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post Nov 27 2013, 18:56
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Nov 27 2013, 17:41) *

I don't know why anyone is melee'ing anymore. Mage can arguably do anything better than melee. Everyone should just drop their swords and pick up a staff.


How nostalgic... (IMG:[bbs.pramool.com] http://bbs.pramool.com/webboard/pic/36.gif)
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post Nov 28 2013, 01:57
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im using heavy armor with a short sword and a shield
it would be better if i use another weapon or is good enough like it?
and wath stats should i give preference?
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post Nov 28 2013, 02:15
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Why is it so hard to find an eth club of slaughter ? I've scanned through all thread in WTS's 1st page and all I see are eth axe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) There's only 1 club and it has 3 turn stun (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Isn't club common drop as well?

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post Nov 28 2013, 02:23
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QUOTE(m118w11 @ Nov 28 2013, 02:23) *

Takes less effort, I can do BT arenas without healing once so I can farm while I watch shows.


Come to think of that, if I write a script to attack an arbitrary monster with a chosen magic spell with the press of one hotkey, would it be a bannable offense?

Basically instead of pressing ALT+1 -> 3 for an attack, I can keep pressing A, and the script do the rest of the work. It's technically semi-automated...
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post Nov 28 2013, 02:52
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QUOTE(warwik @ Nov 28 2013, 01:57) *

im using heavy armor with a short sword and a shield
it would be better if i use another weapon or is good enough like it?
and wath stats should i give preference?

For weapon, use the one with the highest damage for now, a really high damage short sword would be good for lower difficulties, at lower levels.

Str/dex/end most important. (as high as possible)
agi, wis important. (keep at main stats -20ish)
int meh. (I do main stats -100)

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Nov 28 2013, 02:15) *

Why is it so hard to find an eth club of slaughter ? I've scanned through all thread in WTS's 1st page and all I see are eth axe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) There's only 1 club and it has 3 turn stun (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Isn't club common drop as well?

It is, but Ethereal only happens 30% of the time (if you roll a prefix) which happens 25% for a exquisite level, and slaughter happens at least 1/7th of the time. So roughly ~1% of exq clubs will be ethereal, of slaughter.

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Nov 28 2013, 02:23) *

Come to think of that, if I write a script to attack an arbitrary monster with a chosen magic spell with the press of one hotkey, would it be a bannable offense?

Basically instead of pressing ALT+1 -> 3 for an attack, I can keep pressing A, and the script do the rest of the work. It's technically semi-automated...


Apparently scripts aren't allowed to do more than one action per button (which is inconsistent since pressing 'r' chooses a spell and then casts it). But having it automatically choosing spells for you is most definitely illegal.
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post Nov 28 2013, 05:24
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QUOTE(warwik @ Nov 28 2013, 07:57) *

im using heavy armor with a short sword and a shield
it would be better if i use another weapon or is good enough like it?


Or, pick an axe with better damage from some free shop.

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Nov 28 2013, 08:23) *

Come to think of that, if I write a script to attack an arbitrary monster with a chosen magic spell with the press of one hotkey, would it be a bannable offense?

Basically instead of pressing ALT+1 -> 3 for an attack, I can keep pressing A, and the script do the rest of the work. It's technically semi-automated...


Theoretically, the part which 'arbitrary' is okay, but you'll also need to exclude the dead monsters which isn't allowed.

Choosing a spell is okay (check keybind), but you cannot use any kind of information from the battlefield (i.e. monsters' type, HP, weaknesses, etc) to feed in the program and let it choose the correct spell for you.
You can, however, make a script that counts the spells' cooldown and automatically pick the highest one available.
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post Nov 28 2013, 06:48
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Nov 26 2013, 05:24) *

How you know about patch's changes before they even happen?



QUOTE(Cashino @ Nov 26 2013, 05:30) *

Hints about what's going to come are usually spread before the patch is released. Like the "evil GP sink."

^That, and well...Buying GP is kind of extreme case with only max 1% loss from planning, but even if you aren't rich enough to do direct market manipulation you can still reap from it.

Do keep in mind that equipment is usually kind of hard to deal in unless you're selling very high-end stuff, so buying up equips to sell at profit may make that profit take a long time to come in if put in a shop, you can't even amortize the cost easily, and an auction could net less with much more trouble with selling.
Furthermore, in the time one deals with market one could grind instead.

Plus, it is not like I did know before patch went live that HGW would be starting at 5k in item shop, for example, which is why it is important to have some resources on hand. That said, investments are usually much more long-term, like predicting the next scavenger level/your pet will pay off in 8 months, or that one of the high h@h-ers will turn from melee to mage eventually.

Still, I consider investing efficiently more important than grinding so.
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post Nov 28 2013, 09:34
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What do you think, gentlemen, which rapier I should use as an offhand weapon for RoB and maraphons? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
I can finish IW for ethereal one, and forge it some more... Holy strike is good and all, but burden/inter is quite unpleasant.

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post Nov 28 2013, 09:37
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QUOTE(kserox @ Nov 28 2013, 16:34) *

What do you think, gentlemen, which rapier I should use as an offhand weapon for RoB and maraphons? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
I can finish IW for ethereal one, and forge it some more... Holy strike is good and all, but burden/inter is quite unpleasant.


