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I'm playing light DW, and I earn just 25k a day from 3-4 arena runs, I hope I don't die of starvation.

correct it to "Starvation, Lack of Sleep and a Tidbit of Loss of Sanity"

They appear to have a really high scaling factor "25?"* - from the wiki.

*Means that at level 225, it will be 10 times as strong as at level 1.

*Also It scales with crit chance, so if you have awesome Shade of the Shadowdancer, you get more procs. edit: no it doesn't

As I said, Wiki is not being helpful. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Also, in practical, they doesn't seem to Scale with Levels and Crits. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

It is not that overpowered, you don't suddenly get 100% mana all the time using it*... however, if you have IA5, you could probably get 0 mana drain per turn (or even actually regenerate each turn), which over the 50000 turns in a grindfest, adds up to a lot. Also remember that you can play different when you have excessively expensive gear that has been highly forged. Though it seems that Illithid would only be useful for DW, and banshee only for DW and possibly 1H (only in the case where you are lazy), otherwise slaughter is better.

Hmm. For Helfest or highier difficulty GF, Illithid may recover quite some Mana, but still it seems pretty low to me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
On the other hand, I had tested Banshee (1.8 points of Spirit Siphon per successful Proc) in 1H-Style with IWBTH difficulty. And when I enter Spirit Stance, I almost never run out of either Overcharge or Spirit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I haven't tried them in DW-Style yet. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) But for a DW, a Balance/Nimble suffixes are the best choice in the offhand. So, if someone wants to use either Illithid or Bansee, they'll better try them as mainhand weapons. Though its my point of view only.

This post has been edited by kuro009: Dec 10 2013, 06:40

I'm playing light DW, and I earn just 25k a day from 3-4 arena runs, I hope I don't die of starvation.

I do Arena runs in either IWBTH or BT, Cause Hell gives much less credit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
And I get around 1,00,000 - 1,30,000 Credits per day from those. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
For now, I'm not doing Hellfest for some days. Since Arena gives much more credits than it.
I'm building up Credits to buy something. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I do Arena runs in either IWBTH or BT, Cause Hell gives much less credit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
And I get around 1,00,000 - 1,30,000 Credits per day from those. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
For now, I'm not doing Hellfest for some days. Since Arena gives much more credits than it.
I'm building up Credits to buy something. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

how did you get 1M+ credits from arena (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I'm remember , I clear DwD to FB in PFU alot only give me less than 300k in the past (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

DwD PFU only give around 33-38k


how did you get 1M+ credits day if you don't do massive GF run + cryst3 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Dec 10 2013, 06:16

Indian Numbering System? 1,00,000 = 100,000?

That's 1,00,000 not 1,000,000. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I'm checking on those sip drain.

Edit: MP/SP Sip drain do scale with level. The HP/MP factor should be around 25 while the SP factor would be a pain in the ass to calculate.

This post has been edited by varst: Dec 10 2013, 06:34

how did you get 1M+ credits from arena (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I'm remember , I clear DwD to FB in PFU alot only give me less than 300k in the past (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

DwD PFU only give around 33-38k
how did you get 1M+ credits day if you don't do massive GF run + cryst3 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

1M+? Where did I wrote that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Okay, for your better understanding, it's 100k - 130k.

Indian Numbering System? 1,00,000 = 100,000?

Yes. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

MP/SP Sip drain do scale with level. The HP/MP factor should be around 25 while the SP factor would be a pain in the ass to calculate.

So they do Scale, eh? Gotta check it out, then. But I don't think SP drain would scale very much. That'll make it OP.

This post has been edited by kuro009: Dec 10 2013, 06:46

Hmm. I asked a friend of mine to help me test whether the Spirit Siphon Scale with level or not. And seems like it does.
She is LV.21, I'm LV.239 and here are the results:


P.S. - I'm too damn lazy to calculate the Scaling Factor. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

oh wow, it works like this? i never knew..

P.S. - I'm too damn lazy to calculate the Scaling Factor. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You can calculate stats scale to specific level here.
[www.starfleetplatoon.com] http://www.starfleetplatoon.com/~cmal/EquipCalc/

For example, if you want to know the siphon amount scale to level 350,
fill "Level" to 239, "Siphon" to 1.8 and "Scale to Level" to 350.

The result is

Equip Name
Level: 239 -> 350
Leech: 2.56

Note that some stats do not work well, for the calculator is last updated at 09/28/2011.

You can calculate stats scale to specific level here.
[www.starfleetplatoon.com] http://www.starfleetplatoon.com/~cmal/EquipCalc/

For example, if you want to know the siphon amount scale to level 350,
fill "Level" to 239, "Siphon" to 1.8 and "Scale to Level" to 350.

