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post Jan 21 2014, 20:50
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 21 2014, 13:17) *

level 220, just gained full-cure... is there a way to lower the mana required to cast it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


outside of spirit stance, battlecaster/focus weapons, economizer, and increasing supportive prof, no.

an easy way to gain supportive prof is to go 2H cloth with a battlecaster weapon and shit cloth with as much wisdom as you can find and spamming protection.

tbh, you'll almost never use it; full cure is meant to be more of an "oh shit" button (thanks holy demon for the term)

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post Jan 21 2014, 20:52
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jan 22 2014, 03:17) *

level 220, just gained full-cure... is there a way to lower the mana required to cast it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

1. Raise your supportive proficiency
2. Lower your interference or use equipment with mana conservation
3. Cast it with spirit stance on

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post Jan 21 2014, 20:58
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QUOTE(reigenxd3 @ Jan 22 2014, 04:31) *

with 150+ interference spell cost very munch ^^

Don't come crying to us when you couldn't get through arena because you run out of mana pot, then. Mana pot is always more effective than health pot

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post Jan 21 2014, 20:59
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QUOTE(something @ Jan 21 2014, 19:50) *

tbh, you'll almost never use it; full cure is meant to be more of an "oh shit" button (thanks holy demon for the term)

yeah, just realized it... -.-"
i guess i'll remain with standard cure, it also has significantly lower cooldown

thanks however for the advices to you and cats lover
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post Jan 21 2014, 21:07
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jan 21 2014, 21:58) *

Don't come crying to us when you couldn't get through arena because you run out of mana pot, then. Mana pot is always more effective than health pot

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post Jan 21 2014, 21:09
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huh. did Eternal Darkness on normal and surprisingly, it was really easy. i only used 2 mp pots throughout the whole thing and i never went below 80% health...maybe i've gotten too used to item world's difficulty on nightmare cause it felt really easy. (mainly doing the dagger in my sig for the hell of it and hope to get a little bit of credits out of the fiery mace when it gets to 10)

anyway, thanks for the people who aided me with info.

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post Jan 21 2014, 21:19
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Jan 22 2014, 04:23) *

And both would just barely have been upgrades for me. If it has "of Slaughter" on it, it almost always goes for 50k+, unless it's crap.


See for yourself
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=fd15907ee5 (cost me 20k)
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ebd93e74bc (50k)

Anyway, if you want I can give you either this
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=51a698facc
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http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b3996812cc

QUOTE(zekana @ Jan 22 2014, 06:09) *

huh. did Eternal Darkness on normal and surprisingly, it was really easy. i only used 2 mp pots throughout the whole thing and i never went below 80% health...maybe i've gotten too used to item world's difficulty on nightmare cause it felt really easy. (mainly doing the dagger in my sig for the hell of it and hope to get a little bit of credits out of the fiery mace when it gets to 10)

anyway, thanks for the people who aided me with info.


You should aim to run everything on at least Hell. And you should be able to run all of your available arenas on Hell at your level

Doing them on anything easier than Hell will give you drop penalty.

If you can't do them, then I suggest you drop the health pots (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

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post Jan 21 2014, 21:29
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I never knew this, but turns out I needed to revisit the training page after a training is finished to actually get it. WHY

I had times when I finished a training for weeks to just leave it there. IT COULD'VE INCREASED MY DROPS TO A LEGENDARY!
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post Jan 21 2014, 21:35
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QUOTE(watisthis @ Jan 21 2014, 21:29) *

I never knew this, but turns out I needed to revisit the training page after a training is finished to actually get it. WHY

I had times when I finished a training for weeks to just leave it there. IT COULD'VE INCREASED MY DROPS TO A LEGENDARY!

