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post Jan 2 2014, 17:48
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jan 2 2014, 07:20) *

is there a special trick in defeating "Triple Trio and The Tree" in the Ring of Blood? i taken out "Yggdrasil" the healing one first, but after 3 tires, still died after killing 5-6 of them.

after a while, it seems like there's a few monsters that can 1 hit kill me even on normal and i don't have that many "shield" or spirit to last that long.


Silence & Sleep are your friends.

That and Stun.

Honestly, I almost always leave Yggdrasil until last... I use Ethereal Mace. Used to keep Scroll of Life up (better chance of it going off than self-cast spell). Always keep Absorb up, if you can.
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post Jan 2 2014, 17:59
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Jan 2 2014, 17:48) *

Silence & Sleep are your friends.

That and Stun.

Honestly, I almost always leave Yggdrasil until last... I use Ethereal Mace. Used to keep Scroll of Life up (better chance of it going off than self-cast spell). Always keep Absorb up, if you can.


but i always thought Absorb is useless, no? or what does it really do other than more mp? when it absorb a spell does it do no damage?
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post Jan 2 2014, 18:00
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QUOTE(Valkrey @ Jan 2 2014, 18:11) *

Regen has never been slottable in IA

What is the idea behind this? It will be too "no brain" play style?

QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jan 2 2014, 19:59) *

but i always thought Absorb is useless, no?

I also rarely use it, so I also wonder.

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post Jan 2 2014, 18:31
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finally did it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

thanks for everyone's advice. though, still didn't use absorb, but silence & sleep are quite useful. Used 2 Herotic Health Potions & 4 Great Mana Potions, and a lot of time hacking those monster's HP down. seriously, some of them have shit-ton of HP.

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post Jan 2 2014, 18:41
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jan 2 2014, 11:31) *

finally did it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

thanks for everyone's advice. though, still didn't use absorb, but silence & sleep are quite useful. Used 2 Herotic Health Potions & 4 Great Mana Potions, and a lot of time hacking those monster's HP down. seriously, some of them have shit-ton of HP.

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post Jan 2 2014, 18:55
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http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Supportive_Magic
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/scroll#Scrolls

Absorb negates the damage of (possibly multiple) spell when it procs and partially convert them to mana for you. Just remember that both spell and scroll versions' effects are permanent, but scroll has 100% to proc whereas spell's chance is only up to 90%. Also, you can't Absorb spells that are crits.

A monster is shown to cast spell when it's action is "casts", NOT "uses", like this:
Ushijima 1129 casts Shameless Copyright Claim, and hits you for 2988 dark damage

In difficulties other than PFUDOR, monsters either use their spells too little or die too fast for Absorb to really be effective. You can still use Absorb when a Channeling pops up and no buff needs to be refreshed for some free mana I guess. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Jan 2 2014, 19:00
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^thanks for the explanation.

but is there a reason to revisit Ring of Blood again? the token cost are pretty high and the rewards are pretty low, aside from 1000 credits & boss drops.
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post Jan 2 2014, 19:03
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Save the Blood Tokens for the Flying Spaghetti Monster challenge. The titular monster once defeated drops a Noodly Appendage, which is a trophy with high (?) chance for quality equipment when shrined and can be sold for 55kC to a few WTB threads. After you have done all other challenges for the 1st clear bonuses of course.


About Noodly Appendages: IMO you should sell them all away. The chance of getting something good from it is not worth the solid cash that could be swiftly converted from it. Only the super riches purchase them to shrine them.

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post Jan 2 2014, 19:28
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My last 50 noodly give me nothing useful....
My last 20 PF TTT give me a few Exq armor (non rare) and 30% sup grade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (23/25 LotD).

I cannot tell which choice is better.........
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post Jan 2 2014, 19:41
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Jan 2 2014, 19:03) *

Save the Blood Tokens for the Flying Spaghetti Monster challenge. The titular monster once defeated drops a Noodly Appendage, which is a trophy with high (?) chance for quality equipment when shrined and can be sold for 55kC to a few WTB threads. After you have done all other challenges for the 1st clear bonuses of course.
About Noodly Appendages: IMO you should sell them all away. The chance of getting something good from it is not worth the solid cash that could be swiftly converted from it. Only the super riches purchase them to shrine them.


thanks, didn't know "Noodly Appendages" are worth that much. i got one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 2 2014, 19:42
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edit: double post. ops...

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post Jan 2 2014, 19:48
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jan 3 2014, 00:28) *

My last 50 noodly give me nothing useful....

It shows that you are lenient with your pocket enough to spend around 2.7mC on gambling. In short, you are rich. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


Edit: Colman, do you remember how much damage (projected to your level, not base) that you got on your Axe 2 from 6 levels of physical damage upgrade?

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post Jan 2 2014, 19:56
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Jan 2 2014, 20:41) *

thanks, didn't know "Noodly Appendages" are worth that much. i got one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


I sell them for 5 Hath, what is more than enough for me.
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post Jan 2 2014, 20:22
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3 7 I Do Not Fear Scythe casts Wind, but is absorbed. You gain 18 Magic Points.
3 6 Fiamma Of The Right casts Holy Right, but is absorbed. You gain 20 Magic Points.
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post Jan 2 2014, 20:40
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From wiki: The chance for a proficiency gain decreases as the proficiency approaches the cap.

Can anyone give some numbers? If a chance is much lower, I better play with 1H for some time, because my 2H is close to the cap.
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post Jan 2 2014, 20:53
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QUOTE(LazyShd @ Jan 2 2014, 10:40) *

From wiki: The chance for a proficiency gain decreases as the proficiency approaches the cap.

Can anyone give some numbers? If a chance is much lower, I better play with 1H for some time, because my 2H is close to the cap.


It only matters if you know you're going to use both styles.

I did a very small amount of 1h when I started, but never went back to it. Now I switch between 2h & DW... and my 2h still goes up even though I've got over 200 skill.
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post Jan 2 2014, 20:55
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QUOTE(LazyShd @ Jan 2 2014, 11:40) *

From wiki: The chance for a proficiency gain decreases as the proficiency approaches the cap.

Can anyone give some numbers? If a chance is much lower, I better play with 1H for some time, because my 2H is close to the cap.


Not really, since proc gains increase by level until a certain point(the Cap)so it isn't really possible, even if you look in the wiki it gives ??? next to the equipment for maximum Proc. so its to hard to say what the cap is to give accurate numbers. basically you will know when you completely stop seeing the bold text in battle that you have capped.
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post Jan 2 2014, 21:36
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Jan 2 2014, 07:48) *

Silence & Sleep are your friends.

That and Stun.

Honestly, I almost always leave Yggdrasil until last... I use Ethereal Mace. Used to keep Scroll of Life up (better chance of it going off than self-cast spell). Always keep Absorb up, if you can.


But you don't have access to TT&T yet...
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post Jan 2 2014, 21:54
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QUOTE(Aerith12 @ Jan 2 2014, 21:55) *

Not really, since proc gains increase by level until a certain point(the Cap)so it isn't really possible, even if you look in the wiki it gives ??? next to the equipment for maximum Proc. so its to hard to say what the cap is to give accurate numbers. basically you will know when you completely stop seeing the bold text in battle that you have capped.


The Cap is always your own level. Your level goes up, then your cap too.
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post Jan 2 2014, 22:08
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Jan 2 2014, 11:36) *

But you don't have access to TT&T yet...


Admittedly, I was referring to: The Trio and the Tree
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