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post Jan 17 2014, 05:40
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QUOTE(ConfusedPerv @ Jan 17 2014, 03:34) *
masters.does innate arcana worth to take for melee type?
i want to get it but i'm not sure it will be useful or not for me,help (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

It's good in general, but is probably even more useful for melee. IA1 and IA2 are a must for high difficulty. IA3 is also valuable. IA4 might be useful if you have the hath to spend on it.
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post Jan 17 2014, 05:48
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QUOTE(blue penguin @ Jan 17 2014, 10:40) *

It's good in general, but is probably even more useful for melee. IA1 and IA2 are a must for high difficulty. IA3 is also valuable. IA4 might be useful if you have the hath to spend on it.



alright,thanks!
now let's activate them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 17 2014, 06:00
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Send me mucho hath for IA1, 2 and 3 and 4?
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post Jan 17 2014, 06:23
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QUOTE(blue penguin @ Jan 17 2014, 05:40) *

It's good in general, but is probably even more useful for melee. IA1 and IA2 are a must for high difficulty. IA3 is also valuable. IA4 might be useful if you have the hath to spend on it.


if I got IA1 & 2, what spells should i put in those slots (for a melee character)?

is it just Protection & Haste? Shadow Veil or Spark of Life or Spirit Shield seems pointless during the beginning of the fight.
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post Jan 17 2014, 07:19
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is it just Protection & Haste? Shadow Veil or Spark of Life or Spirit Shield seems pointless during the beginning of the fight.
yep, pretty much this

IA1 -> haste, there's no better buff than more speed
IA2 -> protection if playing melee or shadow veil if mage (or shade user)
IA3 -> SS, SoL, the other one of shadow veil/protection that is still not there? It depends on what you wanna do. You need a different one depending on the mode you're playing. If you're doing RoB you most probably want SoL, but for GF you will not want either SS or SoL in IA3 as they would be a waste of mana during the first rounds.
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post Jan 17 2014, 07:45
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What makes 1H+sword so safe?

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post Jan 17 2014, 07:58
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@blue_penguin: I wouldn't put Protection on IA2, given it's loooong duration. Biggest benefit of IA is saving you annoyance spending rescasting stuff.

@Gay_Douche: Inbuilt stun+block blocking magic(How? Magic!). Generally fair bit more survivability than DW, even without the stun. On the other hand, I have hard time believing it would be fastest melee style in any circumstance, since well 1h has been long-standing joke.
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post Jan 17 2014, 08:00
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QUOTE(Gay Douche @ Jan 17 2014, 13:45) *

What makes 1H+sword so safe?

Shortsword? no idea.
BTW, if you cannot kill fast, it is not safe.
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post Jan 17 2014, 08:28
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QUOTE(Lement @ Jan 17 2014, 07:58) *

@blue_penguin: I wouldn't put Protection on IA2, given it's loooong duration. Biggest benefit of IA is saving you annoyance spending rescasting stuff.

@Gay_Douche: Inbuilt stun+block blocking magic(How? Magic!). Generally fair bit more survivability than DW, even without the stun. On the other hand, I have hard time believing it would be fastest melee style in any circumstance, since well 1h has been long-standing joke.


so what will you put on your IA2?
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post Jan 17 2014, 08:34
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Scanning I Fear Club...
HP: 4393/9974 MP: 636/658 SP: 498/686
Monster Class: Giant, Power Level 810
Monster Trainer: gc00018
Melee Attack: Crushing
Crushing:
+25%
Slashing:
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Piercing:
-25%

What kind of clubs are piercing damage?
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post Jan 17 2014, 08:41
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QUOTE(evanpiper896 @ Jan 17 2014, 14:34) *

What kind of clubs are piercing damage?

