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I see, im looking into someone iwing my longsword atm, why is longsword bad? is estocs/rapiers pierced armor that good?

Longsword is good for fast clear in lower difficulty (ie. less than 10 turns to clear a round). There's also a playstyle using OFC, though it's more common with 1H axe than 2h longsword. Estoc/rapier are good whenever it takes more than 5 turns to kill a monster, which happens quite often in marathon/high difficulty.

However, estoc ceases to be good when you start to encounter fully-chaosed custom monsters who will parry/evade everything you throw at them, making mace the new flavor of the month for 2-handers, because stunned monsters can't parry/evade anymore. Either way, 2H has always been bad with schoolgirl arena; 1h rapier and DW club/rapier are much more efficient.

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jan 15 2014, 04:48

I'm at lv 220, should I start changing my equip from exq to mag?

thanks for the leggings Drakewyn!
how much do you think my Magnificent Etheral Longsword of Slaughter is worth btw, just realized i could have sold my winter stuff for like 400k credits, i used those before i checked the price, but at least i got that sword

I think it worth 200k or less, because it is lacking STR.
For IW service, if you are not in hurry, I can do it with 150k, finish within 3 days. Can only guarantee a specific stat up to lv 3 (reforge at LV2). And I can lend you one of the longsword during the IW if you need.

I think it worth 200k or less, because it is lacking STR.
For IW service, if you are not in hurry, I can do it with 150k, finish within 3 days. Can only guarantee a specific stat up to lv 3 (reforge at LV2). And I can lend you one of the longsword during the IW if you need.

yea im not in a hurry in the slightest my playing of this game is usually marked by a day until i get to 80 sta and then come back in a while

@tailor64,

Why do you have so much ability points lying around, you should pour it into Better HP which will probably let you keep on fighting 2 or 3 turns longer before resorting to pots.

Why play GF at all? The best chance for good drops, credits and exp occurs in the Arena and the RE. Just play these venue as much as possible at the hardest level possible. But remember with the Arena, if you don't finish you don't get your clearance bonus.

about IW - how do you guys do it (yourself)?
on IWBTH+?
and pwning every round of it?
is only heavy+1H viable for it? (looks like a cheat-build to pwn everything), cause I don't last many rounds on IWBTH+ without considerable amount of pots and spark-procs (but can always clear randoms on PFUDOR (which is great cuz I hate doing arenas and other many-round ones))

how much IWing services cost nowadays btw (cost-wise ones)? I checked it right after update - and barely anyone adjusted prices yet =\

For IW service, if you are not in hurry, I can do it with 150k, finish within 3 days. Can only guarantee a specific stat up to lv 3 (reforge at LV2). And I can lend you one of the longsword during the IW if you need.

Am I a big enough newb to have such service? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Owyn: Jan 15 2014, 10:12

about IW - how do you guys do it (yourself)?
on IWBTH+?
and pwning every round of it?
is only heavy+1H viable for it? (looks like a cheat-build to pwn everything), cause I don't last many rounds on IWBTH+ without considerable amount of pots and spark-procs (but can always clear randoms on PFUDOR (which is great cuz I hate doing arenas and other many-round ones))

how much IWing services cost nowadays btw (cost-wise ones)? I checked it right after update - and barely anyone adjusted prices yet =\
Am I a big enough newb to have such service? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

1hand is cheating in your eyes?

i still remember the time as it was 50 % Counter-Attack on block/parry and not 75% also 25%
% Overwhelming Strikes on hit and not 30% like it is now, for all this buffs, tower shild got removed aswell the barrier suffix on them, kite shild also no longer roll barrier..... not that kites was ever any usefull..... also no shild armor (i dont mean shilding prefix what we have now), even more funny in combo with barrier suffix, new force shild are cool if legend, i say legend coz only then the block is good enough to beat (or have about the same block) as the old towers, but yeah with this low burden on the force useing a feather makes it really nice for shade user... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I see you people are always talking about doing DW while doing the marathons. What weapons are needed DW and why is DW so good for marathons?

This post has been edited by Gay Douche: Jan 15 2014, 10:45

about IW - how do you guys do it (yourself)?
on IWBTH+?
and pwning every round of it?
is only heavy+1H viable for it? (looks like a cheat-build to pwn everything), cause I don't last many rounds on IWBTH+ without considerable amount of pots and spark-procs (but can always clear randoms on PFUDOR (which is great cuz I hate doing arenas and other many-round ones))

how much IWing services cost nowadays btw (cost-wise ones)? I checked it right after update - and barely anyone adjusted prices yet =\
Am I a big enough newb to have such service? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

IWBTH IW is not that difficult now compare to before. I can clear it with estoc/longsword/1H.
Though I prefer 1H as I can multi-task easier.

The cost of IW is much lower than before, but I guess it should be at least 10c/PxP. The cost is calculated from the crystal different between GF and IW.
Well, I do not care 100-200k credits much, so my pricing is more depend my mood rather than the cost.

I see you people are always talking about doing DW while doing the marathons. What weapons are needed DW and why is DW so good for marathons?

DW is good for SG arena because it provide the highest single target damage. With rapier as offhand weapon, you do not even need imperil.

If your defense is not high enough, you can go for club/rapier. If you want highest damage, axe/rapier is a good choice. Of course, they are slaughter/balance (main hand/offhand) .

