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post Feb 15 2014, 01:43
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Feb 14 2014, 23:53) *

if you IW a weapon to lvl10 it would also get void damage and void strike. (and not IWing your main weapon is a waste)
you mean instead of slaghter and as only weapon? wouldn't that destroy the damage output? ( as if you were holding two sheilds as weapons =_= )


I don't think he's strong nor rich enough to IW his weapon. If he is, he should have bought a really good shield

1H doesn't become faceroll-fest until you're 300+. Thus, you need to supplement the lack of block/parry/counter chance with parry. You need a really good shield to use 1H axe slaughter (those 15% parry chance is apparently very important to your survival), and rapier slaughter is WAY out of his budget

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post Feb 15 2014, 02:06
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post Feb 15 2014, 03:26
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Feb 14 2014, 16:06) *

Thanks all for answers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

sorry to rain on the parade, but I doubt that exq eth nimble rapier will sell for much. That's one of the worst parry rolls I've seen on a nimble weapon in some time (just barely over supmax for Non-Nimbles). You can easily find balance or slaughter rapiers with better parry than that.
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post Feb 15 2014, 05:24
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QUOTE(etothex @ Feb 15 2014, 03:26) *

sorry to rain on the parade, but I doubt that exq eth nimble rapier will sell for much. That's one of the worst parry rolls I've seen on a nimble weapon in some time (just barely over supmax for Non-Nimbles). You can easily find balance or slaughter rapiers with better parry than that.


Just asking, I don't know much about prices for this types of equipment. And I'm not so poor to worry about this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Feb 15 2014, 05:36
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Do any melee players here equip Ripened Soul and Spirit Theft so Drain can also yield spirit? Toying with the idea myself and so wanted to get a sense of how viable it is.
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post Feb 15 2014, 05:37
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QUOTE(caiax @ Feb 15 2014, 11:36) *

Do any melee players here equip Ripened Soul and Spirit Theft so Drain can also yield spirit? Toying with the idea myself and so wanted to get a sense of how viable it is.

It is useful for mid level to clear School girl arena and go deeper in hell fest.
Only for dark mage or 1H IMO.

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post Feb 15 2014, 05:42
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QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 15 2014, 14:37) *

It is useful for mid level to clear School girl arena and go deeper in hell fest.
Only for dark mage or 1H IMO.


I'd rather bring 7 spirit pot and use focus than use something so random. Also it's easier to script focus.
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post Feb 15 2014, 06:03
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Can anyone tell me if I'm reading this right when comparing it to the Wiki? And also correct my use of acronyms.

Exquisite Hallowed Axe of Slaughter

ADB is a little under SupMax

Bleeding Wound chance is 5% below max but damage is max (where do I check what the max duration for procs are for the various weapons?).

Attack Accuracy and Crit Chance are just shy of EMax

Holy Damage - just shy of EMax

Strength - just shy of EMax

Agi - 1 roll below SupMax?

And of course it's missing Dex PAB which sucks.

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Is there a script or something that displays max roll values next to the item's roll values or do you all typically just compare it to the Wiki page?

My axe has 10.26 Attack Accuracy but the Wiki has 10.28; the multiplier is 0.6069. So is 10.26 considered EMax?

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post Feb 15 2014, 06:27
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QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 15 2014, 10:37) *
It is useful for mid level to clear School girl arena and go deeper in hell fest.
Only for dark mage or 1H IMO.

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Feb 15 2014, 10:42) *
I'd rather bring 7 spirit pot and use focus than use something so random. Also it's easier to script focus.

I use Spirit Drain with my 1H set. At my level of abilities, Ragnarok can pretty much proc at least 1 Ripened Soul if there are more than 6 monsters.

The cost for Ragnarok and Drain combined is 190 mana, that amount can be exchanged for ~210 points of spirit.


Using Spirit Pot is less efficient than using more Mana Pot and Spirit Drain, at least in the long run, because Spirit Pot's overflowed amount can't be "recycled" and will be wasted, whereas Mana Pot's excessive MP regen can be turned into SP instead.
Also, both Ragnarok and Drain have a (very decent, to my observation) chance to proc Channeling. Who wouldn't want to be able to refresh their buff for free more frequently? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Feb 15 2014, 06:49
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Hi.. newbie here.. A few questions, if you don't mind. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

>Where do I get amnesia shards?

>I plan to use these shards on a lvl 3 Sup. Ethereal Longsword of Slaughter. (1 atkSpd, 2 ctr.parry)
I don't think the counter-parry is useful, especially at my level. Also, the atkSpd bonus gets cut a lot by burden (I'm wearing heavy). I'd rather have the dmgUp and critDmgUp potencies. Am I correct in thinking this?

>I'm focusing on strengthening my weapon now, since I've noticed that leveling up got a lot slower. Is this the right time? Or the right weapon, for that matter.?
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post Feb 15 2014, 07:13
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QUOTE(ThunderEze @ Feb 15 2014, 06:49) *

Hi.. newbie here.. A few questions, if you don't mind. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

>Where do I get amnesia shards?

