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Feb 22 2014, 19:14
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Lement
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Um. The ADB is smidgen over supmax for armor. If it was head, it'd would be solid Legendary ADB. PMI is ex. everything else is average, though, but outside of PABs not really considered.
Good ADB on power isn't something that often happens. An Exq Eth estoc of slaughter with smidgen over supmax ADB wouldn't go for just 500k or 200k either.
Actually, here's an offer: If you can find a better power of slaughter piece than went for less in the last 4 months in an Auction - I'll give you 5 HG mats of your choice. First come, first serve.
For the purposes of this conversation, offensive power is weighted at 4x as much as much as defense for better - this is my rough estimation for how highly offense is valued on power.
This post has been edited by Lement: Feb 22 2014, 19:16
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Feb 22 2014, 20:19
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zen_zen
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QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 22 2014, 06:07)  I didn't do the maths. I tried it and the result is very bad. My leather set is great for defense, but killing slow. My shade set is not good but still give me reasonable protection and attack speed. Mix them and I got poor defense and attack. FYI, here are the links for my leather set. headbodyhandslegsfeetsand here is what I use to mix headbodyhandslegsfeetsSo what are you currently using, the Leather or the Shade? Other than the Leggings, the rest of that Shade set is under par. I don't bother with doing the math either but I would compare the important stats of the Leather I wore at the time vs the Shade I was interested in and if the sacrifice of defence seemed greater than the added offence that I would get from the Shade, I would pass by. The Shade set you've used in the mix is inferior in all aspects when compared to your Leather set. Truthfully speaking, I would not have considered any of the Shades in your set for purchase except for the Leggings, even at the start of my migration to Shade, almost 100 levels ago. The only Leather that I have left from that period is this one and I replaced it with this Shade Leggings. I lost on average about 10 points per PAB, lost quite a bit on the Mana tank but the gain of 130+ points in ADB plus a significant gain in Evade was well worth the sacrifice of the Leather's PMI and the credits. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Feb 22 2014, 20:22
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Some Stuffer
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What's the superior shade set? Is fleet really the best? I still haven't quite figured out the buff from fleet, but I assume it's evade chance.
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Feb 22 2014, 20:39
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rancidmeat
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Feb 22 2014, 10:58)  I"ve seen "Endurance" blue buff on IW'ed weapoins along with swift strike and fatality but it's not on the IW wiki - wth is that? example: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f0a855764aPrimary stat potencies were removed in Version 0.77. They'll remain on gear that was IW'd before 0.77 hit but it will no longer roll on new potencies.
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Feb 22 2014, 21:00
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Feb 22 2014, 14:43)  imo, it's worth it. you'll still have your shadow veil/spirit shield/protection/regen/etc.
guess i'll give it a try then, the matter would be to find a breastplate decent enough to replace my current one... QUOTE(malkatmp @ Feb 22 2014, 14:43)  on the other hand, i just got this drop ( Exquisite Shielding Plate Sabatons of Deflection), what is this shielding stuff? i thought they're no longer dropped, no? Shield (like this Fine Shield Sabatons of Deflection) doesn't drop anymore and was a T2 when it still dropped. shielding is only a plate (thus T1) which add block chance, and that actually drops nowadays, even though apart from bazaar price i can't really find a difference between the two... btw, is also battlecaster a retired suffix? i can't really understand from wiki, it says yes but still treates it as an actual drop QUOTE(Some Stuffer @ Feb 22 2014, 19:22)  What's the superior shade set? Is fleet really the best? I still haven't quite figured out the buff from fleet, but I assume it's evade chance.
yes, the strong point of Fleet is actually the evade chance; other suffixes have other peculiarities, as reported in wiki. which road to travel is your choice though (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Feb 22 2014, 21:48
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Feb 22 2014, 21:51
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Colman
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QUOTE(Some Stuffer @ Feb 23 2014, 02:22)  What's the superior shade set? Is fleet really the best? I still haven't quite figured out the buff from fleet, but I assume it's evade chance.
Fleet + evade. Low to mid level player mostly go for shade of fleet due to their bonus evade and relatively low cost.
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Feb 22 2014, 22:17
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 22 2014, 20:51)  Fleet + evade. Low to mid level player mostly go for shade of fleet due to their bonus evade and relatively low cost.
while high level go for shadowdancer because they got money (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) btw, i didn't note this great gap between SD and fleet and also crit bonus isn't all that big, am i wrong?