This is HVerse, upgrading all your trainings just makes the drops that much more sour.
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post Jan 21 2014, 21:42
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IT COULD'VE INCREASED MY DROPS TO A LEGENDARY!

btw, how much can training increase the min. cap? can it do it so only superios+ would drop at least? or exqs? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 21 2014, 21:45
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jan 22 2014, 06:42) *

btw, how much can training increase the min. cap? can it do it so only superios+ would drop at least? or exqs? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


At 18/25 LoTD, I'm still getting average xD
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post Jan 21 2014, 22:04
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Jan 21 2014, 14:35) *

This is HVerse, upgrading all your trainings just makes the drops that much more sour.


I can still complain those crappy average/sup/exq could've been a legendary damit!
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post Jan 21 2014, 22:54
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i've been wondering this for a while. when doing item world (or any fights for that matter), does your difficulty level effect your stamina depletion? going into item world on hard or nightmare seemed to consistently drop my stamina by 3-4 points, but doing it on hell just now only dropped it by 2 (every round was 63)

this just my imagination or am i remembering the numbers wrong?

also, holy_demon, i think 3 health and 4 mana potions and 1 spirit seems to be working for me. if i feel i need more mana, i'll go down to 2 health and 5 mana.

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post Jan 21 2014, 23:45
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If your stamina drops below 80, it depletes 5x slower. Not aware of anything else that could affect it in your scenarios.
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post Jan 21 2014, 23:47
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jan 21 2014, 11:19) *


Second one you bought, 50k like I said. First one, probably from when I was just starting to work on 1h so I was more worried about stunning.

Besides, 50k is currently ~1/2 of my bankroll... and I still need to worry about better other gear.

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jan 21 2014, 11:19) *
You should aim to run everything on at least Hell. And you should be able to run all of your available arenas on Hell at your level

Doing them on anything easier than Hell will give you drop penalty.

If you can't do them, then I suggest you drop the health pots (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


Actually, I typically do the school-girl arenas on Normal... mixing in a Hell+ arena and a ~40-60 minute pause in-between. The drop penalty is not that huge, when 1/3 of the monsters are school-girls anyway, and I'm only doing them for the trophies.

QUOTE(zekana @ Jan 21 2014, 12:54) *

i've been wondering this for a while. when doing item world (or any fights for that matter), does your difficulty level effect your stamina depletion? going into item world on hard or nightmare seemed to consistently drop my stamina by 3-4 points, but doing it on hell just now only dropped it by 2 (every round was 63)

this just my imagination or am i remembering the numbers wrong?

also, holy_demon, i think 3 health and 4 mana potions and 1 spirit seems to be working for me. if i feel i need more mana, i'll go down to 2 health and 5 mana.


It's your imagination... I used to think the same thing until I paid close attention to the number of rounds & my stamina level. Just remember that you only recover stamina when you're not fighting...
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post Jan 22 2014, 00:02
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each minute in fight make lose 0.0139 Recovering Stamina
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post Jan 22 2014, 00:11
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@Drakewyn I could lend you my old axe for an extended period of time if you'd like.

I don't use it anymore nor do I plan to sell it just out of sentimental value. But for now, all it does is collect dust.

Edit: The only time I'd envision using it again would be as a backup weapon in case I decided to be a perfectionist to try and get Butcher 5 on my weapon... but argh, IW on that weapon was so f'in painful (least, my gear wouldn't carry me through it well).

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post Jan 22 2014, 00:13
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QUOTE(reigenxd3 @ Jan 21 2014, 23:02) *

each minute in fight make lose 0.0139 Recovering Stamina

No, this is the other way around: you recover 0.0139 stamina each minute out of combat.
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post Jan 22 2014, 00:27
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Jan 22 2014, 01:13) *

No, this is the other way around: you recover 0.0139 stamina each minute out of combat.

out battle recover
in battle not recover=> lose recover?
or maybe wasted is better word than lose

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post Jan 22 2014, 00:51
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QUOTE(reigenxd3 @ Jan 21 2014, 23:27) *

out battle recover
in battle not recover=> lose recover?
or maybe wasted is better word than lose

You don't recover stamina while in battle, and lose a little bit of it at the end of each round.
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