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thinking cap adds 25% exp bonus, and it cost 250 hath => 10hath(~100k) for each 1% The last level of Adept learner costs only 50k ....

Yeah, but:

Thinking Cap Increases EXP gain by 25%. This increase is applied separately after all other bonuses have been added.

Meaning that if you have Adept Learner lvl 200 and Thinking Cap, and gain 100 exp, it is boosted to 375, not 325.

As to when Thinking Cap becomes cheaper than Adept Learner, some math and formulas are needed.

Edit: Regarding Thinking Cap, I've calculated that it becomes interesting at Adept learner 210 (as in: spending 2,5M credits in Adept Learner isn't as effective as spending the same amount in Thinking Cap), and that it becomes definitely better at Adept learner 249 (as in: the cost per exp gained is just better).

This post has been edited by Dan31: Jan 17 2014, 18:32

Thinking Cap may be 10 hath for each 1%, but last level of Adept learner is actually 0.25% (due the multipliers being 3.99 and 4 from one to next level) for 50k, or 1% for 200k.

There is also how monster damage scales, and their PMI/MMI scale too. Plus you meet nastier monsters sooner if you level faster.

And I'm sort of inbetween - I have the better gear to mage, just haven't put into effort. Before that, I was melee for a good time, but far far less time than I maged - and until the path that fucked mages in three holes at once , I would have paidbetween 2.5 and 8 hath per level, in bulk, to delevel between levels 165 to 293.

Crystarium perks, definitely..

For 24/7 IWBTH players only with monsters they need to upgrade. Otherwise you'll never cover the expenses. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

What's the best IW bonus to have on a weapon? (mace) for light shade armorer

What's the best IW bonus to have on a weapon? (mace) for light shade armorer

Overpower + Fatality. Monster's parry rate on my level is killing me. That's why I'm sorcering now. (IMG:[kolobok.us] http://kolobok.us/smiles/rpg/wizard.gif)

Overpower + Fatality. Monster's parry rate on my level is killing me. That's why I'm sorcering now. (IMG:[kolobok.us] http://kolobok.us/smiles/rpg/wizard.gif)

Overpower isn't really needed when you got a mace.

Overpower isn't really needed when you got a mace.

Or a shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Overpower isn't really needed when you got a mace.

It'd be true if your stun/hit chance was 100%.

Or a shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

We're talking about 2H here. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Laboq: Jan 17 2014, 17:33

Overpower isn't really needed when you got a mace.

It'd be true if your stun/hit chance was 100%.

actually I believe the hit chance is 100% if you hit a monster with domino, recently discovered this tactic - hit only stunned monsters - no problems with parry at all now, and near monsters get stunned also without parry problem.

Fatality

do few % of crit damage really give anything? I think I'd rather have higher crit chance than damage (saves overcharge, more stable high damage)

what about attack speed (swift strike)? I've heard "agile" was very preferable and luckily got myself lvl5 on current weapon http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8a3396cf08

This post has been edited by Owyn: Jan 17 2014, 17:44

It'd be true if your stun/hit chance was 100%.

I think a build with 200% accuracy and 50% crit rate could fix that. On the other hand, 20% counter parry aren't really much.
Has the time of power of balance finally come? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

We're talking about 2H here. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Meh, as a melee he will eventually have to learn to DW and 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jan 17 2014, 17:47

actually I believe the hit chance is 100% if you hit a monster with domino, recently discovered this tactic - hit only stunned monsters - no problems with parry at all now, and near monsters get stunned also without parry problem.
do few % of crit damage really give anything? I think I'd rather have higher crit chance than damage (saves overcharge, more stable high damage)

what about attack speed (swift strike)? I've heard "agile" was very preferable and luckily got myself lvl5 on current weapon http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8a3396cf08

Attack speed is good for a mace, as it can increase the number of attacks you get in while the monsters are stunned. If you go back in this thread about 2-3 months or so, there are some posts where users did the math and found that Fatality is generally preferable to Butcher (there isn't any potency that increases crit chance, so that comparison isn't really valid...).