It's just a random name given by its trainer. It doesn't necessarily represent the mob's true nature.
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post Jan 17 2014, 09:03
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@malkatmp: Probably either spirit shield or shadow veil. Honestly, I consider the first to be bit more important with spark being pretty useless spell, but the average benefit per mana would be lower.
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post Jan 17 2014, 09:06
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jan 17 2014, 08:28) *

so what will you put on your IA2?


Regen or Shadow Veil are decent choices as well. They both expire kinda quickly, so you save a lot of rebuffing.

QUOTE(hujan86 @ Jan 17 2014, 08:41) *

It's just a random name given by its trainer. It doesn't necessarily represent the mob's true nature.


Maybe it's bad at dancing? Heheheee (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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Also, as much as 1-Hand is poked fun at, it's gotten REALLY popular lately.
*mumbles something about monster-parry*
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post Jan 17 2014, 09:21
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QUOTE(happy.forum @ Jan 17 2014, 07:06) *

Regen or Shadow Veil are decent choices as well.


If only we could put regen in IA (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Jan 17 2014, 09:34
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(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I...I... I actually don't have IA. I'm a noob.
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post Jan 17 2014, 09:47
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How do you not have even IA1 at lvl 315?
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post Jan 17 2014, 09:56
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I don't have IA1 either because I don't see a real benefit in having 1 spell on autocast with a 10% cost reduction. Probably more mp efficient to just try get channeling for Regen/Heartseeker with the spell I'd put in IA1.

I also don't really see a point in IA until you can get probably 3 right off the bat. The mp savings vs cost just isn't there; probably cheaper to just toss more levels into Pack Rat and use more MP pots.

Edit: And if that was sarcasm, whoosh.... right over my head even with the cat.

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post Jan 17 2014, 10:03
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T_Starrk didn't have IA either, iirc. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) You're correct for minor spells that the channeling benefits more, but you won't always get that. There is also spirit stance benefitting more casting(not that much, you're more time in stance than not) than IA. The main benefit is saving the annoyance of having to recast one of , say, your five fifty-turn duration spells every ten turns.
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post Jan 17 2014, 10:27
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QUOTE(rancidmeat @ Jan 17 2014, 07:56) *

I don't have IA1 either because I don't see a real benefit in having 1 spell on autocast with a 10% cost reduction. Probably more mp efficient to just try get channeling for Regen/Heartseeker with the spell I'd put in IA1.


Like Lement said, not having to rebuff yourself every xx rounds when you're in the higher level arenas/difficulties is handier than you'd think. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE(rancidmeat @ Jan 17 2014, 07:56) *

I also don't really see a point in IA until you can get probably 3 right off the bat. The mp savings vs cost just isn't there; probably cheaper to just toss more levels into Pack Rat and use more MP pots.


That's of course if you dont already have Pack Rat maxed. Which I really hope a lvl 300+ does. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


QUOTE(rancidmeat @ Jan 17 2014, 07:56) *
Edit: And if that was sarcasm, whoosh.... right over my head even with the cat.


I really don't know how you mistook shock for sarcasm. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


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post Jan 17 2014, 10:29
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QUOTE(rancidmeat @ Jan 17 2014, 09:56) *

I don't have IA1 either because I don't see a real benefit in having 1 spell on autocast with a 10% cost reduction. Probably more mp efficient to just try get channeling for Regen/Heartseeker with the spell I'd put in IA1.

I also don't really see a point in IA until you can get probably 3 right off the bat. The mp savings vs cost just isn't there; probably cheaper to just toss more levels into Pack Rat and use more MP pots.



QUOTE(mustardpie @ Jan 17 2014, 10:27) *

Like Lement said, not having to rebuff yourself every xx rounds when you're in the higher level arenas/difficulties is handier than you'd think. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
That's of course if you dont already have Pack Rat maxed. Which I really hope a lvl 300+ does. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
I really don't know how you mistook shock for sarcasm. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


You used to want IA1 because you could put it in SoL and then do REs without buffing or healing. Nowadays it isn't so good but it unlocks the higher level IAs with are extremely powerful, especially for melee.
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