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I'm finnally able to do all pre-schoolgirl arenas on IWBTH with mace+full power. And it's so DAMN SLOW, partly due to my shitty ping (DW with axe/rapier is even slower). Should I invest more into melee, and am I better off becoming a mage :/ Can I expect better result with mage with same credit investment ?

If you are just interested in low level arena (BT-), then go for mage. If you want a mage set for IWBTH arena (for T&T +), the bare minimum is Ex phase set + Ex rod with some forge, which should cost you a few M. It will cost more if you are in hurry.

BTW, have you try 1H with force shield (50%+ block). It is faster than mace in my case.

This post has been edited by Colman: Jan 5 2014, 10:35

If you are just interested in low level arena (BT-), then go for mage. If you want a mage set for IWBTH arena (for T&T +), the bare minimum is Ex phase set + Ex rod with some forge, which should cost you a few M. It will cost more if you are in hurry.

Why do I need forging? Is it more cost efficient than just aiming straigth for Mag staff? I'm not in a hurry, since my melee set is still doing okay, as slow as it is. Money is not really a problem with my current earning rate. I just need to hold off on my training impulse and liquefy my trophies (Come to think of it, I need to start working on my MoogleSpam script so I could open a shop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) )

And if Ex phase + Ex staff can clear T&T on BT in less than 1 hour, that's more than I could hope for. xD

BTW, have you try 1H with force shield (50%+ block). It is faster than mace in my case.

No, not yet, since I don't have eth rapier slaughter nor force shield, it would be significant investment :/

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jan 5 2014, 10:50

Why do I need forging? Is it more cost efficient than just aiming straigth for Mag staff? I'm not in a hurry, since my melee set is still doing okay, as slow as it is. Money is not really a problem with my current earning rate. I just need to hold off on my training impulse T.T

And if Ex phase + Ex staff can clear T&T on BT in less than 1 hour, that's more than I could hope for. xD

Ex is the minimum does not mean you have to choose Ex.
Also, the price slope is very steep for mag+ rod. FYI, in the last gc auction:

No.18 Legendary Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction (Weapon - Staff) [Owner: eddie2161 ]
Current bid: 10000k danixxx
No.19 Magnificent Hallowed Katalox Staff of Destruction (Weapon - Staff) [Owner: n125 ]
Current bid: 2000k o10748
No.20 Magnificent Arctic Redwood Staff of Niflheim (Weapon - Staff) [Owner: Blue Sunshine ]
Current bid: 200k fyttm 13:49
No.21 Exquisite Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall (Weapon - Staff) [Owner: xcellcell ]
Current bid: 50k RichardLin
No.22 Exquisite Shocking Redwood Staff of Destruction (Weapon - Staff) [Owner: airis0109 ]
Current bid:
No.23 Exquisite Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction (Weapon - Staff) [Owner: 32240 ]
Current bid: 50k Asteriskboy

You can choose between Ex rod with some forge or Mag+ rod with less forge.

Ex is the minimum does not mean you have to choose Ex.
Also, the price slope is very steep for mag+ rod. FYI, in the last gc auction:

No.18 Legendary Tempestuous Willow Staff of Destruction (Weapon - Staff) [Owner: eddie2161 ]
Current bid: 10000k danixxx
No.19 Magnificent Hallowed Katalox Staff of Destruction (Weapon - Staff) [Owner: n125 ]
Current bid: 2000k o10748
No.20 Magnificent Arctic Redwood Staff of Niflheim (Weapon - Staff) [Owner: Blue Sunshine ]
Current bid: 200k fyttm 13:49
No.21 Exquisite Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall (Weapon - Staff) [Owner: xcellcell ]
Current bid: 50k RichardLin
No.22 Exquisite Shocking Redwood Staff of Destruction (Weapon - Staff) [Owner: airis0109 ]
Current bid:
No.23 Exquisite Demonic Willow Staff of Destruction (Weapon - Staff) [Owner: 32240 ]
Current bid: 50k Asteriskboy

You can choose between Ex rod with some forge or Mag+ rod with less forge.

So ex with forge is more cost efficient than Mag? Why is forging so important for mages anyway?

Maybe I should consider forging my mace? Though I'd prefer to do it on a mag eth mace (There hasn't been one in auction for 5 weeks >.> )

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jan 5 2014, 10:59

And if Ex phase + Ex staff can clear T&T on BT in less than 1 hour, that's more than I could hope for. xD

That's... odd.

How long does it take for you to do it with melee, anyway? And how much is your ping. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

That's... odd.

How long does it take for you to do it with melee, anyway? And how much is your ping. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I have only attempted T&T on Hell, and it's already 2hours (or 1.75 hours?) . My ping is 400ms

EDIT: oh wait, I was thinking D&D all along .... what I said was for D&D. T&T should be 2-2.5 hours on BT

And well I was hoping that scripting would speed up maging even more. There's really not much room to improve on melee clear, while mage has a lot.