>I plan to use these shards on a lvl 3 Sup. Ethereal Longsword of Slaughter. (1 atkSpd, 2 ctr.parry)
I don't think the counter-parry is useful, especially at my level. Also, the atkSpd bonus gets cut a lot by burden (I'm wearing heavy). I'd rather have the dmgUp and critDmgUp potencies. Am I correct in thinking this?

>I'm focusing on strengthening my weapon now, since I've noticed that leveling up got a lot slower. Is this the right time? Or the right weapon, for that matter.?

Amnesia shards are dropped by monsters when fighting on any difficulty higher than normal; they are quite rare. They're also too valuable to be using them on any superior weapon, you'd be better served saving up to purchase a better weapon than redoing your longsword.

Also, for future reference, when asking questions about your gear, it helps to provide links. (Highlight the equipment in any of the equipment selection screens - the forge, IW, etc. - and press "c," if it doesn't work you may need to disable your pop-up blocker for HV).
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post Feb 15 2014, 07:19
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QUOTE(ThunderEze @ Feb 15 2014, 13:49) *

Hi.. newbie here.. A few questions, if you don't mind. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

>Where do I get amnesia shards?

You can get amnesia shards from monster's drop.
Or buy from other users if you want it right now since the drop rate is low.
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>I plan to use these shards on a lvl 3 Sup. Ethereal Longsword of Slaughter. (1 atkSpd, 2 ctr.parry)
I don't think the counter-parry is useful, especially at my level. Also, the atkSpd bonus gets cut a lot by burden (I'm wearing heavy). I'd rather have the dmgUp and critDmgUp potencies. Am I correct in thinking this?

Yes, Butcher and Fatality are preferred in general.
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>I'm focusing on strengthening my weapon now, since I've noticed that leveling up got a lot slower. Is this the right time? Or the right weapon, for that matter.?

I don't recommend IWing at your level. Superior one is not worth to IWing. It's really wasteful work.
At least Exq+ one, because you can get it very soon. Just use your weapon for now.
You have more places to use your credits right now more useful, like trainings, gears, Hath perks, etc.
I'd say you need to level up at least 200~250 first. Leveling up is the most important thing at low level.
By focusing on level up with some know-how, everyone can now raise level from 0 to 200 in 1~2 weeks at the latest.
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post Feb 15 2014, 07:27
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Feb 14 2014, 15:16) *

5) If I get bunch of them I think about it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
6) Why not regen? And does spirit shield is so usefull in IA?


Regen can't be put in IA, and some people like Spirit Shield a lot. I only use it on the highest difficulties.
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post Feb 15 2014, 07:29
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Feb 15 2014, 06:27) *

I use Spirit Drain with my 1H set. At my level of abilities, Ragnarok can pretty much proc at least 1 Ripened Soul if there are more than 6 monsters.

The cost for Ragnarok and Drain combined is 190 mana, that amount can be exchanged for ~210 points of spirit.
Using Spirit Pot is less efficient than using more Mana Pot and Spirit Drain, at least in the long run, because Spirit Pot's overflowed amount can't be "recycled" and will be wasted, whereas Mana Pot's excessive MP regen can be turned into SP instead.
Also, both Ragnarok and Drain have a (very decent, to my observation) chance to proc Channeling. Who wouldn't want to be able to refresh their buff for free more frequently? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


hm... interesting, maybe i'll start looking into Spirit drain again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 15 2014, 07:33
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I should also add that it's a good idea to bring at least 3-4 Spirit Pots in case of emergency, like when both of your Spirit Shield and Spark of Life are pierced through. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)
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post Feb 15 2014, 08:09
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Thanks for the answers! Really helpful. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 15 2014, 08:26
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Innate Arcana Unlocks the first auto-cast slot in the HentaiVerse, with a 10% upkeep reduction bonus. This allows you to select a spell that will be cast automatically.

what is a 10% upkeep reduction bonus?

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post Feb 15 2014, 08:41
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QUOTE(cyberstein @ Feb 15 2014, 01:26) *

Innate Arcana Unlocks the first auto-cast slot in the HentaiVerse, with a 10% upkeep reduction bonus. This allows you to select a spell that will be cast automatically.

what is a 10% upkeep reduction bonus?


Instead of using all the mana to cast a spell up front it's automatically cast for you and always on (as long as you have enough mana/spirit if needed) and uses a little bit of mana every turn.

Innate Arcana then reduces the mana cost a bit.

For example: let's say Protection costs 100 mana and lasts for 100 turns. With Innate Arcana slotted it would always be on and drain 1 mana per turn which is then reduced 10%; ie. drains .9 mana/turn.

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post Feb 15 2014, 08:50
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so, that mean Auto cast uses less mana than manual cast, Right?
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post Feb 15 2014, 08:52
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Thanks for the input on Spirit Theft. I'll look into it, but I'll have to get my forbidden proficiency up first I think.
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