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post Jan 16 2014, 07:09
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QUOTE(stafflism @ Jan 15 2014, 23:20) *

What are the top 2 fastest fighting styles(including Mage) ?

I mean using less time not less turn.

the more expensive, the faster
QUOTE(ConfusedPerv @ Jan 15 2014, 23:50) *

so i finally able to collect 10 tokens of blood,
should i take triple trio and tree?
what fighting styles that is safest for this one?
i want to take it on normal difficulty first,tho,
just for its credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

spirit shield with 2 or more spirit potions make you safe whatever fighting style you use

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post Jan 16 2014, 07:28
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QUOTE(hihohahi @ Jan 16 2014, 11:53) *

Keep them silenced and keep your SOL up at all time = safe.


alrighty,mission accomplished (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
it's kinda easy in normal difficulty,tho

QUOTE(goldminer @ Jan 16 2014, 12:09) *

the more expensive, the faster

spirit shield with 2 or more spirit potions make you safe whatever fighting style you use

sure,thanks mate. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 16 2014, 09:02
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QUOTE(ConfusedPerv @ Jan 16 2014, 07:28) *

alrighty,mission accomplished (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
it's kinda easy in normal difficulty,tho
sure,thanks mate. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

There is always the sleep option. Let's you take PFUDOR TT&T easy.
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post Jan 16 2014, 11:10
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so If you get 80% bindings back, how is it rounded, rounded down I suppose? (e.g. you have 1 binding in item = you salvage it = you get 0 bindings, right?)
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post Jan 16 2014, 11:18
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is there a way to lv down a weapon?

somehow, i manage to get to "Overpower" on almost every lv. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Jan 16 2014, 11:19
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Newbie question:
1.do you see better gear in the bazaar as you level up ?
as in newbie can't see exquisite gear in the shop but higher lv player can, even though they browse the shop at the same time ?

2.Do gears appear in the bazaar because other people sell them or are they random generated by the game ?
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post Jan 16 2014, 11:26
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QUOTE(Marverick @ Jan 16 2014, 01:19) *

Newbie question:
1.do you see better gear in the bazaar as you level up ?
as in newbie can't see exquisite gear in the shop but higher lv player can, even though they browse the shop at the same time ?

2.Do gears appear in the bazaar because other people sell them or are they random generated by the game ?


The Bazaar is a trash bin. If you need to get better equipment, look in the WTS section of the forums; in particular, the shops that distribute free equipment to new players.

Equipment that appears in the Bazaar is sold by other players, and is deleted when its inventory gets to be too large. If I remember correctly, only crystals in the Item Shop are restocked by the system. Equipment access isn't filtered by level.

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post Jan 16 2014, 11:54
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Is there any tip to finish DwD on BT? I barely make it through Hell with DW and power slaughter set-up...

To the people who already got FUS RO DAH, what was your strategy, your set-up, and level when you got it?


I've just managed to finish DwD on IWBTH, at Lv304, DW Light. As Cat Lover says, no real strategy - kill PL monsters first and hammer away at the SG until OC is maxed then use the Iris Strike > Backstab > Frenzied Blow with the Spirit Stance on.

I started playing as I usually do (OC max, Spirit Stance until OC runs out, repeat process) but I quickly realized that I would run out of the HSP long before I get anywhere near the end. At about halfway point, I stopped using Spirit Stance except when I am using the chained attacks, and left the HSP alone for the defence with the Spirit Shield. Of course, I used Focus as often as possible to regain MP and used Weaken only for the deprecating spell.
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post Jan 16 2014, 13:01
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jan 16 2014, 10:10) *

so If you get 80% bindings back, how is it rounded, rounded down I suppose? (e.g. you have 1 binding in item = you salvage it = you get 0 bindings, right?)

You need more than just a binding to do a forge upgrade, there is also metal/wood/leather/cloth. If there were 6 materials used, you should get 4 back, that may or may not include your binding. Or so i think.

QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jan 16 2014, 10:18) *

is there a way to lv down a weapon?

somehow, i manage to get to "Overpower" on almost every lv. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You can reforge it with an amnesia shard. It resets it to lvl 0. There is no way of leveling down a weapon by a fixed amount, it's all or nothing.
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post Jan 16 2014, 13:05
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Concerning High difficulty DwD,

I also use DW Light* for DwD (on PFU), I did however use some strategy. If you have OFC (which you should get), try end each round with >210% overcharge so you can open with spirit stance OFC (or weaken first then OFC), this greatly reduces damage taken as you kill most of the mobs immediately. Also I recommend rationing out your mana and spirit potions. So if you have 10 mana potions, you want to use a mana potion at roughly round 150, 140, 130, 120, 110, 100, 90, 80, 70, 60, and if you get ahead, silence the mob and use focus to catch up.

