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post Dec 9 2013, 01:07
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Is there any way to increase the number of mobs hit by Shatter Strike, Rending Blow, Frenzied Blows and Skyward Sword from the usual five? Like proficiency?
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post Dec 9 2013, 03:25
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QUOTE(limitbreak @ Dec 9 2013, 07:07) *

Is there any way to increase the number of mobs hit by Shatter Strike, Rending Blow, Frenzied Blows and Skyward Sword from the usual five? Like proficiency?


Not for skills, as far as I know. It would probably make 2-H OP, as well as OFC and FRD pointless if it's possible.
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post Dec 9 2013, 03:40
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QUOTE(limitbreak @ Dec 9 2013, 10:07) *

Is there any way to increase the number of mobs hit by Shatter Strike, Rending Blow, Frenzied Blows and Skyward Sword from the usual five? Like proficiency?


Sigh back in the old days one sky sword 10mobs all day one shot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I miss it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Dec 9 2013, 03:41
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Dec 7 2013, 15:12) *

Both good.
Generally speaking, it is said that club+rapier or axe+rapier is better, and rapier is better for offhand.
But I think it depends on each user and preferance. Rapier+rapier is also not bad one. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I like use club+rapier now for DW
if I have good armor i'll go to axe+rapier

rapier+rapier have very low damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

why use rapier on main hand if we have axe which have high damage. And using 1 rapier which have 20%+ PA change(5 turn) is enough. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Dec 9 2013, 15:38
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How useful are the "Illithid" and "Banshee" Suffix?
And what are the max amout of Mana/Spirit they can give in a single turn?
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post Dec 9 2013, 15:59
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QUOTE(kuro009 @ Dec 9 2013, 20:38) *

How useful are the "Illithid" and "Banshee" Suffix?
And what are the max amout of Mana/Spirit they can give in a single turn?

homicidalsage said that Illithid quite usefull for his DW set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

that why he searching for leg rapier of Illithid in his WTB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I never use Illithid , so personally I don't know how usefull this sufix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 9 2013, 16:16
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Dec 9 2013, 15:59) *

homicidalsage said that Illithid quite usefull for his DW set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

that why he searching for leg rapier of Illithid in his WTB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I never use Illithid , so personally I don't know how usefull this sufix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Hmm. I was testing those two prefix for a few hours. But Illithid seemed to be too slow to recover Mana. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Instead, I found Banshee to be highly effective when using 1H-style. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 9 2013, 16:20
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QUOTE(kuro009 @ Dec 9 2013, 17:16) *

Hmm. I was testing those two prefix for a few hours. But Illithid seemed to be too slow to recover Mana. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Instead, I found Banshee to be highly effective when using 1H-style. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


For long GF runs, it might be useful. Though you could just hit focus a few times.
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post Dec 9 2013, 16:36
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Dec 9 2013, 16:20) *

For long GF runs, it might be useful. Though you could just hit focus a few times.

Illithid for longer runs? Umm...you may be right. I'm not sure. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
That's why I want to know the Max amount those two prefixes can give per turn. Wiki is not being helpful. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

And Focus is risky, unless you have Stunned all the remaining Mobs or have SS/SoL active. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
But it DOES recover great amount of Mana if used with correct timing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
I use it frequently when using DW-Light style.
In each of the rounds, when there are only one/two mob remains, I Max-Out the Overcharge, Stun those remaining Mobs, and proceed to recover my Mana. That helps a lot. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 9 2013, 17:57
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Don't bother with it... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Dec 9 2013, 18:14
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slaughter is much better in most situations
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post Dec 9 2013, 18:50
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QUOTE(kuro009 @ Dec 9 2013, 15:38) *

How useful are the "Illithid" and "Banshee" Suffix?
And what are the max amout of Mana/Spirit they can give in a single turn?


They appear to have a really high scaling factor "25?"* - from the wiki.

*Means that at level 225, it will be 10 times as strong as at level 1.

