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post Dec 1 2013, 07:16
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So I just hit the level 100 milestone. Is there anything I should be taking into consideration now?


Not really. 200 is a more important milestone, since that's when all the crazy PL monsters start showing up, I believe. Just keep focusing on levelling, maybe experiment with playstyles until you find one you like.
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post Dec 1 2013, 08:03
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QUOTE(Valkrey @ Dec 1 2013, 12:16) *

Not really. 200 is a more important milestone, since that's when all the crazy PL monsters start showing up, I believe. Just keep focusing on levelling, maybe experiment with playstyles until you find one you like.

Your information is outdated. Mobs levels are now scaled with player's level and difficulty so there isn't anymore a point when you are suddenly pit against max level mobs.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_Lab#Monster...s._Player_Level

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post Dec 1 2013, 08:27
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Well.. speaking from experience, 200+ is around when you get to meet some max-chaos upgraded mobs.

100-ish mobs mostly belong to casuals so they are easy to wack.
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post Dec 1 2013, 09:09
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My bad. But really, up till 200+, i don't think there's really all that much to consider, other than playstyle. Min-Maxing would probably be more effective about that point, when you can start higher difficulties and point distribution starts making a difference, and you can afford some of the better gear.
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post Dec 1 2013, 10:02
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Honestly the playstyle I've been happy with is Niten, though right now I'm just doing DW. I've also been running on Nightmare difficulty the past couple of days.
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post Dec 1 2013, 10:15
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From my experience in dealing with high PL mob, mace performs much better than estoc or longsword/scythe because stun negates all parry/evade (no of those triple parry/evade). Is it the same with DW? Is main-hand club better than main-hand axe despite the WD difference?

I'm asking this because it's so hard to find a decent eth club, while I already have a decent eth axe.

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post Dec 1 2013, 10:38
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Dec 1 2013, 00:15) *

From my experience in dealing with high PL mob, mace performs much better than estoc or longsword/scythe because stun negates all parry/evade (no of those triple parry/evade). Is it the same with DW? Is main-hand club better than main-hand axe despite the WD difference?

I'm asking this because it's so hard to find a decent eth club, while I already have a decent eth axe.


Axe does more damage, club can stun which negates parry and most useful for pfudor.

QUOTE(R.D. @ Dec 1 2013, 00:02) *

Honestly the playstyle I've been happy with is Niten, though right now I'm just doing DW. I've also been running on Nightmare difficulty the past couple of days.

You probably shouldn't niten right now because it benefits from both DW and 2H proficienies, which is to say you will need both to get the most out of niten. When you get around level 250 (200?) it will be really easy to level up proficiency, so around that time it'll be better to do niten cuz you could build up both fighting styles.

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post Dec 1 2013, 10:39
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Just wanted to thank you guys for all the advice! I made it to Godslayer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 1 2013, 10:43
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Dec 1 2013, 19:38) *

Axe does more damage, club can stun which negates parry and most useful for pfudor.


So in practice club+rapier will clear faster than axe+rapier?
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post Dec 1 2013, 10:54
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Dec 1 2013, 16:43) *

So in practice club+rapier will clear faster than axe+rapier?

Axe+rapier is faster if you are wearing full leather/plate.
Club+rapier is faster if you are wearing power/shade.
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post Dec 1 2013, 11:15
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Dec 1 2013, 00:43) *

So in practice club+rapier will clear faster than axe+rapier?


Well, only in pfudor I would say yes. In lower difficulties I would say axe is better. This is just a general statement, in any difficulty or melee fighting style you could be parried multiple times but in lower the idea is that you can kill a monster in few hits with an axe since you'll have higher damage and in pfudor you'll eventually land a stun at which point you can go to town on a monster without worrying about missing/parry.
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post Dec 1 2013, 11:47
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I hate burden, who the h on world decide this attribute.
You can have up to 80% PMI with full set of tuned Heavy w/ no evade low parry and crit penalty due to burden.
Meanwhile you can have up to 70% pmi with full set of tuned light w/ high evade,parry and no crit penalty.
Sigh, i love to be a heavy armor melee in many games but did the gamemaster nerf heavy too much?
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post Dec 1 2013, 12:24
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QUOTE(lwprbf @ Dec 1 2013, 11:47) *

I hate burden, who the h on world decide this attribute.
You can have up to 80% PMI with full set of tuned Heavy w/ no evade low parry and crit penalty due to burden.
Meanwhile you can have up to 70% pmi with full set of tuned light w/ high evade,parry and no crit penalty.
Sigh, i love to be a heavy armor melee in many games but did the gamemaster nerf heavy too much?


You can get higher than 80%, that limit is only for physical attributes (ie. a limit to how good monsters can be) it happens around the 2400 stat mark (2400 end and 2400 agi), well above what you could have at level 500. Also the way protection works is much more favorable for heavy and 80% pmi vs 70% pmi is a massive difference too.

If you get good enough gear, you can circumvent the crit penalty, and if you shard your gear, you can do the same for the attack speed and some of the evade.

Heavy may be nerfed too much but it is definitely still viable.

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post Dec 1 2013, 12:31
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QUOTE(Colman @ Dec 1 2013, 19:54) *

Axe+rapier is faster if you are wearing full leather/plate.
Club+rapier is faster if you are wearing power/shade.


So that's club+rapier for me, since I never go full plate and I only wear 2 plates at max.
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post Dec 1 2013, 12:33
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QUOTE(lwprbf @ Dec 1 2013, 16:47) *

I hate burden, who the h on world decide this attribute.
You can have up to 80% PMI with full set of tuned Heavy w/ no evade low parry and crit penalty due to burden.
Meanwhile you can have up to 70% pmi with full set of tuned light w/ high evade,parry and no crit penalty.
Sigh, i love to be a heavy armor melee in many games but did the gamemaster nerf heavy too much?


yeah , tenb nerf heavy alot since 0.73 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

you can use feather but that need alot of money to keep feather every time you play (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Dec 1 2013, 12:40
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QUOTE(lwprbf @ Dec 1 2013, 20:47) *

I hate burden, who the h on world decide this attribute.
You can have up to 80% PMI with full set of tuned Heavy w/ no evade low parry and crit penalty due to burden.
Meanwhile you can have up to 70% pmi with full set of tuned light w/ high evade,parry and no crit penalty.
Sigh, i love to be a heavy armor melee in many games but did the gamemaster nerf heavy too much?


you can switch out 2-3 of the plate for power and you get 70%pmi and more weapon damage than even full shade could get. The idea of heavy is that you can be a tank and damage dealer at the same time, and you can easily specialise just by switching out some pieces. Before the nerf, almost nobody wants light, so I think it's justified.
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post Dec 1 2013, 12:44
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Thank for your kindness. Do teach me a lot about heavy armor.
By the way can anyone tell me how much you will pay for this cloth armor?
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post Dec 1 2013, 12:53
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Can Shrining be affected by anything? like LOTD or something else?
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post Dec 1 2013, 12:56
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The only thing that affects shrine results is the tier of the trophy; nothing else.
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post Dec 1 2013, 14:17
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The only thing that affects shrine results is the tier of the trophy; nothing else.

Okay. Then is it "Theoretically" possible to get mag/leg equips from MBP trophies?
Do not say something like "You'll need a ton of luck " or something like that. I just want to know whether it's possible or not.
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