Ethereal; higher attack hit% also.
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post Nov 28 2013, 09:41
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Nov 28 2013, 12:37) *

Ethereal; higher attack hit% also.

Well... I have 93% offhand with Holy, and 95% with Ethereal. But thanks for the advice.
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post Nov 28 2013, 09:42
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So recently I noticed that I'm getting less exp on my hourlies?

Pre-lvl.200 when I do IWBTH, I could easily get 5m exp per fight almost every fight..

Post-lvl.200 I do it in PFUDOR and I'm only getting an average of like 3m?

WTF, should I be like getting 5x more exp now that I'm doing it in PFUDOR?
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post Nov 28 2013, 10:11
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QUOTE(kserox @ Nov 27 2013, 23:34) *

What do you think, gentlemen, which rapier I should use as an offhand weapon for RoB and maraphons? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
I can finish IW for ethereal one, and forge it some more... Holy strike is good and all, but burden/inter is quite unpleasant.


You can always feather it, but seems like a huge cost to constantly feather something to use it...unless you just play one hour a day.

QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Nov 27 2013, 23:42) *

So recently I noticed that I'm getting less exp on my hourlies?

Pre-lvl.200 when I do IWBTH, I could easily get 5m exp per fight almost every fight..

Post-lvl.200 I do it in PFUDOR and I'm only getting an average of like 3m?

WTF, should I be like getting 5x more exp now that I'm doing it in PFUDOR?


Could it be stamina? Also, you could have had some boosts from galleries or even just the rounds aren't as big (5 monsters instead of 10)

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post Nov 28 2013, 10:33
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Stamina isn't a problem and what boost from galleries?
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post Nov 28 2013, 11:12
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Nov 28 2013, 00:33) *

Stamina isn't a problem and what boost from galleries?


You likely don't have them but basically if you are in the top 25 of either uploading, tagging, H@H, others (http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Reward) you get a certain percentage boost in experience.
It's sort of hard to get top 25 because you have to be good/focused on that which means not as much hentaiverse...so the reward might not outweigh the cost.

Also, some monsters don't give as much, not sure how much the best or worst give.

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post Nov 28 2013, 11:47
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Other than the Assimilator Training, are there any way to get proficiency quicker?
Suppose I want to increase the Supportive Proficiency. So if I use a full Earth-Walker armor set, will it increase the the Supportive Proficiency gain rate?
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post Nov 28 2013, 11:48
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QUOTE(kserox @ Nov 28 2013, 16:41) *

Well... I have 93% offhand with Holy, and 95% with Ethereal. But thanks for the advice.


So you pretty much answered your own question for advice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

And if you forged the ethereal as much as the holy, you would get 98% vs 93%, but then again you already knew that, right?
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post Nov 28 2013, 11:59
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Nov 28 2013, 16:48) *

So you pretty much answered your own question for advice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

And if you forged the ethereal as much as the holy, you would get 98% vs 93%, but then again you already knew that, right?

already choose you main style , sloth (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Nov 28 2013, 12:01
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Other than the Assimilator Training, are there any way to get proficiency quicker?
Suppose I want to increase the Supportive Proficiency. So if I use a full Earth-Walker armor set, will it increase the the Supportive Proficiency gain rate?


No. The gain rate's only affected by the base prof (i.e. the prof your character have apart from armor)
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post Nov 28 2013, 12:08
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Nov 28 2013, 17:12) *

You likely don't have them but basically if you are in the top 25 of either uploading, tagging, H@H, others (http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Reward) you get a certain percentage boost in experience.
It's sort of hard to get top 25 because you have to be good/focused on that which means not as much hentaiverse...so the reward might not outweigh the cost.

Also, some monsters don't give as much, not sure how much the best or worst give.


http://ehwiki.org/wiki/experience#Ways_to_Affect_EXP_Gains

One or more of the listed reasons could account for the change in exp gain.

QUOTE(kuro009 @ Nov 28 2013, 17:47) *

Other than the Assimilator Training, are there any way to get proficiency quicker?
Suppose I want to increase the Supportive Proficiency. So if I use a full Earth-Walker armor set, will it increase the the Supportive Proficiency gain rate?


No, equipping a full Earth-Walker set won't increase the proficiency gain rate, just increase your total effective proficiency. Casting of spells related to the proficiency is the only way to increase said proficiency, and Assimilator training is the only way for better gains.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/proficiency#Gaining...c_Proficiencies

If you're looking to level supportive proficiency, investing in the Innate Arcana hath perk would help. I don't quite remember the details about how it works, but I know that you can get supportive proficiency gains from the autocast.

If you're looking to level depreciating, get equipment that reduces mana costs, invest in Faster Weaken, go into a Normal difficulty Crude item IW, and just keep casting weaken.

Edit: Varst brought up something i forgot. You're also more likely to gain proficiency faster, the larger the difference between the current base proficiency level and your current level.

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post Nov 28 2013, 12:35
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QUOTE(varst @ Nov 28 2013, 12:01) *

No. The gain rate's only affected by the base prof (i.e. the prof your character have apart from armor)

Hmm. That's what I wanted to clarify.

QUOTE(Valkrey @ Nov 28 2013, 12:08) *

Varst brought up something i forgot. You're also more likely to gain proficiency faster, the larger the difference between the current base proficiency level and your current level.

Now come to think about it, I also read something like that somewhere before. Just can't remember the details. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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