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If I am not willing to risk/spend time on clearing FSM on IWBTH, should I hold on my blood tokens until I will be able to do so, or equipment drop from RoB is so low in value compared to trophies that may as well clear FSM on Hell ( or Normal)?

Unless you plan on waiting till you level LoTD to 20+ (i would say 24+), it doesn't really matter. The ~55k you get from selling the Noodles is much more useful to you now.

Thought that evade instead of tanking would be better but I didn't know evade was so tied to stats so it's better left for higher levels. The wiki makes it seem like all builds are equal from the start and it's just a matter of taste.

if you're going to stick with light armor, 2H goes better with leather of protection/dampening; the burden from any non-ethereal 2H weapon hurts the evade bonus from shade too much to make it useful and you won't have enough parry/PMI/MMI to make up for it. this is especially true if you're not using a mace.

I would look to invest in a heavy 1h if it gave more survivability at higher difficulties than my current build

1H in general gives tons of survivability, but you need 200 1H prof and a good shield before that happens. some shielding plate probably wouldn't hurt either.

though I've also wondered if the parry bonus from a DW club + rapier build would help a lot.

DW shade works well at pretty much any level, and the parry bonus is pretty nice. i've been DW shade since about level 50 though, so my opinion might be a bit skewed.

If I am not willing to risk/spend time on clearing FSM on IWBTH, should I hold on my blood tokens until I will be able to do so, or equipment drop from RoB is so low in value compared to trophies that may as well clear FSM on Hell ( or Normal)?

unless your LOTD is 18+ you probably won't get anything good. do it at the highest difficulty you feel most comfortable at, if only for the extra EXP

If I am not willing to risk/spend time on clearing FSM on IWBTH, should I hold on my blood tokens until I will be able to do so, or equipment drop from RoB is so low in value compared to trophies that may as well clear FSM on Hell ( or Normal)?

imo, i'll just do it for the "Noodly" which can sell for 55-60k credits in WTB. if you factor in other drops, clearing bonus, etc. it's 10 tokens for 62+k credits even on normal.

though, anyone got any tips on clearing FSM on Hell+?

I just did it on hell. Magnificent shade of whatever (not even single shadowdancer piece) + ethereal exquisite mace of balance (i.e. crap). Only 1 mana potion used. In short - light armor+mace is probably safest equipment loadout possible. But it's slow.

This post has been edited by Paarfi: Feb 20 2014, 12:10

though, anyone got any tips on clearing FSM on Hell+?

I do it on PFUDOR all the time and I barely even need regen spell ;p they just don't hit me cuz they'r in stun all the time

just keep all the buffs on for safety

Friendly reminder of the "R" being native hotkey for "recast spell on target".

yep, two fingers were for F-R-F-R and so (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
from time to time i forgot i casted cure but, oh, well, it worked anyways...

I just did it on hell. Magnificent shade of whatever (not even single shadowdancer piece) + ethereal exquisite mace of balance (i.e. crap). Only 1 mana potion used. In short - light armor+mace is probably safest equipment loadout possible. But it's slow.

valuable drops?

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Feb 20 2014, 12:16

I just did it on hell. Magnificent shade of whatever (not even single shadowdancer piece) + ethereal exquisite mace of balance (i.e. crap). Only 1 mana potion used. In short - light armor+mace is probably safest equipment loadout possible. But it's slow.

it's slow for me too. it took 912 ROUNDS on Nintendo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

it's still a nice 80k c haul. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

912 17 You gain 1000 Credits!
912 16 You gain 1992646 EXP!
912 15 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
912 14 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Blood]
912 13 Arena Clear Bonus! [Exquisite Ruby Cotton Pants of Protection] <=unknown, but at least 1k in Bazaar.
912 12 Invisible Pink Unicorn dropped [Unicorn Horn] <=12.5k
912 11 Skuld dropped [Greater Mana Potion]
912 10 Drogon dropped [Monster Cuisine]
912 9 Yggdrasil dropped [Sapling]
912 8 Real Life dropped [Black T-Shirt] <=5k
912 7 Verdandi dropped [Superior Plate Sabatons of Protection]
912 6 Flying Spaghetti Monster dropped [Noodly Appendage] <=60k
912 5 Urd dropped [Heroic Health Potion]
912 4 You are Victorious!

