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Price check pls

Magnificent Ethereal Club of Slaughter

Just got it from To kill a God PFUDOR

Depends on the buyer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This went for 150k while This went for 1m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Not sure if the second one was previously IWed or not.

This post has been edited by mustardpie: Jan 24 2014, 14:19

tbh, i'd wish there's a build in "auction" in the game. instead us going through price checks and a dozen forum post to find out what's something worth. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

That' what userscrips are for (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

That' what userscrips are for (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

wait, what userscrips have an auction function?

wait, what userscrips have an auction function?

You have to write one yourself, of course (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

People will keep it private to make money, duh

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jan 24 2014, 14:39

Depends on the buyer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This went for 150k while This went for 1m (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Not sure if the second one was previously IWed or not.

But the 2nd one was clearly better than the first one O.o

And when the hell did those auction happen? There hasn't any mag eth club auction for like a month already :/

Serious suggestion: just get one of them.

ethereal then, i've already spent too much credits to re-convert to hallowed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It depends on how much you use cure. If you stack physical mitigation, then cure is pretty much useless. [..] But in terms of dps, you will probably find that ethereal +holy strike is better than Hallowed lvl 10. I'm still pretty skeptical of 'hallowed' as getting ~15% bonus to heal doesn't seam very good, although it is definitely the best of the elemental strikes, and ethereal is hella expensive.

at the start of RE, about every other turn, even with haste on and pmi at 53% (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
in arenas it's even better, but still one of my favorite...

Max base is your level, don't train Assimilator because you won't need it. As you level up it takes longer to level and your proficiencies will grow at around level 300, you can get any melee proficiency to 300 before you reach level 301.

so basically i've plenty of time to maximize my profs, allright (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jan 24 2014, 14:54

so the question is still 'is it better to have an hollowforged hallowed weapon with the bonus cure or an ethereal weapon with holy strike and with no bur/itr at all?'
judging from the amount of hp retrieved with the bonus, at my level is still better an ethereal weapon, maybe with higher holy MDB it may help an hallowed weapon with low burden, right?

They have the pros and cons, and depends on each person.
- Hallowed + lv10 hollowed weapon: It still has burden/interference, so it may not be preferable if you're shade user. But you don't need to worry about IW result from lvl 9 to lvl 10 that which elemental strike would be added. And cheaper than ethereal. About +20% bonus to Cure is also good, but it is not extremely important thing.
- Ethereal + lv10 holy strike weapon: Congratulations! You got it. You may get 4 Butcher and 5 Fatality on your fabulous weapon through 100+ more long-suffering trials. And beat the odds of 1 in 6 to get holy strike at last! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

and also: i read a few pages ago that to use nietn it's better to have 2H and DW proficiency maxed, but what is the maximum? i'm at 160 and they are still increasing, even though with a time-variable trend...

Maximum is same with your level. 224 at your level now.

They have the pros and cons, and depends on each person.
- Hallowed + lv10 hollowed weapon: It still has burden/interference, so it may not be preferable if you're shade user. But you don't need to worry about IW result from lvl 9 to lvl 10 that which elemental strike would be added. And cheaper than ethereal. About +20% bonus to Cure is also good, but it is not extremely important thing.
- Ethereal + lv10 holy strike weapon: Congratulations! You got it. You may get 4 Butcher and 5 Fatality on your fabulous weapon through 100+ more long-suffering trials. And beat the odds of 1 in 6 to get holy strike at last! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

yeh, shade user here. also, with the onyx shade patch of balance or whatever the hell it's named, IW isn't more 100-and-counting-rounds long: for example my items are almost all between 40 and 50 since i'm still stuck in the sup-exq range, even my katanas are now IW worthy...

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jan 24 2014, 15:09

But the 2nd one was clearly better than the first one O.o

And when the hell did those auction happen? There hasn't any mag eth club auction for like a month already :/

Just had a look through previous auctions and picked out the lowest and highest bids. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Didn't really look at the quality very well, but seemed similar enough at a first glance. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

IW isn't more 100-and-counting-rounds long:

Ah, I mean that 100+ more runs by reforging with amnesia shards (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Cats Lover: Jan 24 2014, 15:34

Ah, I mean that 100+ more runs by reforging with amnesia shards (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

oh, yeah, high-level player tend to amnesiashardize its equips too often (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
btw, once i went to lv3 with a sword and reforge it costed me like 8 shards (all i had at the moment): at first i thought that it was one per level, but when i saw the number of missing shards i felt, let's say, like i burned 150k credits and felt incredibly cool (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)
isn't it a bit strange? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) should i go to customer service?

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Jan 24 2014, 15:48

It is one amnesia shard per level.

It is one amnesia shard per level.

ok, a bit better but still 5 missing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

What are the chances of getting either binding from this weapon if I were to salvage it?

This post has been edited by mustardpie: Jan 24 2014, 16:51

What are the chances of getting either binding from this weapon if I were to salvage it?

Round down, so no chance. You can test that though.

Round down, so no chance. You can test that though.

Aren't the other materials returned too? If so, then since there are about 5 materials (including the binding) per upgrade, the return chance is significant. Is there someone familiar with the salvaging of forged materials here to confirm that?

Anyway, if that's the case, if you have the lowest forge level (80% return), the chances are:
- 62.2% chance of getting both bindings ;
- 35.6% chance of getting either binding ;
- 2.2% chance of getting none.

And if you have the max forge level (90% return):
- 80% chance of getting both ;
- 20% chance of getting either.

Wrong formula, since it is by chance, and not a fixed 80% return rate (or whatever your percentage might be). Also, I did the math for 5 materials per upgarde instead of 6. The number of material per upgrade has no bearing on returns if it is by chance anyway.

This post has been edited by Dan31: Jan 24 2014, 18:03

I'm not anywhere near where I'd be IW'ing equipment but are you able to amnesia shard an item if you get it to level 10 and it gets an elemental prefix you don't want?

I.e. seems like it's widely accept that you want Holy Strike and you end up with something else, can you reset it and try again for Holy Strike or is your weapon permanently stuck after a certain level?

I'm not anywhere near where I'd be IW'ing equipment but are you able to amnesia shard an item if you get it to level 10 and it gets an elemental prefix you don't want?

I.e. seems like it's widely accept that you want Holy Strike and you end up with something else, can you reset it and try again for Holy Strike or is your weapon permanently stuck after a certain level?

You can (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif), but it is not worthy in most of the case. You need 10 shards, which is worth ~100k, for a reset from LV10.

edit: Three people reply to the same question at the same time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Colman: Jan 24 2014, 17:46

I'm not anywhere near where I'd be IW'ing equipment but are you able to amnesia shard an item if you get it to level 10 and it gets an elemental prefix you don't want?

I.e. seems like it's widely accept that you want Holy Strike and you end up with something else, can you reset it and try again for Holy Strike or is your weapon permanently stuck after a certain level?

You can redo but it starts from level 0 always.

I'm not anywhere near where I'd be IW'ing equipment but are you able to amnesia shard an item if you get it to level 10 and it gets an elemental prefix you don't want?

I.e. seems like it's widely accept that you want Holy Strike and you end up with something else, can you reset it and try again for Holy Strike or is your weapon permanently stuck after a certain level?

You can always reforge a weapon, providing you have enough amnesia shards and the time and patience to level it up again.