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Jan 10 2011, 01:34
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marcho
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I was melee at that point. I certainly wasn't 1hko'ing anything.
What items are you burning razor? I'm sure theres a better way to clear those arenas.
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Jan 10 2011, 01:35
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hyl
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odd, when i was lvl 100 i can easily clear those arena's by only using greater mana potions.
If you want to kill bosses at your level, just use a spark (to be safe), weaken,(bewilder if their mp or sp is almost full) poison ,slow and regen and haste. You will get 3-4 turns before he can even act
This post has been edited by hyl: Jan 10 2011, 01:36
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Jan 10 2011, 01:36
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Razorflame
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QUOTE(marcho @ Jan 9 2011, 17:34)  I was melee at that point. I certainly wasn't 1hko'ing anything.
What items are you burning razor? I'm sure theres a better way to clear those arenas.
3x Health Elixir 1x Godly Spirit Potion 3x Godly Mana Potion 2x Godly Health Potion 1x Scroll of the Gods
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Jan 10 2011, 01:37
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hyl
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oh you are stll using melee for those arena's.
nevermind my comments then
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Jan 10 2011, 01:45
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Razorflame
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QUOTE(hyl @ Jan 9 2011, 17:37)  oh you are stll using melee for those arena's.
nevermind my comments then
I'm actually using a mixture of maging and melee. I use melee until the rounds wihere you start getting the mini-bosses and then I start using Chain Lightning on the mini-bosses once I start getting rounds with them because it helps me clear them faster.
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Jan 10 2011, 01:46
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marcho
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QUOTE(Razorflame @ Jan 9 2011, 17:36)  3x Health Elixir 1x Godly Spirit Potion 3x Godly Mana Potion 2x Godly Health Potion 1x Scroll of the Gods
OK, so the SotG you can definitely do without, you should only need 1-2 sparks and you can cast that yourself. At level 110 when you get silence you wont even need spark at all. Are you using Flames of Loki? personally I feel it does the best job of blasting through the bosses barrier rating, getting more damage per attack than soul or whatnot especially if your elemental rating is high. Hows your curative proficiency? Regen should let you do away with most of those elixers and replace them with mana potions.
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Jan 10 2011, 01:46
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jan 9 2011, 23:31)  Legendaries/gods can't get their spirit attack off unless their SP bar is full? So no half full wpirit attack?
Yes. No. QUOTE(Razorflame @ Jan 9 2011, 23:36)  3x Health Elixir 1x Godly Spirit Potion 3x Godly Mana Potion 2x Godly Health Potion 1x Scroll of the Gods
Don't use health restorative items, mana versions are much better.
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Jan 10 2011, 01:46
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DMG
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Ok, I'm a mage build, I have 197 SP and I depend quite much on Spark of Life. So is Spirit Shield much of a use to me?
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Jan 10 2011, 01:52
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(DMG @ Jan 9 2011, 23:46)  Ok, I'm a mage build, I have 197 SP and I depend quite much on Spark of Life. So is Spirit Shield much of a use to me?
Spirit shield is a full waste of 5 AP, and MP. Only absorbs soul damage, and normally these enemy attacks make you lose more than 1/2 base SP. So spark is nicer, what are the problems?
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Jan 10 2011, 01:57
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DMG
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Well I was wondering if I should transfer the 5 AP from Spirit Shield to X-Nerf when I do my Ability Tree reset on level 200. And you answered. Also the last time I used Spirit Shield Flying Spaghetti Monster hit me, drained all my SP and still killed me. Spark of Life could not trigger because Spirit Shield drained all the SP. I was wandering ever since if I was using it wrong (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jan 10 2011, 01:57
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Razorflame
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QUOTE(marcho @ Jan 9 2011, 17:46)  OK, so the SotG you can definitely do without, you should only need 1-2 sparks and you can cast that yourself. At level 110 when you get silence you wont even need spark at all.
Are you using Flames of Loki? personally I feel it does the best job of blasting through the bosses barrier rating, getting more damage per attack than soul or whatnot especially if your elemental rating is high.
