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The last part is in regard to the 37 sisters, not LazyShd's brother, btw.

OK, Screenshots of my stats etc are attached and this is my current gear:

Exquisite Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f86bcc625d

Magnificent Ethereal Club of Balance
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=52c275569f

Exquisite Shade Helmet of the Shadowdancer
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=99c065f2ea

Magnificent Shade Breastplate of the Fleet
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=66e4b6073d

Exquisite Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6032b4c65a

Magnificent Shade Leggings of the Fleet
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=563492fe8d

Magnificent Shade Boots of the Fleet
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c22d9bf1c5

I've just moved from 2 handed (with this lovely estoc http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ee4f5ffd1c ) over to dual wield and am finding DW much better for killing fast. With DW I can clear Trio and the Tree in about 35 minutes - not bad going for my level as far as I can gather.

The question are this:
1. Would I get much more benefit from a Mag/Leg Ethereal Mace/Rapier of Slaughter or is my current set reasonable (if I level the club to butcher 3-5)
2. My shade is old and has 5 PABS instead of the normal 4 now, the evade is also a few percent below the new maximum I've been seeing (when I got these, it was rare to see a 6.0 let alone the 7+ you're seeing now without IW leveling). Are the extra PABS likely to make up for the few dropped percentages on evade (and probably other stats)? Does the new shade have a higher PAB base maximum? If I replace all my shade should I sell or reforge what I have now?
3. Is DW a good longterm strategy as I know mage isn't reliable until around level 330+ or would I be better off struggling a little now and earning proficiency points in something else (cloth and staff etc)
4. What stats should I really be concentrating on now as I think I'm at the point where putting much into Int/Wis is useless until I go full mage, or am I wrong?
5. What areas would be best to concentrate on training, at the moment I'm going with Scavanger (and LotD when I can afford it)?
NOTE: Money isn't a huge object as my H@H servers bring in about 40 hath a day at the moment so it won't take me long to earn what's needed





This post has been edited by animeai: Dec 22 2013, 21:36

It's okay unless you've like 37 sisters. (No joke, Tenboro DID receive this excuse before).

and someone might have over 6k brothers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

3. Is DW a good longterm strategy as I know mage isn't reliable until around level 330+ or would I be better off struggling a little now and earning proficiency points in something else (cloth and staff etc)

Mage is pretty good even before. The 310 level is quite a checkpoint for a mage - you will get no-cooldown imperil, and trust me, its very cool (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) On other hand, if you want to be something more than lazy mage (like me), you need plenty of investment in equipment. Its not hard to get exquisite set of phase, but I think that good mag+ phase is pretty rare even in auctions and competition is high.
edit: If you want start maging later on, start planning it now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
edit2: proficiencies wont be a problem for you soon. My cloth/elemental/supportive are at 280 and staff/deprecative at 250 without doing any special grinding for any of those. Little dualwielding for a fresh change got me 280 in light/DW too. I remember someone posting their prof at level 400 - all maxed. After 250 gaining levels goes slower and prof gain catches up too quick.

While at it, I have my noob question about wiki. I am trying to figure how good is this.
Is the holy spelldamage bonus from the "without prefix, with EDB suffix" part? and its pretty low for mag?
Also are holy/dark proficiency i am checking, from "Proficiency Bonus Other" table, and mediocre, or from the "Minor Prof" table and pretty high?

This post has been edited by Wraithtouch: Dec 23 2013, 02:17

^ Yes, it is from the "without prefix, with EDB suffix" part.

E.g. "with prefix, with EDB suffix" would be something like Magnificent Hallowed Katalox Staff of Heimdal.

Unfortunately, the EDB on that staff is pretty low (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

To all melee players who are able to clear Hellfest:
How much PMI do you think is required for the job? My defensive stats is as below, and I can only keep going comfortably for around 600 rounds before giants and mechs starts to crit me a lot for more than 3000 damage every time (I currently have 15k HP with this light set). "In memory of etc" in particular have managed to get my attention, even though I never had problems with them before while fighting in heavy set, in late rounds IW for example.



I find it interesting how with light armors magical based attacks don't seem to be a problem anymore due to the high resist chance. With roughly 50% of both block and resist chance, the monsters only have a ~7% chance to deal 100% damage of their spells, Chaos upgrades not accounted for.