The result is

Equip Name
Level: 239 -> 350
Leech: 2.56

Note that some stats do not work well, for the calculator is last updated at 09/28/2011.

That Calculator is obsoleted. I'm not sure if it's calculations are correct after the 0.76 Patch.

I do Arena runs in either IWBTH or BT, Cause Hell gives much less credit. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
And I get around 1,00,000 - 1,30,000 Credits per day from those. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
For now, I'm not doing Hellfest for some days. Since Arena gives much more credits than it.
I'm building up Credits to buy something. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Anyway, some questions:

that 100k, do you do all arenas or some only?
when going IWBTH or BT arenas, do you need to pay attention?
Hellfest? I don't know I can complete hellfest on my level. Again do you need much attention?

Edit:
And about stuff in the wiki, why can't we just ask tenB about them? he designed it, so I'm sure he knows the values.

This post has been edited by LOL50015: Dec 10 2013, 08:01

That Calculator is obsoleted. I'm not sure if it's calculations are correct after the 0.76 Patch.

It may be obsoleted but still work for most of stats.
I checked the stats including ADB, MDB, accuracy, crit, PMI, MMI, other defenses and PABs using it
and most of them expect EDB work well.

Anyway, some questions:

that 100k, do you do all arenas or some only?
when going IWBTH or BT arenas, do you need to pay attention?
Hellfest? I don't know I can complete hellfest on my level. Again do you need much attention?

I run from FB to T&T regularly. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I rarely do the Schoolgirl arena (just too much hassle and not a very good return). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

When going IWBTH or BT Arenas, I need to pay attention to these:

While DW-Light:
1. Overcharge
2. Focus
3. Spirit Stance (Temporary) (Mainly for Spells and Tier-Skills)
2. Cure (sometimes).

While 1H-Heavy:
1. SoL
2. SS
2. Cure (a Lot)

While 1H-Light:
Nothing! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (Yes, you read it right)

While Elemnetal Mage:
I can't complete any Arena after Endgame in IWBTH or BT. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

It may be obsoleted but still work for most of stats.
I checked the stats including ADB, MDB, accuracy, crit, PMI, MMI, other defenses and PABs using it
and most of them expect EDB work well.

Yes, it does not work for EDB and Magic Accuracy, but everything else looks fine. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I also use the calculator sometimes to know an equip's stats scaled to higher level than now.

This post has been edited by Cats Lover: Dec 10 2013, 08:23

P.S. - I'm too damn lazy to calculate the Scaling Factor. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

It's around 22. Which is close to 25.

Edit:
And about stuff in the wiki, why can't we just ask tenB about them? he designed it, so I'm sure he knows the values.

Yea yea... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

You know quite well that there is a lot more information available about how loot is generated than "numbers are made". Literally the only way I could make it more transparent is to write out the full pseudocode for the generation process, and I really have better things to do with my time.

Is there way to get whole link for an equipment with its eid?
For example, the case that sending an equipment to someone without keeping its link and MM leaves eid only, not the key.
Is key generated by the eid? If it is encrypted and had to be secretly kept, I'll resign of course.

correct it to "Starvation, Lack of Sleep and a Tidbit of Loss of Sanity"

At least I'll be rich, hopefully.

I run from FB to T&T regularly. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I rarely do the Schoolgirl arena (just too much hassle and not a very good return). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

When going IWBTH or BT Arenas, I need to pay attention to these:

While DW-Light:
1. Overcharge
2. Focus
3. Spirit Stance (Temporary) (Mainly for Spells and Tier-Skills)
2. Cure (sometimes).

While 1H-Heavy:
1. SoL
2. SS
2. Cure (a Lot)

While 1H-Light:
Nothing! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (Yes, you read it right)

While Elemnetal Mage:
I can't complete any Arena after Endgame in IWBTH or BT. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Thanks for the tip, I'll go try out at higher difficulties and see how it goes.

@Varst:

Then TenB is breaking the very basic 7 steps of Programme Development Process which needs you to make a IPO chart, a Pseudocode and a flowchart before the actual coding.

This post has been edited by LOL50015: Dec 10 2013, 09:05

Is there way to get whole link for an equipment with its eid?

No, you also need the key.

@Varst:

Then TenB is breaking the very basic 7 steps of Programme Development Process which needs you to make a IPO chart, a Pseudocode and a flowchart before the actual coding.

Well HV has been developed for over 4 years. He may have done that but man, so many changes have happened...

Is there way to get whole link for an equipment with its eid?
For example, the case that sending an equipment to someone without keeping its link and MM leaves eid only, not the key.
Is key generated by the eid? If it is encrypted and had to be secretly kept, I'll resign of course.

Just hover over the piece of equipment so it brings up the popup window of stats, hit c to bring up its stats in detail in a new window, and check the URL of that window that pops up.