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jan 5 2014, 11:09

I have only attempted T&T on Hell, and it's already 2hours (or 1.75 hours?) . My ping is 400ms

EDIT: oh wait, I was thinking D&D all along .... what I said was for D&D. T&T should be 2-2.5 hours on BT

And well I was hoping that scripting would speed up maging even more. There's really not much room to improve on melee clear, while mage has a lot.

When my ping is around 450ms (now ), I clear PF TT in 30 min with 1H......why yours so slow?
browser too many plugin?

T&T should be 2-2.5 hours on BT

It took me ~16-18 minute on PFUDOR using mace, with ~250-300ms ping.

Granted that my gear are probably better than yours and with faster ping time, but that alone doesn't seem to explains the ~6 fold increased in time it took you to do it on lower difficulty setting... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

My ping regarding HV is 51ms but I can only do about 2 actions per seconds because my computer is a bit slow. Meh.

When my ping is around 450ms (now ), I clear PF TT in 30 min with 1H......why yours so slow?
browser too many plugin?

My browser plugins affects very little of my loading speed. I know cos I just profile the web page loading just now. The POST method and 77.js (HV's own javascript) took freaking 1.5s (800-1000ms transmission delay -> this is due to my ping 400*2, 500ms for processing) on average just to send and receive packets O_o My plugins contribute like 1ms. Heck even if I enable HVStat, it only contribute 10ms to the delay (half of which was caused by jQuery lol xD)

Btw I can't even clear Exile (70 rounds) on BT in that time. Took me 45 mins T.T

Here's what I'm using

Mace
Helmet
Body
Hands
Legs
Feet

I know they're far from optimal, that's why I'm asking if I invest more money, or am I just better off being mage.

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jan 5 2014, 12:31

Hello. I am having a lot of trouble with this game and it's very hard and I feel like I'm doing something wrong. I put it on battletoads during my random encounters because I die 90% of the time when I put it on IWTBTH and only 20% of the time on battletoads. The only other thing I do is arena which I put on normal and it's still very difficult for me. I have no idea how I am supposed to advance to a point where I can do any arena on anything higher than normal.

character screen
[puu.sh] http://puu.sh/6afRn.png

weapon
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4e7d28abcb

helmet
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d473ba496e

body
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=eaa30ddc52

hands
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9af5dbd0f7

legs
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8d1296c756

feet
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e1c41351d5

Hello there, I've just played HV not so long ago, so there's many thing to ask the experts, please dont mind explaining to me, in order. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (and I'm at level 40)

1/ Should I become a melee or a mage, what primary attributes should I increase for each type ?
2/ Weapon: Stun, Penetrated armor or Bleeding wound ? What's the advantage of each type ? Should I buy weapon, or armor from shop or battling grindfest, arena ?
3/ What ability should I learn ?
4/ What training should I spend credits on ?
5/ Monster lab: It getting a monster important ? Should I keep spending credit on level-up my 1 monster (he's now at 64) or get more monsters ? How to get chaos token ? Because it's really rare, I only get 1 until now.
5/ Item World: I tried leveling one of my weapon, but it's not effected much, so, how stuff work ?

That's all for now, I'd be really appreciated if they're all answered.

It took me ~16-18 minute on PFUDOR using mace, with ~250-300ms ping.

Granted that my gear are probably better than yours and with faster ping time, but that alone doesn't seem to explains the ~6 fold increased in time it took you to do it on lower difficulty setting... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

18*60/110 = 9.18s per round

Assuming that each action took you 1s to execute, each round only took you ~9 turns to clear? I need 50 on average (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Even the early rounds take between 10-20 turns to clear.

Would you mind posting your gear? I might just stick with melee after all lol

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jan 5 2014, 12:27

Hello. I am having a lot of trouble with this game and it's very hard and I feel like I'm doing something wrong. I put it on battletoads during my random encounters because I die 90% of the time when I put it on IWTBTH and only 20% of the time on battletoads. The only other thing I do is arena which I put on normal and it's still very difficult for me. I have no idea how I am supposed to advance to a point where I can do any arena on anything higher than normal.

Get better equipment, if your gear is good enough you can do IWBTH from the get go. You should be atleast wearing full Exquisite for IWBTH to be bearable. Get an ethereal weapon if possible, maces are good if you have trouble staying alive. Estocs are very dangerous without good armor or high level to back you up.

Hello there, I've just played HV not so long ago, so there's many thing to ask the experts, please dont mind explaining to me, in order. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (and I'm at level 40)

1/ Should I become a melee or a mage, what primary attributes should I increase for each type ?
2/ Weapon: Stun, Penetrated armor or Bleeding wound ? What's the advantage of each type ? Should I buy weapon, or armor from shop or battling grindfest, arena ?
3/ What ability should I learn ?
4/ What training should I spend credits on ?
5/ Monster lab: It getting a monster important ? Should I keep spending credit on level-up my 1 monster (he's now at 64) or get more monsters ? How to get chaos token ? Because it's really rare, I only get 1 until now.
5/ Item World: I tried leveling one of my weapon, but it's not effected much, so, how stuff work ?

That's all for now, I'd be really appreciated if they're all answered.

