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post Nov 27 2013, 05:46
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Anyone has experience using the Pony Cannon? Is the damage worth it? I guess it might be useful for rounds with lots of mobs.
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post Nov 27 2013, 06:08
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Dunno about mage, but...

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My base Atk ain't high, but my Cannon + SS usually kill every normal mob on PFUDOR, though some very high PL, high defense/HP type mobs like Giant may still survive a non-crit hit.

At the cost of about a million C, I think it's worth the price— especially for 1-Hander, I would say...
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post Nov 27 2013, 07:32
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What's the best weapon set-up to go along with heavy power armor? Should I use a two-handed weapon (preferably a mace) or do a 1-handed (preferably a Wakizashi with Nimble suffix)/buckler (with Nimble suffix) set-up?

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post Nov 27 2013, 07:48
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Nov 26 2013, 19:46) *

Anyone has experience using the Pony Cannon? Is the damage worth it? I guess it might be useful for rounds with lots of mobs.

QUOTE(buktore @ Nov 26 2013, 20:08) *

Dunno about mage, but...


I think I do something like 20-30k to each monster with OFC. It's useless for a mage because it's solely based on Attack Base Damage. It should be like Arcane Blow, which uses both Attack Base Damage and Magic Base Damage, but nope.
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post Nov 27 2013, 08:38
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QUOTE(n125 @ Nov 26 2013, 21:48) *

I think I do something like 20-30k to each monster with OFC. It's useless for a mage because it's solely based on Attack Base Damage. It should be like Arcane Blow, which uses both Attack Base Damage and Magic Base Damage, but nope.

it's a friendship cannon; it should be based on friendship. A modified riddle master should show up and you identify as many ponies as you can in 10 seconds for bonus damage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Nov 27 2013, 10:07
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Nov 26 2013, 18:47) *

Melee needs less attention, you can just mash buttons and kill.

Just as wizards. Nerf, spam attack spell, R R R. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Nov 27 2013, 10:24
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Nov 27 2013, 11:46) *

Anyone has experience using the Pony Cannon? Is the damage worth it? I guess it might be useful for rounds with lots of mobs.


My OFC with SS on did ~65k non crit, ~105k crit on PFU. Just took a quick glance at the values, so the range might vary. My attack base damage is 4460, if you need a benchmark.

Edit: Oh, i had heartseeker on as well.

Edit 2: With SS, I seem to do 140k-170k crit dmg, 85k-95k non-crit dmg. Without SS, 70k-90k crit, 45k-50k non-crit. Tested on PFUDOR Growing Storm arena mobs.

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post Nov 27 2013, 11:30
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But nobody's selling ponies anyway... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Or not? I'd like to buy some.
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post Nov 27 2013, 11:50
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But nobody's selling ponies anyway... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Or not? I'd like to buy some.

just open WTB , add higher price per ponies (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Nov 27 2013, 12:41
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which one will be the quickest to finish arena or item world in PFUDOR difficulty?
meele or mage type? if about lvl. around 300++
please give a reason. thx


Mage. Kills really fast. 2H was decent before, but skills nerfed, domino strike nerfed, and counter-parry is useless.

QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Nov 27 2013, 01:47) *

melee can go as fast, or faster than mage under some circumstances.
Melee needs less attention....Tends to survive easier due to high evade/PMI/MMI etc.


Not true, I think mage is fastest in any situation. And heavy is the worst in terms of survival (on PFUDOR).

QUOTE(Oversoul @ Nov 27 2013, 12:46) *

Anyone has experience using the Pony Cannon? Is the damage worth it? I guess it might be useful for rounds with lots of mobs.


Yes, it's worth it.



I don't know why anyone is melee'ing anymore. Mage can arguably do anything better than melee. Everyone should just drop their swords and pick up a staff. I have Leg Power of Prot and Leg Slaughter Power and would rather play mage with my Exq/Mag junk.

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post Nov 27 2013, 12:49
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It really depends on the quality of the equip and the forging. Difference between maging and meleeing quickly diminishes when both are forged.
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post Nov 27 2013, 14:25
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QUOTE(n125 @ Nov 27 2013, 06:48) *

I think I do something like 20-30k to each monster with OFC. It's useless for a mage because it's solely based on Attack Base Damage. It should be like Arcane Blow, which uses both Attack Base Damage and Magic Base Damage, but nope.


QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Nov 27 2013, 11:41) *

I don't know why anyone is melee'ing anymore. Mage can arguably do anything better than melee. Everyone should just drop their swords and pick up a staff. I have Leg Power of Prot and Leg Slaughter Power and would rather play mage with my Exq/Mag junk.



I've been talking to Jenga, it seems to me that the difference end game is actually surprisingly small, how long does it take for you forged mages to finish hellfest?



QUOTE(Valkrey @ Nov 27 2013, 09:24) *

My OFC with SS on did ~65k non crit, ~105k crit on PFU. Just took a quick glance at the values, so the range might vary. My attack base damage is 4460, if you need a benchmark.

Edit: Oh, i had heartseeker on as well.