Finally, the hit chance isn't 100% on a domino strike, they can still evade/parry those. Your tactic is still sound, however, because a domino strike doesn't proc at all if you fail to hit the main target, but it can proc further targets if eluded by a secondary target.

Regarding Thinking Cap, I've calculated that it becomes interesting at Adept learner 210 (as in: spending 2,5M credits in Adept Learner isn't as effective as spending the same amount in Thinking Cap), and that it becomes definitely better at Adept learner 249 (as in: the cost per exp gained is just better).

Assuming you're using a rapier in either/or hand, have you tried waiting for 3x PA on the bosses before using your skills? the increase in damage can be pretty substantial. Of course, if you Club/Rapier, you can try using focus (when enemy is stunned) to regain MP instead of mana pots. It'll just take longer. I haven't used weaken/silence in a long while, so no advice on that from me.

Edit: oh, and OFC really helps in the later rounds. It can clear all the normal mobs, allowing you to concentrate on the girls.

Well apparently the problem is that I'm not using 1h. I switched out my DW and a use a crappy hallowed rapier of slaughter, and breezed through both end of days and eternal darkness BT, which I've never been able to with DW.

Seriously, it's kinda ridiculous, considering how much more I invested into DW (~700k rapier + 50k axe) than into 1H (300k shield + free rapier) and my 1h proficiency isn't even 300 yet O_o

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jan 17 2014, 17:54

Finally, the hit chance isn't 100% on a domino strike, they can still evade/parry those. Your tactic is still sound, however, because a domino strike doesn't proc at all if you fail to hit the main target, but it can proc further targets if eluded by a secondary target.

That's what I said, when "proc further targets" happens - those targets can not evade/parry, so hit is 100% for those via domino.

hit only stunned monsters

But monsters can parry you to death before they got stunned.

Meh, as a melee he will eventually have to learn to DW and 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Too slow against 5+ enemies, IMHO. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

This post has been edited by Laboq: Jan 17 2014, 18:16

That's what I said, when "proc further targets" happens - those targets can not evade/parry, so hit is 100% for those via domino.

The further targets can evade and parry domino strikes; I'm also a mace user and I've noticed it happen.

But monsters can parry you to death before they got stunned.

you mean they can do it not letting me stun even a single monster? +_+

The further targets can evade and parry domino strikes; I'm also a mace user and I've noticed it happen.

Haven't noticted it myself yet, but there are other monsters anyway, if one evades - others get hit and stunned.

I don't have too much problem on procing stun with these stats :

- 24% stun chance on mace
- 45.9% crit chance (without HS)
- 182% hit chance
- 8% anti-parry (OP lv.2)

I doubt the lv.2 OP really help that much; seeing that I can't hit shit with lv.5 OP on an estoc and all... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Should i wear heavy armor or light if im going to play Niten style ._.
Also it seems that i can't find anything else to level up my DW, what's the best DW combo..

you mean they can do it not letting me stun even a single monster? +_+

Yes. I just tried my mace: evade/parry on first hit = you must hit again. And when you do this, monster can parry your attack again. God damn loop. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

11 3 Akys gains the effect Stunned.
11 2 Void Strike hits Akys for 3559 void damage.
11 1 You hit Akys for 5955 void damage.
10 1 Akys evades your attack.
9 3 Your spike shield hits Akys for 5 points of elec damage.
9 2 You parry the attack from Akys.
9 1 Akys parries your attack.
8 3 Your spike shield hits Akys for 5 points of elec damage.
8 2 You parry the attack from Akys.
8 1 Akys evades your attack.
7 1 Akys parries your attack.
6 7 You evade the attack from Akys.
6 6 I Fear Dagger has been defeat

I can't hit shit with lv.5 OP on an estoc and all... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Let me try it (for a 10-15 minutes). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

This post has been edited by Laboq: Jan 17 2014, 18:55