1. Whatever floats your boat: Melee is very easy to pick up, while mage requires more effort to play. Melee clears relatively slow, but because you can just mash the numpad it's not that much slower than mage. Mages need less turns to clear a round. For Melee, STR, DEX and END are most important, followed by AGI. WIS is good for mana regen, INT can stay at a low level since it does not add anything to melee. For Mage, prioritize INT, WIS and AGI; END and DEX are good to a lesser extent, while STR is mostly useless.

2. Stun is the safest, the enemies can do nothing while they are stunned, allowing you to do extra damage without taking damage in return. Penetrated Armor is good at later levels at high difficulties, it lowers the armor of your enemies, making you do more damage. Bleeding wounds does some damage over time, usually only taken when raw damage is needed.

3. All general abilities, all abilities in the fighting style you use. All supportive abilities you use.

4. Adept learner, Pack Rat and Ability Boost. Later on Luck of the Draw and the extra drop chance trainings.

5. Not really, monsters give you items from time to time. They cost a lot of crystals to get them to a high level though, and the stuff they give you at lower levels is rather bad most of the time. Put your credits in training and equipment if possible, if you have some spare crystals you can use them on your monster. Chaos tokens just drop randomly during battle, and they usually drop at the end of an Arena.

5. You need to do a couple of runs to increase it by a level, every level adds a potency. The bonuses are very small (2-4%), it's usually not worth doing Item World at lower levels.
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Item_World#Item_Potency

Also, check out one of the free shops in the WTS section, they have some decent starter gear if you need them.

This post has been edited by erwtsnert: Jan 5 2014, 12:56

@ holy_demon

~1.5-2 turn/sec

1-5 mob ~10-15 t
6-10 mob ~15-30 t

This one for instance: 1-99 = ~16 minute, the TTT fight alone took about 3 minute though, because I was trying hard to break the record of 65 turn— which I failed... again! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Would you mind posting your gear? I might just stick with melee after all lol

Sure— why would I mind, anyway? ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

[TH-M-01] Legendary Ethereal Mace of Slaughter
[H-P-01] Magnificent Power Helmet of Slaughter
[H-P-02] Legendary Mithril Power Armor of Balance
[H-P-03] Legendary Power Gauntlets of Balance
[H-P-04] Exquisite Power Leggings of Slaughter
[H-P-05] Exquisite Power Boots of Balance

This post has been edited by buktore: Jan 5 2014, 13:03

Get better equipment, if your gear is good enough you can do IWBTH from the get go. You should be atleast wearing full Exquisite for IWBTH to be bearable. Get an ethereal weapon if possible, maces are good if you have trouble staying alive. Estocs are very dangerous without good armor or high level to back you up.

How do I tell what equipment is good to buy? I'll go through the forum looking for an ethereal mace.

@ holy_demon

~1.5-2 turn/sec

1-5 mob ~10-15 t
6-10 mob ~15-30 t

How to count rounds per second (the easiest and most available method), and how to find out ping specifically for HentaiVerse?

@ holy_demon

~1.5-2 turn/sec

1-5 mob ~10-15 t
6-10 mob ~15-30 t

This one for instance: 1-99 = ~16 minute, the TTT fight alone took about 3 minute though, because I was trying hard to break the record of 65 turn— which I failed... again! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
Sure— why would I mind, anyway? ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

[TH-M-01] Legendary Ethereal Mace of Slaughter
[H-P-01] Magnificent Power Helmet of Slaughter
[H-P-02] Legendary Mithril Power Armor of Balance
[H-P-03] Legendary Power Gauntlets of Balance
[H-P-04] Exquisite Power Leggings of Slaughter
[H-P-05] Exquisite Power Boots of Balance

In comparison my TTT fight usually goes into the 300-something round turn lol.

And it's 1-2s/turn with me xD I suppose my internet is less stable than yours, being on mobile broadband

How much total phys dam do you have btw? At my level your set would probablly give me around 6000. That's only 500 more, though your set has more crit. I suppose the 50 levels difference and all those crits are the reason. I recalled struggling with even Nintendo back when I was 250, after all.

Guess I will keep sticking with melee for a while, until 350 that is xD

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Jan 5 2014, 13:27

how many artifacts could you expect in a complete grindfest?

how many pieces of equipment drop?

roughly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

4~6 artifacts on average, 8 when lucky. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
In case of equipment, not exact but 50~100 pieces.
About 40~50k credits total by selling exq-crappy ones to bazzar.

How do I tell what equipment is good to buy? I'll go through the forum looking for an ethereal mace.

The quality prefix is the most important one, you should be aiming for Exquisite gear atleast. Seeing as you wear shade, you should want to grab Shade with the Shadowdancer and Fleet suffixes. In general comparing the base stats of the piece of equipment to the maximum values possible is a good way of determining whether a piece of equipment is good or not. For Shade, the evade and Physical Mitigation stats are important, aswell as the Primary Attributes.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges_Light

and how to find out ping specifically for HentaiVerse?

Open command prompt and type (without the quotation marks) "ping hentaiverse.org"

This post has been edited by erwtsnert: Jan 5 2014, 13:28