Oho, now that's a concrete suggestion. Should the weapon's element be in sync with the Phase or does that matter?

@blueeyedcolossus, do you want to try this set up Colman has suggested? I can lend you a levelled rapier and the Force Shield that dropped a few days ago. I am curious how well this set up will fare against higher difficulty mobs.

The weapon should match, but doesn't have to. A Firey weapon will give extra fire spell damage, thus working well with armor that gives extra fire/elemental damage.

How do you people manage to really do IW for gear? It feels to me that I need to run a huge amount of days of IW to actually get a level and this is at like levels 3 of equipment. (This is on normal since I pretty much actually can't do higher ones.)

And more often than not the result is garbage, so what gives?

1 21 Fibre29 hits you for 233 piercing damage.
1 20 Rarafew hits you for 820 slashing damage.
1 19 Wagan hits you for 279 piercing damage.
1 18 Fankriss hits you for 366 piercing damage.
1 17 Serafuimu hits you for 345 piercing damage.
1 16 Bigmouth crits you for 641 slashing damage.
1 15 Rarafew hits you for 930 slashing damage.

This is on Nightmare in an exquisite item's IW on round 21 with buffs up. It doesn't seem like much but that's 3600 damage in one turn. I only have 8200 life, so if I were to go to a higher difficulty things like this can end up being deadly. What am I supposed to do against this?

Also it gets much worse when I get even more monsters in the fight.

maybe it's just me, but i didn't even touch IW & Grindfest until 10 lvs ago. mainly, because most of my stuff are pretty bad and not worth IWing and it seems to me that IW & Grindfest lowers drop rows. (ie you'll get more crap). i'd rather spend the time in Arenas to get more credits/drops.

ps. pick One main element and slowly switch your gear towards that. so you'll end up with 1 full set. don't worry about IW until latter. you might even try to save up for the cheaper stuff first (ie 10-50k range/piece) then slowly move up again 1 piece at a time. it might take a while, but it's worth it.

I just finished IWBTH DwD with 2 mana, 3 spirit left. I came to the conclusion that SV is a waste of mana on 1H unless you're on round 200 of GF.

Gonna try DwD PFUDOR without casting SV tomorrow...

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Mar 8 2014, 06:04