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Jan 24 2014, 21:27
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reigenxd3
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This post has been edited by reigenxd3: Jan 24 2014, 21:43
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Jan 24 2014, 21:35
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rancidmeat
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Jan 24 2014, 11:46)  1. How feasible is Niten+Shade in high difficulty Arenas & Schoolgirl marathons?
Don't think niten is very good for schoolgirls because of no penetrated armor. So it'll take a lot of hits to kill any schoolgirl. Shade for schoolgirls is fine IMO, longer kill time than slaughter but much better survival vs their spirit attacks (resist and evade) so it depends on how fast you kill them (essentially how frequently you get hit by spirit attacks cuz you can't kill them fast enough). Its probably pretty good for just grinding up lots of standard mobs so its good for all the other arenas.
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Jan 24 2014, 21:37
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Colman
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QUOTE(rancidmeat @ Jan 25 2014, 03:35)  Don't think niten is very good for schoolgirls because of no penetrated armor. So it'll take a lot of hits to kill any schoolgirl.
Shade for schoolgirls is fine IMO, longer kill time than slaughter but much better survival vs their spirit attacks (resist and evade) so it depends on how fast you kill them (essentially how frequently you get hit by spirit attacks cuz you can't kill them fast enough).
Its probably pretty good for just grinding up lots of standard mobs so its good for all the other arenas.
Skyward Sword give PA, so you need to use it at the beginning of every round in SG arena. 100 OC + 10 turn cool down is sufficient to keep the SG always PAed. It is troublesome so I drop it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by Colman: Jan 24 2014, 21:40
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Jan 24 2014, 21:59
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holy_demon
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How much damage does OFC deal, say, in comparison with shield bash? The wiki has no data (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Jan 24 2014, 22:10
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☆Loli Police☆
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jan 24 2014, 11:59)  How much damage does OFC deal, say, in comparison with shield bash? The wiki has no data (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) QUOTE 35 3 Vital Strike crits Ever17 The Out Of Infinity for 124023 void damage 35 2 You gain the effect Chain 2. 35 1 You use Vital Strike. 34 3 Shield Bash crits Ever17 The Out Of Infinity for 23170 crushing damage QUOTE 1 8 You gain 570818 EXP! 1 7 You are Victorious! 1 6 The effect Overwhelming Strikes has expired. 1 5 Touma Kamijou has been defeated. 1 4 Orbital Friendship Cannon crits Touma Kamijou for 192504 void damage 1 3 Bottle Fairy has been defeated. 1 2 Orbital Friendship Cannon crits Bottle Fairy for 149511 void damage 1 1 You use Orbital Friendship Cannon. 0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=77686 (Touma Kamijou) LV=331 HP=72583 0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=42623 (Bottle Fairy) LV=332 HP=108264 0 1 Initializing Grindfest (Round 3 / 1000) ... 0 0 Battle Start!
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Jan 24 2014, 22:13
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etothex
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Jan 24 2014, 08:46)  1. How feasible is Niten+Shade in high difficulty Arenas & Schoolgirl marathons? 2. Is the attack damage of this waki too low or what? 1. i have no issues with iwbth arena, w/o even bothering to shard my elemental katana. You'll want a pretty good waki, my offhand is 100% and parry >50%. I don't really PFUDOR w/ shade except when using DW. Maybe i'll try it out later. don't do schoolgirls though, tis not a good idea, skyward sword won't last long enough to do enough damage; Building OC requires not using stance, etc; you could imperil them but that's just adding work. There are tradeoffs vs going power+niten. shade+niten gives me crazy action speed, so I get more PAed hits in. I can generally kill off all all the PAed trash mobs before PA expires, but you do a lot less damage (diff for me is 1100 damage) so it works out kinda the same in mobs taken down. With stance on, Power gets the edge (takes down strong mobs faster). Don't bother w/ skyward sword til >=5 mobs.