I do it on PFUDOR all the time and I barely even need regen spell ;p they just don't hit me cuz they'r in stun all the time

just keep all the buffs on for safety

any tips? i generally kill the healing guy first. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

That's no FSM. That is Triple trio and the tree. And AFAIK it is recommended to only do it once. TT&T gives you 80k of trophies for 10 tokens of blood. FSM gives you 60k of trophies for 5 tokens of blood.

That's no FSM. That is Triple trio and the tree. And AFAIK it is recommended to only do it once. TT&T gives you 80k of trophies for 10 tokens of blood. FSM gives you 60k of trophies for 5 tokens of blood.

oh shit... didn't realize that.

you guys do TT&T in hell/PF difficulty risking to waste 10 tokens? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I do not have access to TT&T yet. On the other hand I do FSM on hell.

you guys do TT&T in hell/PF difficulty risking to waste 10 tokens? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

i just did it on Nintendo and now i feel like a dumbass. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

i just did it on Nintendo and now i feel like a dumbass. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

i did it on normal for the drops/credit bonus and won't do it anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


oh, btw, i did some calculations: it's true that this guy has a 46 and counting evade set and nice armor pieces, but they're also heavily forged:

My Equips:
High Evade Shade set. 46% Evade. Head - Body - Hands - Legs - Feet

assuming that in the first levels the contribute of forge could be calculated in a linear way, he would have an evade about as much as ours, or slightly higher; furthermore, three people within a 30ish levels have the same value, so i think that's the max we can have without spending a life-worthing amount of credits...

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Feb 20 2014, 13:35

i did it on normal for the drops/credit bonus and won't do it anymore (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
oh, btw, i did some calculations: it's true that this guy has a 46 and counting evade set and nice armor pieces, but they're also heavily forged:

assuming that in the first levels the contribute of forge could be calculated in a linear way, he would have an evade about as much as ours, if not slightly lower; furthermore, three people within a 30ish levels have the same value, so i think that's the max we can have without spending a life-worthing amount of credits...

50% dodge should not be hard to achieve at my level.
46%+ without forge is also not too had.
Mag shade of fleet should not be too expensive right now.
If you want to use dodge as your main defensive stat, make it 50%+.

This post has been edited by Colman: Feb 20 2014, 13:19

50% dodge should not be hard to achieve at my level.
46%+ without forge is also not too had.
Mag shade of fleet should not be too expensive right now.
If you want to use dodge as your main defensive stat, make it 50%+.

yeh, but i'm about 130 levels lower than you and can guarantee that i've absolutely not that much money to assemble a mag set of 4PABs fleet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
for now i'm fine with evading one hit out of three (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

yeh, but i'm about 130 levels lower than you and can guarantee that i've absolutely not that much money to assemble a mag set of 4PABs fleet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
for now i'm fine with evading one hit out of three (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

You get most Mags. for <1m, it's the legs. that are ridiculous.

Personally I currently have 47.2% evade. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

You get most Mags. for <1m, it's the legs. that are ridiculous.

Personally I currently have 47.2% evade. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

In old days (when i was <300 lvl) i also was running after high evade, but one day i tried 1H+power slaughter and everything changed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You get most Mags. for <1m, it's the legs. that are ridiculous.

<1M are ridicolous? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
have i misunderstood something?

I think he meant the legendaries are the ones with ridiculous prices. <1m mags are affordable.

I think he meant the legendaries are the ones with ridiculous prices. <1m mags are affordable.

ah, so he was telling me to remain in mag range... yeh, i had misunderstood (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)