Sometimes when I am fighting, my browser window will blink and really slowdown fights, is there a setting or something I can do to improve this? I am using Chrome.

To all melee players who are able to clear Hellfest:
How much PMI do you think is required for the job? My defensive stats is as below, and I can only keep going comfortably for around 600 rounds before giants and mechs starts to crit me a lot for more than 3000 damage every time (I currently have 15k HP with this light set). "In memory of etc" in particular have managed to get my attention, even though I never had problems with them before while fighting in heavy set, in late rounds IW for example.

Heavy with
70.9% physical mitigation
65.8% magical mitigation
0% evade chance
55.8% block chance
30.7% parry chance
17.4% resist chance
have no problem until 950+ round.

My light (leather) set
76.7% physical mitigation
68.3% magical mitigation
30.3% evade chance
55.8% block chance
30.4% parry chance
51.8% resist chance
kill too slow and SP is a problem in the late (900+) round.

BTW, just get a full set of leather protection. They are cheap anyway.

Sometimes when I am fighting, my browser window will blink and really slowdown fights, is there a setting or something I can do to improve this? I am using Chrome.

Same here. It seem it is bug of chrome for MS windows (not sure how is it for linux and android). After a long fight, one of the chrome process will have a CPU run at the max speed. Close the chrome normally do not solve the problem. A temporal solution is to force close the chrome process in task manager (processes tab) and restart the chrome.

This post has been edited by Colman: Dec 23 2013, 06:08

If it's a browser issue, then you could try running a portable build of an older version of Chrome, Chromium, or Iron.

I will replace the 2 not protection pieces eventually. I'm waiting for this week's auctions.

I find Fus Ro Dah and light leather set work very well together. Light leather give me good protection AND lower damage so I can SS FRD at the start of every round to kill of about 50-80% of the enemies' HP then attack normally to get back at least 110% OC before the round end. With heavy it's impossible because guess what? My damage is too high so I can't build up enough OC for next round's FRD before all mobs die.

I managed to round 600 of hellfest without focusing or using any pot whatsoever. It go downhill from there though because monster damage gradually become unbearable.


@Colman: What is your damage for your heavy set? How many slaughter pieces are you using?

This post has been edited by Kagoromo: Dec 23 2013, 06:13

@Colman: What is your damage for your heavy set? How many slaughter pieces are you using?

6349attack base damage
156.5% hit chance
33.6% crit chance / +53 % damage
3.3% attack speed bonus

133 interference
79.1 burden

3 Ex slaughter + 1 Ex balance (hands) + 1 Leg plate of protection (legging)
I normally feather the plate before Helfest.

Did precursor artifact drop chance get increased? I got 3 today and 2 in the last few RE

There you go lol. That's 1.3k more damage than the set in my sig. I guess 2 crappy pieces of power of protection can only go so far.

There you go lol. That's 1.3k more damage than the set in my sig. I guess 2 crappy pieces of power of protection can only go so far.

Well, I use axe, and you use rapier. Also, some damage is from the level different. The actual different in output damage should be around 5%

Well, I use axe, and you use rapier. Also, some damage is from the level different. The actual different in output damage should be around 5%

Huh, I wonder what makes the differences then. Do you employ any "special tactic" in Hellfest to get that far? I remember you saying not using SS for the leather set but how about the heavy set?

Did precursor artifact drop chance get increased? I got 3 today and 2 in the last few RE

It's just luck. Sometimes I got 10 artifact in 1 day, sometimes I could go for 3 days with none dropped

OK, Screenshots of my stats etc are attached and this is my current gear:

Exquisite Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f86bcc625d

Magnificent Ethereal Club of Balance
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=52c275569f

Exquisite Shade Helmet of the Shadowdancer
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=99c065f2ea

Magnificent Shade Breastplate of the Fleet
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=66e4b6073d

Exquisite Shade Gauntlets of the Fleet
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6032b4c65a

Magnificent Shade Leggings of the Fleet
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=563492fe8d

Magnificent Shade Boots of the Fleet
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c22d9bf1c5

I've just moved from 2 handed (with this lovely estoc http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ee4f5ffd1c ) over to dual wield and am finding DW much better for killing fast. With DW I can clear Trio and the Tree in about 35 minutes - not bad going for my level as far as I can gather.

