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Feb 2 2014, 02:08
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rancidmeat
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Feb 1 2014, 18:54)  I have a question myself about IW-ing. Should I reforge a club lv.2 with lv.1 Overpower and lv.1 Butcher?
Depends on how much of a perfectionist you are for Butcher 5. If you care about the damage rating of the weapon more than just about any other aspect of it, then go for it. If you just want the IW10 extra strike faster than anything else (so the weapon becomes a real upgrade instead of a sidegrade for most people who are moving from an IW10 weapon to a new weapon), then I wouldn't bother. Just make your decision early on so you don't waste amnesia shards. And if you really want Butcher 5, I'd probably reset every time it hops off of Butcher until you hit 5 right off the bat. Or you might end up with something like the rapier in my sig haha.
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Feb 2 2014, 02:35
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something
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does anyone want to let me borrow a level 10 rapier of balance for about an hour? i want to compare and see how much faster/easier PFUDOR T&T is with one vs using my waki(as of now i can clear it in ~50 mins)
i'd use mine, but i get molested whenever i try to use it on PFUDOR. it's kind of embarrassing.
This post has been edited by something: Feb 2 2014, 02:39
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Feb 2 2014, 02:44
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(rancidmeat @ Feb 2 2014, 11:08)  Depends on how much of a perfectionist you are for Butcher 5.
If you care about the damage rating of the weapon more than just about any other aspect of it, then go for it. If you just want the IW10 extra strike faster than anything else (so the weapon becomes a real upgrade instead of a sidegrade for most people who are moving from an IW10 weapon to a new weapon), then I wouldn't bother.
Just make your decision early on so you don't waste amnesia shards. And if you really want Butcher 5, I'd probably reset every time it hops off of Butcher until you hit 5 right off the bat.
Or you might end up with something like the rapier in my sig haha.
Well I don't really want Butcher 5 that badly, I'm just annoyed by the overpower thing, which is rather pointless for club. If I got it at lv 6 then I'd just ignore it and keep going, but getting it at lv 2 feels like bad luck (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Feb 2 2014, 03:00
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(something @ Feb 2 2014, 11:35)  does anyone want to let me borrow a level 10 rapier of balance for about an hour? i want to compare and see how much faster/easier PFUDOR T&T is with one vs using my waki(as of now i can clear it in ~50 mins)
i'd use mine, but i get molested whenever i try to use it on PFUDOR. it's kind of embarrassing.
I could lend you this http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0553ab5cfc after I finish my current run.
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Feb 2 2014, 03:07
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something
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Feb 1 2014, 20:00)  that should work just fine (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) will post results after i complete it or die
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Feb 2 2014, 03:30
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(something @ Feb 2 2014, 12:07)  that should work just fine (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) will post results after i complete it or die sent
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Feb 2 2014, 03:35
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something
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so much generosity....
@holy demon: i already picked up the one eramosat sent me. sending yours back
@eramosat: thanks a bunch. see you in an hour or so
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Feb 2 2014, 05:13
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something
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finished.
rapier was about twice as fast(35-50 turns/round with waki vs 20-35 turns/round with rapier). my only complaint is that my usual attack pattern doesn't work as well(wait till +5 mobs show up, t1 t2 t3, build OC for next round, repeat, stance if needed) because i kill the enemies too fast and i end up trying to fight my way through a mob of giants without frenzied blows.
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Feb 2 2014, 08:17
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masamunemaniac
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Does Burden interact at all with the crit gain from Heartseeker or the evade gain from Shadow Veil?
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Feb 2 2014, 09:01
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varst
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QUOTE(masamunemaniac @ Feb 2 2014, 14:17)  Does Burden interact at all with the crit gain from Heartseeker or the evade gain from Shadow Veil?
No.