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Feb 22 2014, 22:21
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iDShaDoW
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 22 2014, 14:00)  btw, is also battlecaster a retired suffix? i can't really understand from wiki, it says yes but still treates it as an actual drop
Battlecaster is just for 1H/2H/Shields. I've gotten a few battlecaster drops myself (junk mainly) and will keep a couple pieces to use for spamming to up my spell proficiencies; deprecating is only ~80 right now.
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Feb 22 2014, 22:27
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(iDShaDoW @ Feb 22 2014, 21:21)  Battlecaster is just for 1H/2H/Shields. I've gotten a few battlecaster drops myself (junk mainly) and will keep a couple pieces to use for spamming to up my spell proficiencies; deprecating is only ~80 right now.
yeh, i know it, i also used (and still own) some of them... what i meant is that in bazaar or auctions is relatively common to see those item, yet still wiki says here that they are retired, and there still describes their features with all the other available drops furthermore, since i run a shop i wanted to know if they are still in market or only collector items, as much usable they can be (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Feb 22 2014, 22:29
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Feb 22 2014, 22:41
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animeai
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 22 2014, 23:27)  yeh, i know it, i also used (and still own) some of them... what i meant is that in bazaar or auctions is relatively common to see those item, yet still wiki says here that they are retired, and there still describes their features with all the other available drops furthermore, since i run a shop i wanted to know if they are still in market or only collector items, as much usable they can be (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) From the wiki: ""of the Hulk", "of the Battlecaster", "of the Shielding Aura", "of the Priestess" (Armor Suffixes)" Note it states "Armor Suffixes". Armor "of the battlecaster" is retired, but you will still get 1H weapons, 2H weapons and shields with the suffix.
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Feb 22 2014, 22:47
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Lement
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 22 2014, 22:17)  while high level go for shadowdancer because they got money (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) btw, i didn't note this great gap between SD and fleet and also crit bonus isn't all that big, am i wrong? Even the gap between suffixes isn't really that huge. Third best Shade BP I've seen is Negation. Of course, there aren't three rich light playes, so it is not worth much.
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Feb 22 2014, 22:52
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(animeai @ Feb 22 2014, 21:41)  From the wiki: ""of the Hulk", "of the Battlecaster", "of the Shielding Aura", "of the Priestess" (Armor Suffixes)"
Note it states "Armor Suffixes". Armor "of the battlecaster" is retired, but you will still get 1H weapons, 2H weapons and shields with the suffix.
doh! you're right, thanks!
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Feb 22 2014, 23:56
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Drakewyn
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Feb 22 2014, 10:19)  The only Leather that I have left from that period is this one and I replaced it with this Shade Leggings. I lost on average about 10 points per PAB, lost quite a bit on the Mana tank but the gain of 130+ points in ADB plus a significant gain in Evade was well worth the sacrifice of the Leather's PMI and the credits. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) While you might have lost a bunch of your Mana Tank, I bet your Interference went down some... especially if you got any Arcanist pieces.
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Feb 23 2014, 00:26
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(blueeyedcolossus @ Feb 22 2014, 22:52)  from time to time i also give something to it/him/her, but i have always been scammed: last time i tried with a noodle (just to say i tried also that) and gained a superior leather with only one PAB -.-"
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Feb 23 2014, 05:28
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Colman
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 23 2014, 04:17)  while high level go for shadowdancer because they got money (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) btw, i didn't note this great gap between SD and fleet and also crit bonus isn't all that big, am i wrong? The different is not much. But shadowdancer with same or better PAB is the only upgrade, so........ At my level PAB is more important than a small different in PMI/MMI/evade. Leg shadowdancer with 4 PAB seems uncommon recently. Perhaps I should go for the new 6 PAB shade for more mp. May try 1H/DW mage with a full set. This post has been edited by Colman: Feb 23 2014, 07:03
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Feb 23 2014, 05:51
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Ennma
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Feb 23 2014, 06:18
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zen_zen
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Feb 22 2014, 13:56)  While you might have lost a bunch of your Mana Tank, I bet your Interference went down some... especially if you got any Arcanist pieces.
Interference of 50 or so is manageable, which is where my current Shade set is at (54.6). The Leather set that I had had less Interference than my current Shade set although the added Burden from the Leather nullified any gain. Arcanist might work for you but I wanted ADB and Evade (significantly better than what the Leather provided) but on average the Evade gain from Arcanist Shade was marginal to slight compared to the Leather set that I had.
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Feb 23 2014, 07:31
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Colman
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QUOTE(Ennma @ Feb 23 2014, 11:51)  The easiest/cheapest way to fight in IWBTH/PF is to switch your rapier with a force shield. However, it is slow at your level.
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Feb 23 2014, 07:32
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Colman
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double post . network problem
This post has been edited by Colman: Feb 23 2014, 07:32
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