The question are this:
1. Would I get much more benefit from a Mag/Leg Ethereal Mace/Rapier of Slaughter or is my current set reasonable (if I level the club to butcher 3-5)
2. My shade is old and has 5 PABS instead of the normal 4 now, the evade is also a few percent below the new maximum I've been seeing (when I got these, it was rare to see a 6.0 let alone the 7+ you're seeing now without IW leveling). Are the extra PABS likely to make up for the few dropped percentages on evade (and probably other stats)? Does the new shade have a higher PAB base maximum? If I replace all my shade should I sell or reforge what I have now?
3. Is DW a good longterm strategy as I know mage isn't reliable until around level 330+ or would I be better off struggling a little now and earning proficiency points in something else (cloth and staff etc)
4. What stats should I really be concentrating on now as I think I'm at the point where putting much into Int/Wis is useless until I go full mage, or am I wrong?
5. What areas would be best to concentrate on training, at the moment I'm going with Scavanger (and LotD when I can afford it)?
NOTE: Money isn't a huge object as my H@H servers bring in about 40 hath a day at the moment so it won't take me long to earn what's needed

1. If you're going to be swapping out your weapons anyway, I'd recommend a club of slaughter and rapier of balance. The reason is that clubs have a higher base damage, and rapiers have higher accuracy. Since your offhand strike only gets 50% damage of the weapon, you want the hardest hitter in your main hand, and your off hand also gets 50% of the weapon's parry (on top of it's parry already) as well as other stuff... all around it's more offensively and defensively ideal to go with a club of slaughter and rapier of balance vice the other way around. More info here.

2. I'll leave that for someone else to number crunch.

3. DW is great for schoolgirl arenas, and ring of blood can be as well. DW has the highest damage output on a single target for all the melee styles, but can only hit multiple targets with frenzied blows (or the fus ro dah and orbital friendship cannon abilities). So it's a situational thing... I have very low proficiency in 2H and 1H right now, so DW is the best choice for me for really any of the situations. I'm grinding up 1H a little bit, and will eventually do 2H as well to go Niten when I'm feeling frivolous and want to play with it because all my proficiencies are maxed. If you plan on messing around with mage, you're going to have a steeper learning curve with proficiency just because you didn't start with it, but I don't think it'll really matter too much. If you want to do some mage arenas, switch stuff around and do the first 5 arenas each day with mage, then do the rest of your normal stuff in DW as usual. (Thanks to etothex for that idea for my 1H proficiency grinding)

4. Wis you'll still use a lot as a melee. If you're -not- going to be switching back and forth to mage, I honestly think you should drop your int down a decent amount. I'm 25 levels higher than you (which really isn't much honestly), and my int is only 145. Currently I'm at 309 for Str, Dex, Agi, Sta, 145 Int, and 271 Wis... and I'm putting points in evenly across the board except that I'm totally skipping Int (and have been since about 160 when I brought it up from 75). If you're going to be swapping back and forth, yeah it's probably fine on the balance you've got right now.

5. http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Advice#Training
Personally I went 125 adept learner, 82 ability points (I'm not currently missing anything in skills I use, so let that dictate more than the raw number), and I'm rather behind on scavenger, LoTD, quartermaster, and archaeologist. I'm also fairly far behind others on pack rat, but I don't use too many potions... I run stuff at the highest difficulty that lets me clear things faster, rather than having to cure, potions, and stuff (plus monsters taking almost twice as long to die) for a small increase to drop quality. I'd rather kill more things at a slightly lower quality average for now. As far as LoTD, many have said that once you're up to over 1m, it's generally not worth the training cost to the returns. There's a chart in this thread that shows the training cost for each level of it.

While at it, I have my noob question about wiki. I am trying to figure how good is this.

No, it sux. Intelligence should be double that. Also no prefix. Probably only reason it is mag is the MDB.

No, it sux. Intelligence should be double that. Also no prefix. Probably only reason it is mag is the MDB.

What does MMax in your sig mean?

WTB: Mag+ Charged/Frugal/Radiant/Mystic Phase Robe/Pants of Fenrir, EDB >= MMax

It isn't on the wiki page

What does MMax in your sig mean?
It isn't on the wiki page

Mmax EDB = Magnificent Max EDB