Edit 2: With SS, I seem to do 140k-170k crit dmg, 85k-95k non-crit dmg. Without SS, 70k-90k crit, 45k-50k non-crit. Tested on PFUDOR Growing Storm arena mobs.



Thanks, looks like it's an AoE version of T1 2h/T2 DW (unblinded)
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post Nov 27 2013, 16:37
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Is the number of monsters you face in the hourlies dependent on the time that has passed since the last one? I often face 5-6 monsters when I start one exactly an hour after the previous one, and 8-10 when it's been longer. It could be just a coincidence, though.
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post Nov 27 2013, 16:41
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What are some things I should be looking to do? I still need an off-hand Wakizashi and a body piece for equipment... but I mean WHAT should I be doing? (Just started yesterday, so forgive me if I'm ruining everything already (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))

Level 15:
STR 14 DEX 14 AGI 14 END 14 INT 13 WIS 13

Main Hand: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a59654348f
Off-Hand: Needs a Wakizashi
Helmet: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1590d31953
Body: Need to buy
Hands: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bc52059ae7
Legs: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=65ab960c07
Feet: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b27903ab66

Abilities so far: HP Tank 1, 2H Damage 1, Light ACC, Light Crit 1, Light HP/MP 1

Training so far: Adept Learner 3/300, Ability Boost 1/15, Scavenger 1/50

All I've been doing so far is grindfesting, I've done the two arenas I can, have my first pet (only PL 1) and just wanna hear what you guys have in terms of suggestions on where to improve and tweak my build.

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post Nov 27 2013, 17:02
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QUOTE(Supermeistro @ Nov 27 2013, 22:41) *

What are some things I should be looking to do? I still need an off-hand Wakizashi and a body piece for equipment... but I mean WHAT should I be doing? (Just started yesterday, so forgive me if I'm ruining everything already (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))

Level 15:
STR 14 DEX 14 AGI 14 END 14 INT 13 WIS 13

Main Hand: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a59654348f
Off-Hand: Needs a Wakizashi
Helmet: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1590d31953
Body: Need to buy
Hands: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bc52059ae7
Legs: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=65ab960c07
Feet: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b27903ab66

Abilities so far: HP Tank 1, 2H Damage 1, Light ACC, Light Crit 1, Light HP/MP 1

Training so far: Adept Learner 3/300, Ability Boost 1/15, Scavenger 1/50

All I've been doing so far is grindfesting, I've done the two arenas I can, have my first pet (only PL 1) and just wanna hear what you guys have in terms of suggestions on where to improve and tweak my build.

Get some equipments from free shop in WTS first.
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post Nov 27 2013, 17:20
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QUOTE(Supermeistro @ Nov 27 2013, 23:41) *

What are some things I should be looking to do? I still need an off-hand Wakizashi and a body piece for equipment... but I mean WHAT should I be doing? (Just started yesterday, so forgive me if I'm ruining everything already (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))

In addition to Colman's advice to get some free equipment, you'd better get free potions, too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 27 2013, 17:21
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Read http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice first. And if you have the time, go back about 30 or so pages and read some of the questions and advice already given. Many of them are often repeated, and you'll get a better understanding of different styles, equipment and level advice.

And you'll definitely want to avoid niten style (Katana+Wakizashi) until you're a higher level, as that style does not give you any proficiency gain which are important for abilities.

Edit: Okay, maybe not definitely, but it's probably better to stick to one of the other styles first, since you'll probably level faster than you gain proficiency at lower levels.

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post Nov 27 2013, 17:23
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Nov 27 2013, 12:41) *

I don't know why anyone is melee'ing anymore. Mage can arguably do anything better than melee. Everyone should just drop their swords and pick up a staff. I have Leg Power of Prot and Leg Slaughter Power and would rather play mage with my Exq/Mag junk.

Takes less effort, I can do BT arenas without healing once so I can farm while I watch shows.

QUOTE(CapableScoutMan @ Nov 27 2013, 16:37) *

Is the number of monsters you face in the hourlies dependent on the time that has passed since the last one? I often face 5-6 monsters when I start one exactly an hour after the previous one, and 8-10 when it's been longer. It could be just a coincidence, though.

Just a coincidence.
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post Nov 27 2013, 17:27
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QUOTE(Valkrey @ Nov 27 2013, 17:21) *

Read http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice first. And if you have the time, go back about 30 or so pages and read some of the questions and advice already given. Many of them are often repeated, and you'll get a better understanding of different styles, equipment and level advice.

And you'll definitely want to avoid niten style (Katana+Wakizashi) until you're a higher level, as that style does not give you any proficiency gain which are important for abilities.

Edit: Okay, maybe not definitely, but it's probably better to stick to one of the other styles first, since you'll probably level faster than you gain proficiency at lower levels.


So to prepare for Niten later should I be switching between a Katana and whatever for a 1H weapon to build proficiencies with both for later, then?
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post Nov 27 2013, 17:32
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QUOTE(Supermeistro @ Nov 27 2013, 23:27) *

So to prepare for Niten later should I be switching between a Katana and whatever for a 1H weapon to build proficiencies with both for later, then?

You need to train both 2H and DW., but not 1H for Niten.
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