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Feb 2 2014, 09:10
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Jeanne d'Arc
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QUOTE(blueeyedcolossus @ Feb 2 2014, 00:20)  Wait, so you go into the fight and keep hitting tree or what with a crappy weapon to get prof up?
no i dont do such (grind prof in iw), also there is no point in hiting the tree since he dont heal himself only the goddess, but the tree casts absorb ... so its not so bad to grind offensive spell prof on them. QUOTE(n125 @ Jan 27 2014, 09:27)  It takes me about 3500 turns to re-max my Staff proficiency whenever I level up. I do it against the goddesses in the final round of Trio and the Tree; I use nothing but staff to attack (without using Imperil) in that round, killing Yggdrasil first and then Urd, so the other two goddesses get her defensive death proc buff. My Cloth Armor proficiency also gets very close to the max when I do this. ...I can't remember how many turns it took to kill FSM using the PA & Poison strategy back in the day. I want to say over 10000, but I feel that might be overshooting it by a lot.
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Feb 2 2014, 10:53
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ConfusedPerv
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does elemental proficiency affects spike shield's damage? i wonder since my elemental proficiency is not even 1 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Feb 2 2014, 11:32
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Jeanne d'Arc
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QUOTE(ConfusedPerv @ Feb 2 2014, 09:53)  does elemental proficiency affects spike shield's damage? i wonder since my elemental proficiency is not even 1 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) if wiki say, it count as phy. dmg, why should prof from elements boost it? does it even get any boost at the first place? QUOTE Spike Shields
Spike Shields are an ability that grant an added effect to the Protection spell. Only 1 of 4 elemental shields can be active at one time. Can proc upon parrying or blocking an attack. Do a minimum of 5 damage to monsters regardless of damage taken. Count as physical damage. Can proc status effects (~20%? chance).
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Feb 2 2014, 11:35
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Paarfi
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QUOTE(varst @ Feb 2 2014, 08:01)  No.
Then equations in wiki is wrong, because according to them, all crit/evade bonuses added multiplicatively and reduction from burden is also added as a multiplicative. Wiki also says that burden reduces attack speed. Do you think it is also wrong?
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Feb 2 2014, 11:39
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Jeanne d'Arc
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QUOTE(Paarfi @ Feb 2 2014, 10:35) 
Wiki also says that burden reduces attack speed. Do you think it is also wrong?
it does reduce... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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Feb 2 2014, 11:43
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malkatmp
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in terms of best way to farm Credits, i should do Arena runs, right? if i've limited time (~1-2hrs/day).
1. should i do it on the lower difficulty (ie Hard to Hell) and clear as many rounds as possible. And start from "The Trio and the Tree" then down to "First Blood" direction?
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2. clear a few of them on the highest difficulty and start from "First Blood"?
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Feb 2 2014, 11:45
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ConfusedPerv
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QUOTE(Teresa of the Faint Smile @ Feb 2 2014, 16:32)  if wiki say, it count as phy. dmg, why should prof from elements boost it? does it even get any boost at the first place?
i'm too lazy to check wiki thoroughly (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) that's good to hear then,i dont have to grind my elemental proficiency (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Feb 2 2014, 12:02
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Jeanne d'Arc
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Feb 2 2014, 10:43)  in terms of best way to farm Credits, i should do Arena runs, right? if i've limited time (~1-2hrs/day).
1. should i do it on the lower difficulty (ie Hard to Hell) and clear as many rounds as possible. And start from "The Trio and the Tree" then down to "First Blood" direction?
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2. clear a few of them on the highest difficulty and start from "First Blood"?
obvious the higher the difficulty and the bigger the monster groups the better the credits income (first page arena has small monster groups... so less credits drops). if you only like to spent 1-2h farming/grinding, then do marathons on atleast hell, SG dont drop bad credits also trophies who you could shrine... bazzar food again credits gain. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Feb 2 2014, 12:53
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(Teresa of the Faint Smile @ Feb 2 2014, 12:02)  obvious the higher the difficulty and the bigger the monster groups the better the credits income (first page arena has small monster groups... so less credits drops). if you only like to spent 1-2h farming/grinding, then do marathons on atleast hell, SG dont drop bad credits also trophies who you could shrine... bazzar food again credits gain. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Thanks, but what does SG mean? can't find it on the acronym page.
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