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post Jan 21 2014, 14:54
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Is there any point to clearing the schoolgirls in difficulty higher than hell? The time it takes to clear get exponentially longer, and drops are pretty much the same, since schoolgirls like to drop their trophies so much. And trophies on hell are the same as trophies on PFUDOR

Sure there's the better arena clear bonus, but spending an extra 1 hour for a most likely shitty drop frankly isn't worth it.

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post Jan 21 2014, 14:57
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QUOTE(reigenxd3 @ Jan 21 2014, 21:54) *

did i get something when my monster win battle?

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post Jan 21 2014, 14:58
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jan 21 2014, 20:54) *

Is there any point to clearing the schoolgirls in difficulty higher than hell? The time it takes to clear get exponentially longer, and drops are pretty much the same, since schoolgirls like to drop their trophies so much. And trophies on hell are the same as trophies on PFUDOR

You sure will get a better arena clear bonus, but that spending an extra 1 hour just a most likely shitty drop frankly isn't worth it.

In the current patch, not worth it I think ......, even TTT (RoB) give me superiors.
I can IW a PxP 320- weapon to max using same amount of time.
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post Jan 21 2014, 15:07
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jan 21 2014, 23:58) *

In the current patch, not worth it I think ......, even TTT (RoB) give me superiors.
I can IW a PxP 320- weapon to max using same amount of time.


Oh yeah another question, which one would you recommend for grinding token, IWBTH IW or Hellfest. I'm having no luck getting token of blood lately (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Jan 21 2014, 15:09
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jan 21 2014, 21:07) *

Oh yeah another question, which one would you recommend for grinding token, IWBTH IW or Hellfest. I'm having no luck getting token of blood lately (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

The easiest way is to clear arena on lowest difficulty. Then move to hellfest.
For better drop, do PF IW/GF.

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post Jan 21 2014, 15:11
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jan 21 2014, 16:14) *

Also, your monster will be one-shot by mage.

I've heard mages sux at early levels (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
+who cares about mages anyway, there are planty of melee players
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post Jan 21 2014, 15:15
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jan 21 2014, 21:11) *

I've heard mages sux at early levels (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
+who cares about mages anyway, there are planty of melee players

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Mage is more common than melee in HV.
One different between mid-level mage and melee is that melee have some chance to clear GF while mage will die somewhere before clearing it.
If you want to have more win, focus on mage should be better.
If you can train your monster to PL1600+, you can ignore my opinion.
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post Jan 21 2014, 15:41
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jan 21 2014, 17:15) *

If you can train your monster to PL1600+, you can ignore my opinion.

Nah, i'm not THAT rich, but imagine the sudden pwnage when somebody would meet such monster at their monster level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 21 2014, 15:47
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jan 21 2014, 16:41) *

Nah, i'm not THAT rich, but imagine the sudden pwnage when somebody would meet such monster at their monster level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

free2play= pay to win (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ?
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post Jan 21 2014, 15:49
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Nah, i'm not THAT rich, but imagine the sudden pwnage when somebody would meet such monster at their monster level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I remember Ichy have made a few fully token upgraded low PL monsters. Not sure are they still at low PL now.
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post Jan 21 2014, 16:36
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should i use stamina for "hard" arena or "Hell" Grindfest?
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post Jan 21 2014, 16:47
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Owyn: For low-level badasses, that used to be somewhat annoying, in the sense of "oh drat this thing keeps preventing me from oneshotting all the rounds" But the difference is not huge, since low level monsters can't scale stats very high. Low level meaning around PL200-350. Nowadays, got to double that PL to get "low level".

As for shorting only out of resistance for higher PL monsters, it is doable - resistance doesn't play nearly as major part in PL as stat - expect most of it's appearances are not in the gap of "can face this and not eat-face-monsters" but past the line of "can face everything".

Some mages do that though for their given element though it doesn't really matter much- even PL1200 Daimons need Chaos to make them register.

@reigenxd3: arena.
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post Jan 21 2014, 17:02
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Jan 21 2014, 14:54) *

Is there any point to clearing the schoolgirls in difficulty higher than hell? The time it takes to clear get exponentially longer, and drops are pretty much the same, since schoolgirls like to drop their trophies so much. And trophies on hell are the same as trophies on PFUDOR

Sure there's the better arena clear bonus, but spending an extra 1 hour for a most likely shitty drop frankly isn't worth it.


No, unless you do it (DwD) at max difficulty and with at least 20 LotD. But yes, you are doing it solely for the arena clear bonus. The drops are pretty good though, out of 5 runs (DwD), I've gotten 3 mag, 2 trashy drops (did it with 17-21 LotD). However it takes a really long time to do, so I wouldn't do it every day unless you can cut the time down. For the other 2 sg arenas, I would only do them on PFU if you can clear DwD on PFU so fast that it isn't a chore.
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post Jan 21 2014, 17:35
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is it possible to clear grindfest in my level?
i kept failing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jan 21 2014, 17:40
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68 is probably way too early.

Your strength will start to scale better as you get higher level and your proficiencies go up. You also get access to better potions, spells (ie. longer durations/stronger effects) not to mention gear.

I think at your level I was getting to like round 30-50 at most before dying.
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post Jan 21 2014, 17:46
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Should I buy saplings?
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post Jan 21 2014, 17:52
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jan 21 2014, 23:46) *

Should I buy saplings?


If you think you're a lucky person. My experience is getting lots of average, superior and some exquisites.

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post Jan 21 2014, 18:04
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jan 21 2014, 01:23) *

if you upgrade a monster with only prymary stat crystals - would he pwn everyone? :3 cuz his stats on the same level compared to others (who leveld monsters with res. crystals) would be significally better - a best way to scare\instakill newbs?


Other than it's obvious weakness to certain elemental attacks?

Or it's very low starting MP/SP & low speed of increasing MP/SP (limiting special skill use)?

QUOTE(HNTI @ Jan 21 2014, 04:19) *

Keep in mind that primary crystals increase monsters' PL faster than resistance ones. Besides, unchaosed monsters are swept under the carpet in no time ( if not one shoted ), so if you think about making it strong, chaos it to the max.


And this... chaos token upgrades are actually more valuable than stat upgrades.

QUOTE(Colman @ Jan 21 2014, 03:48) *

If you do not care if the club is not ethereal, this kind of club is common.
This kind of axe also hardly exceed 100k for a non-IWed one in auction.


I think I'm way too addicted to ethereal. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
As for the other... every weapon I've seen in the past few auctions that would be a notable upgrade for me has quickly shot up over 150k. I got lucky and got the Waki for 30k, but as you said it's not very good.

QUOTE(reigenxd3 @ Jan 21 2014, 06:36) *

should i use stamina for "hard" arena or "Hell" Grindfest?


Arenas will get you better drops and, when you're doing second-page arenas, better xp.
Best xp & drops come from random encounters though.
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post Jan 21 2014, 18:06
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QUOTE(Ennma @ Jan 22 2014, 00:35) *

is it possible to clear grindfest in my level?
i kept failing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I think at least 270~280+ lvl on normal difficulty, with full potions, decent 1H weapon & gears and some tricky experience of playing.
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post Jan 21 2014, 18:10
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does WIS of monsters increase their damage of their magical spells?
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