QUOTE(kuro009 @ Dec 9 2013, 16:16) *

Hmm. I was testing those two prefix for a few hours. But Illithid seemed to be too slow to recover Mana. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Instead, I found Banshee to be highly effective when using 1H-style. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

It is not that overpowered, you don't suddenly get 100% mana all the time using it*... however, if you have IA5, you could probably get 0 mana drain per turn (or even actually regenerate each turn), which over the 50000 turns in a grindfest, adds up to a lot. Also remember that you can play different when you have excessively expensive gear that has been highly forged. Though it seems that Illithid would only be useful for DW, and banshee only for DW and possibly 1H (only in the case where you are lazy), otherwise slaughter is better.

*Also It scales with crit chance, so if you have awesome Shade of the Shadowdancer, you get more procs. edit: no it doesn't

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post Dec 9 2013, 19:10
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Critical granted 100% proc chance only for weapon proc (stun/bleed/PA).
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post Dec 10 2013, 02:01
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oops wrong one heh

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post Dec 10 2013, 03:36
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So I time my runs for the 1st time, and I manage 17 minutes on Hell TT arena, is this an okay time for my level?

Oh and my artifact drop rate is currently at 689 rounds per one? I find this kind of low since I got 1 point in archeologist. Other people I see have an average of 400 per one.

Edit:
Oh and about amnesia shards, at 9k per piece, assuming a Leg pxp of 359, 359*9000=3231000 to reset at lvl.1, wouldn't it be better to just buy a whole new one and relevel it?

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post Dec 10 2013, 03:58
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Dec 10 2013, 09:36) *

Oh and about amnesia shards, at 9k per piece, assuming a Leg pxp of 359, 359*9000=3231000 to reset at lvl.1, wouldn't it be better to just buy a whole new one and relevel it?


Ooops it was 1 shard/level. @_@

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post Dec 10 2013, 04:00
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Dec 9 2013, 17:36) *

So I time my runs for the 1st time, and I manage 17 minutes on Hell TT arena, is this an okay time for my level?

Oh and my artifact drop rate is currently at 689 rounds per one? I find this kind of low since I got 1 point in archeologist. Other people I see have an average of 400 per one.

Edit:
Oh and about amnesia shards, at 9k per piece, assuming a Leg pxp of 359, 359*9000=3231000 to reset at lvl.1, wouldn't it be better to just buy a whole new one and relevel it?


I don't know what you're playing, but 17 minutes for your being 244 seems fine.

I get around 1 per 300 rounds with level 4 archeologist...so I have no idea, just giving you some ideas of what I get.

I believe amnesia shards don't work like that, I think it's 1 shard removes 1 level, so if you have a maxed out equipment it would only take 10 shards to put it back to 0.
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post Dec 10 2013, 04:09
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Dec 10 2013, 10:00) *

I believe amnesia shards don't work like that, I think it's 1 shard removes 1 level, so if you have a maxed out equipment it would only take 10 shards to put it back to 0.


Yep, resets require 1 shard per level, and no partial resets.
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post Dec 10 2013, 04:21
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Dec 10 2013, 10:00) *

I don't know what you're playing, but 17 minutes for your being 244 seems fine.

I get around 1 per 300 rounds with level 4 archeologist...so I have no idea, just giving you some ideas of what I get.

I believe amnesia shards don't work like that, I think it's 1 shard removes 1 level, so if you have a maxed out equipment it would only take 10 shards to put it back to 0.


Thank you. I though it was 1 pxp 1 amnesia shard, must be misleading text in the wiki

I'm playing light DW, and I earn just 25k a day from 3-4 arena runs, I hope I don't die of starvation.
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post Dec 10 2013, 05:06
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Dec 10 2013, 10:36) *

So I time my runs for the 1st time, and I manage 17 minutes on Hell TT arena, is this an okay time for my level?

Yes, not bad one (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
But clear time depends on turn/sec, so note that it's meaningless to compare with those who have fastest ping (4 turn/sec) like Europeans.
If you already live on Europe and have 4 turn/sec... I envy you. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Oh and my artifact drop rate is currently at 689 rounds per one? I find this kind of low since I got 1 point in archeologist. Other people I see have an average of 400 per one.

That also depends upon which battle you play.
The drop rate of something like artifact or token is decided by how many monsters you beated.
So if you play tons of GF or IW where you meet almost always 8~9 monsters, your drop rate will be increased.
I used to get one artifact per 300 round on GF with 1/10 archaeologist.
And now the rate is one per 200~250 round with 5/10. Even 8~9 artifacts dropped on 1 GF run when I got strike lucky.

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