You can also boost clear speed if you enchant both your weapons with holy and dark infusions but you are gonna need around 3h worth (~48 infusion), depending on your connection to HV.
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post Jan 16 2014, 14:01
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Jan 16 2014, 13:01) *

You can reforge it with an amnesia shard. It resets it to lvl 0. There is no way of leveling down a weapon by a fixed amount, it's all or nothing.


thanks, i might as well do that. or am i missing something about a 2H lv4 Overpower mac?
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post Jan 16 2014, 14:30
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Would this mace be worth it to start leveling up?
Exq Mace Of Slaughter
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post Jan 16 2014, 14:39
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QUOTE(fadefade @ Jan 16 2014, 07:30) *

Would this mace be worth it to start leveling up?
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no, unless you're doing it yourself and you seriously can't afford anything better. it'll take forever though at your level.

try to find an ethereal one if you can; there's a bunch in the auctions as of late
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post Jan 16 2014, 15:02
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Jan 16 2014, 20:54) *

I've just managed to finish DwD on IWBTH, at Lv304, DW Light. As Cat Lover says, no real strategy - kill PL monsters first and hammer away at the SG until OC is maxed then use the Iris Strike > Backstab > Frenzied Blow with the Spirit Stance on.

I started playing as I usually do (OC max, Spirit Stance until OC runs out, repeat process) but I quickly realized that I would run out of the HSP long before I get anywhere near the end. At about halfway point, I stopped using Spirit Stance except when I am using the chained attacks, and left the HSP alone for the defence with the Spirit Shield. Of course, I used Focus as often as possible to regain MP and used Weaken only for the deprecating spell.


QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Jan 16 2014, 13:15) *

Saving mana is the issue for melee to clear marathons and XXfest...
As you know, basically you can save mana with these:

- IA (at least 3+), RR, high WIS
- High proficiency of Supportive and Deprecating
- Cast Regen and Heartseeker with Spirit Stance (or Channeling as far as possible)
- Minimize using buffs and debuffs (including Cure)
- Offense and defense (It may sound weird, but it's true. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif))
- Use Focus (Minimize if you want to clear fast...)

It is an overall and composite matter, so I can't say a certain element or factor is the exact cause or not.

Here's some generic advices:
If your defense (PMI, MMI, Evade/Block/Parry/Resist, specific mitigation, and Attack Speed) is too low, you would use Cure more frequently and your SP might be insufficient with Spirit Shield.
Raising your specific mitigation by IWing gears is the cheapest (free if you do it yourself) way to increase defense against monster's MP/SP attack.
Only 5 levels per gear gives +20% to specific mitigations (including spike shield) on average.
And +20% to all specific mitigations is similar to that you gain more MMI, like from 60% to 68%. (yes, except void though)
VV helps to keep HP high and save MP and SP. I think it's very efficient and relatively inexpensive Hath perk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
In case of debuffs, Weaken or Silence may be a must when 2 or more SGs are shown.
But only "debuff once or twice per round" is enough. Raise your dep. proficiency to increase duration and counter-resist.
Imperil is a waste of MP with rapier. Why do you use it?
You can easily balance your MP and SP with Spirit Theft.

Well... if you feel really insufficient your MP, using focus before 88 (2 SGs) or 113 (3 SGs) round is unavoidable to clear DwD.
Good Luck~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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I'd say that FRD also deserves consideration, but OFC is much better when doing Hellfest or IW.


Thanks for the advice. I will report back when I can afford the time to try. I'm still clearing PFUDOR pre-marathon arena at such a snail pace that I barely got time to attempt DwD :/

Anyway, lately I find this game more fun to script than to play O_o

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post Jan 16 2014, 17:07
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btw, all upgrades (with bindings) stay when you reforge something ,right?
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post Jan 16 2014, 17:12
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jan 16 2014, 23:07) *

btw, all upgrades (with bindings) stay when you reforge something ,right?


Yup
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post Jan 16 2014, 17:38
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btw, after starting clearing randoms on PFUDOR found weaken extremely usefull, now instead of sudden spark-procs I do weakens to weaken everyone and they behave like puppies now :3

are there other usefull spells I don't know about? *Found full-cure spell recently, lol, now I don't need to carry health pots for insurance to battle O_o

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post Jan 16 2014, 18:02
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Found full-cure spell recently, lol, now I don't need to carry health pots for insurance to battle O_o

i can't find it... what proficiency do you need?
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post Jan 16 2014, 18:06
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wiki says 200, but I have only 170 and have it
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post Jan 16 2014, 18:10
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jan 16 2014, 17:06) *

wiki says 200, but I have only 170 and have it

i have 190 and still can't see it... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

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