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Jan 24 2014, 23:18
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Paarfi
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According to your observations, at what level it is possible to clear the hellfest with light armor/mace? And long-term goals: how much credits should I expect to spend on legendary ethereal mace of balance? will it be cheaper than magnificent ethereal mace of slaughter?
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Jan 24 2014, 23:29
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Paarfi @ Jan 24 2014, 22:18)  And long-term goals: how much credits should I expect to spend on legendary ethereal mace of balance? will it be cheaper than magnificent ethereal mace of slaughter?
I bought mine in a shop for, I don't know, 600k? Someone PMed me to buy it back for a better price (800k? 1M?) right after, so I know that was a good deal. This post has been edited by Dan31: Jan 24 2014, 23:31
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Jan 24 2014, 23:34
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mustardpie
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I sold this for 200k in an auction. :/
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Jan 24 2014, 23:36
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Paarfi
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Jan 24 2014, 22:29)  I bought mine in a shop for, I don't know, 600k? Someone PMed me to buy it back for a better price (800k? 1M?) right after, so I know that was a good deal. I see that it have Endurance potency. Was it leveled up when you bought it? This post has been edited by Paarfi: Jan 24 2014, 23:37
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Jan 24 2014, 23:40
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Paarfi @ Jan 24 2014, 22:36)  I see that it have Endurance potency. Was it leveled up when you bought it?
Nope, I paid someone to level it up at the time. I didn't want to reset it if you are wondering why it's there.
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Jan 25 2014, 00:12
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Jan 24 2014, 22:40)  Nope, I paid someone to level it up at the time. I didn't want to reset it if you are wondering why it's there.
4 END points free, it isn't so bad (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jan 25 2014, 00:19
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(ShatteredWings) 
Thanks for the data. Seems like OFC is the key to clearing PFUDOR Schoolgirl and Hellfest fast. Anyway I forgot to ask for FRD, can you give it to me?
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Jan 25 2014, 00:27
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☆Loli Police☆
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jan 24 2014, 14:19)  Thanks for the data. Seems like OFC is the key to clearing PFUDOR Schoolgirl and Hellfest fast. Anyway I forgot to ask for FRD, can you give it to me?
I don't have FUS RO DAH, I'm too lazy to get the Dovahkiin title. >_<
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Jan 25 2014, 00:33
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(ShatteredWings @ Jan 25 2014, 09:27)  I don't have FUS RO DAH, I'm too lazy to get the Dovahkiin title. >_<
Guess I'll have t get it myself, gonna try it again today :/
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Jan 25 2014, 01:49
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qw3rty67
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How would you optimize my build?
The strategy is to use the counters from one-handed to fill my overcharge while I cast spells, then use the level 1 and 2 melee skills to control the crowd. Holy and ether drain saves you from potting. I don't have tier 3 light/dark or maxed imperil yet so keep those in mind. Right now I am using rapier, tower, and full cloth.
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Jan 25 2014, 02:06
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masamunemaniac
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Is there any particular reason you'd want to clear Grindfest? The only real reward for doing so seems to be 5k credits, which you could easily make much more quickly by clearing Arenas.
Just I see a lot of questions about clearing it and was wondering if it was for anything more than bragging rights...
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Jan 25 2014, 02:29
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(qw3rty67 @ Jan 25 2014, 00:49)  Holy and ether drain saves you from potting.
it really drains so much mp? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Jan 25 2014, 02:39
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Drakewyn
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QUOTE(masamunemaniac @ Jan 24 2014, 16:06)  Is there any particular reason you'd want to clear Grindfest? The only real reward for doing so seems to be 5k credits, which you could easily make much more quickly by clearing Arenas.
Just I see a lot of questions about clearing it and was wondering if it was for anything more than bragging rights...
It also provides a large number of Crystals, apparently.
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Jan 25 2014, 02:46
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qw3rty67
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 24 2014, 19:29)  it really drains so much mp? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) You get back as much as a focus. Less if the enemy's mana bar is too low.
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