Hows your curative proficiency? Regen should let you do away with most of those elixers and replace them with mana potions.
Curative proficiency is 66.31. Regen only heals 68 damage per turn, which isn't enough to handle the amount of damage taken by the normal monsters in the mob. I'm not a high enough level to use Flames of Loki. I decided not to get Spark of Life because I know that I won't use it as often as the other spells that I have currently.
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Jan 10 2011, 02:02
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hyl
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actually spark is an usefull spell. Because you are going to face the gods sooner or later and every arena after lvl 100 has atleast 1 boss monster at the end
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Jan 10 2011, 02:04
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marcho
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Hmm, well, maybe you should wait to 110 lol.
Or if you haven't switched over to int pumping and still have reasonable melee stats, if you bump your curative prof up and use evade gear, I was clearing those arenas with almost no items at all using a shield and rapier.
Also, I still don;t have spark. I find silence and paying attention to be more than enough for anything on normal - hard difficulty, although I would assume spark becomes necesary once I'm able to efficiently move on to higher difficulties. But yes I did all of the gods on normal without spark or scrolls.
This post has been edited by marcho: Jan 10 2011, 02:06
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Jan 10 2011, 02:07
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Razorflame
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QUOTE(marcho @ Jan 9 2011, 18:04)  Hmm, well, maybe you should wait to 110 lol.
Or if you haven't switched over to int pumping and still have reasonable melee stats, if you bump your curative prof up and use evade gear, I was clearing those arenas with almost no items at all using a shield and rapier. Also, I still don;t have spark. I find silence and paying attention to be more than enough for anything on normal - hard difficulty, although I would assume spark becomes necesary once I'm able to efficiently move on to higher difficulties. But yes I did all of the gods on normal without spark or scrolls.
Ok, will try this. I've already started improving my INT. My INT is my highest attribute now.
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Jan 10 2011, 02:08
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hyl
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if int is your highest stat, why are you playing a half melee and magic style?
If you sticked using pure magic, then you only need mana potions and it would have your proficiencies for your spells as well
edit: raised your proficiencies
This post has been edited by hyl: Jan 10 2011, 02:19
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Jan 10 2011, 02:34
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tribalspirit
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razor i'm full melee and i use only greater mana potions and scrolls of warding... have you capped your proficiences before skyrocketing at that level? IMHO don't use offensive spell in arens before you can 1hk anything, do cakeworlds to raise your worst prof... use mana for shield weaken bewilder poison and regen
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Jan 10 2011, 02:38
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Razorflame
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QUOTE(hyl @ Jan 9 2011, 18:08)  if int is your highest stat, why are you playing a half melee and magic style?
If you sticked using pure magic, then you only need mana potions and it would have your proficiencies for your spells as well
edit: raised your proficiencies
I play half mage, half melee because I need to for now. Once I reach Level 110, I'll go full mage (once Flames of Loki is available). Until then, I'll work on my proficiencies and keep clearing arenas (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks for the help everyone.
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Jan 10 2011, 04:36
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n125
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jan 9 2011, 03:09)  1/2/3) get evade silk...
Thanks for the responses. Will just any evade silk work, or is there a particular Evade Chance that I should aim for? What about other stats? That's the problem I have with armor--I don't understand which stats are important and how high they should be in order to be useful. Would it be good to also incorporate armor of other types (i.e., light, heavy)? What kind of stats should those have? QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jan 9 2011, 03:09)  4) Focused Aura only allows you to rank up one of your aura. aura slot only allows you to activate another aura to use concurrently.
Right, but when it comes to spending an aura point, is it better to increase the level of an aura you already have, or is it better to release a new aura? I'm just trying to figure out what should have priority.
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Jan 10 2011, 05:44
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Razorflame
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I've decided to switch to pure mage now. I've beaten all the arenas but Endgame and Twisted Plots with just magic (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Jan 10 2011, 06:32
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neochef0
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