This post has been edited by Colman: Jan 15 2014, 10:48

how much IWing services cost nowadays btw (cost-wise ones)? I checked it right after update - and barely anyone adjusted prices yet =\

Wat you must be blind, pre-patch everyone was doing it for 28 per pxp, then midnight came along and offered 22 per pxp and then there was a price war of sorts, people start lowering their price to match but never lower than 22 per pxp until post-patch aficaworm offered 20 per pxp for leg. and 18 per pxp for exq. ,this was the lower price ever but he has since discountinued IW service. Now, the cheapest is probably Reimu Harukei at a flat 20 per pxp.

Thus I deduce midnight was the reason prices weren't lower post-patch because he already initiated a price revolution just before the patch and let's be honest, any cheaper than 20 per pxp and they are probably eating dirt.

Interesting enough, ace amuro actually charge 40 per pxp post-patch, I don't know what extra he offers to want to charge so much.

Edit:

Anyway, if Colman can be kept permanently in a good mood and decides to commercially offer 10 per pxp, we would see another major price drop if the other's want to stay relevant in the IW buiness.

And special mention that "I forgot who" is doing lvl.0-10 for 150k for equip pxp <320

This post has been edited by LOL50015: Jan 15 2014, 10:49

Interesting enough, ace amuro actually charge 40 per pxp post-patch, I don't know what extra he offers to want to charge so much.

Edit:

Anyway, if Colman can be kept permanently in a good mood and decides to commercially offer 10 per pxp, we would see another major price drop if the other's want to stay relevant in the IW buiness.

And special mention that "I forgot who" is doing lvl.0-10 for 150k for equip pxp <320

You did not consider speed in your calculation. If someone want Lv5 eco on thier staff. 100+ IWBTH runs is required. And for me, it will take around 2-3 weeks, assuming I will not give up mid-way.

This post has been edited by Colman: Jan 15 2014, 10:54

i say legend coz only then the block is good enough to beat (or have about the same block) as the old towers, but yeah with this low burden on the force useing a feather makes it really nice for shade user... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

So light + 1H+shield isn't totally a waste of time and effort? Cause evasion doesn't proc counter-attacks

So light + 1H+shield isn't totally a waste of time and effort? Cause evasion doesn't proc counter-attacks

As least you won't get hit 95%+ of the times (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . But My 1H leather set show me that it is so slow................. it require 4 hours (2 hit/second) to clear Hellfest. (2.5 hours for 1H heavy)

I'm at lv 220, should I start changing my equip from exq to mag?

You should start upgrading whenever you can afford it (and something good for your playstyle show up). Past level 200, gear is probably the highest contributor to damage and survival.

Speaking of IWing, any recommendations for going for econ 5 on legendary shocking staff?

I'm saving up the cash and the amnesia shards and I am looking for someone willing to do the reset conditions that we were talking about earlier in the thread,

resetting at 3 if not econ 2, resetting 5 if not econ 3, and resetting at 7 if not econ 4. Working out the price might be pain the arse, unless you can just count runs.

DW is good for SG arena because it provide the highest single target damage. With rapier as offhand weapon, you do not even need imperil.

If your defense is not high enough, you can go for club/rapier. If you want highest damage, axe/rapier is a good choice. Of course, they are slaughter/balance (main hand/offhand) .

axe/rapier are meh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) , iwbth and even more on pfudor for schoolgirls. parrys are a big matter.... who realy annoys,
why not try club/rapier since it do a way better job, coz the stun provide anti parry and yeah you dont get raped from a stuned girl do you?
axe might be cool from dmg and bleed point ,but they suck the higher difficulty you try on.

So light + 1H+shield isn't totally a waste of time and effort? Cause evasion doesn't proc counter-attacks

if light is a waste or not, depends on somuch. if you go for fleet or even better SD it will work fine what you can see on him...link>> jenga201
but yeah he put alot time/work into it.... if leather, oh boy it might be cheap but it lacks so much offense what shade could provide way better (offense aswell defense),
personaly i would not look for any piece of leather. shade yeah (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ... maybe got very picky over the years... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) but never forget to balance what time you want to invest in long term, you might be get bored, or a patch shows up who made all work for nothing, aslong you keep something from everything to use, you will be fine.

axe/rapier are meh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) , iwbth and even more on pfudor for schoolgirls. parrys are a big matter.... who realy annoys,
why not try club/rapier since it do a way better job, coz the stun provide anti parry and yeah you dont get raped from a stuned girl do you?
axe might be cool from dmg and bleed point ,but they suck the higher difficulty you try on.

The schoolgirls themselves don't parry all that much though. I don't think they got any chaos upgrade as you level up.

the stun is meant for the chaosed custom monster

if light is a waste or not, depends on somuch. if you go for fleet or even better SD it will work fine what you can see on him...link>> jenga201

what's the big deal in a 200% hit chance, by the way? what does this add compared to, say, 150%-ish?

what's the big deal in a 200% hit chance, by the way? what does this add compared to, say, 150%-ish?

With 200% accuracy, monsters can't evade your attacks.

if light is a waste or not, depends on somuch.

I'm pretty happy with my shade shadowdancer set, but question was not about light armor itself but about using it instead of heavy one with shield and 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Owyn: Jan 15 2014, 15:44