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which one will be the quickest to finish arena or item world in PFUDOR difficulty?
meele or mage type? if about lvl. around 300++
please give a reason. thx

People use amnesia shards to get the specific potency they want, such as Butcher lvl 5, or maybe just a specific combination of two potencies rather than having all four, or maybe get a specific element strike for ethereal weapons, etc.

I'm not quite sure what you meant about 'good rolls', but leveling items in IW has a chance to give either one of the potencies on this list depending on your equipment, with a slightly higher chance of leveling an existing potency over getting a new potency for subsequent levels. It's entirely possibly to get Butcher lvl 5 by the time you IW your weapon to lvl 5, and it's just as possible to get lvl 1 of all melee weapon potencies by lvl 4.

Thanks, I wasn't sure if there was a range of rolling, like attack speed can roll 1.5-2%, something like that. I will be on the lookout though for Butcher, as I can only do IW for my eth estoc in Hard (took 2 runs to do 1 level)!

which one will be the quickest to finish arena or item world in PFUDOR difficulty?
meele or mage type? if about lvl. around 300++
please give a reason. thx

Mage is always faster.

Thanks, I wasn't sure if there was a range of rolling, like attack speed can roll 1.5-2%, something like that. I will be on the lookout though for Butcher, as I can only do IW for my eth estoc in Hard (took 2 runs to do 1 level)!

I'd say don't worry too much about getting a specific stat unless your weapon's a good magnificent or higher. on a 2-hand weapon, all the stats are useful (except maybe overpower for maces, since stunned targets no longer parry). And if you think it's bad enough running 2x IW for lvl 1, wait till you reach lvl 5. it's going to be a pain. Still, IW gives decent exp. Also, amnesia shards are somewhat rare, and are worth something in WTS, so don't waste it unless you think your gear's really worth it.

Mage is always faster.

What he said. But that's assuming your gear's good enough to survive. I would think that being able to complete the run in the first place is more important than speed or difficulty.

And as to the reason, it's simply because mage spells do high damage compared to melee weapon damage. They are glass cannons designed to first-strike enemies, killing them before the player gets killed.

This post has been edited by Valkrey: Nov 26 2013, 13:03

done with agi and the endurance, which elemental should i get and for which kind of armor?

Doesn't matter, they all have different benefits, you only need full phase set with same suffix. I would say, base your element on what you can find. But if I had a choice, I'd probably go Freyr.

which one will be the quickest to finish arena or item world in PFUDOR difficulty?
meele or mage type? if about lvl. around 300++
please give a reason. thx

Around 300, mages won't be able to finish marathons on PF, or even BT/IWBTH. You will need shitloads of money to do that.

This post has been edited by Oversoul: Nov 26 2013, 15:46

Around 300, mages won't be able to finish marathons on PF, or even BT/IWBTH. You will need shitloads of money to do that.

Lets say mage can clear any marathon, whatever BH, IWBTH or PF, even before 300; But i really doubt the _fastest_ part. Though, I don't think its a matter of style. If your aim is to clear marathons fast, you need very good link + very top equips (and thats a matter of shitloads of money).

Mage is always faster.

thx for the answer. my next question is what is the advantage and disadvantage of meele and mage at lvl 300+ ?

Mage is always faster.

Depends, if you count by turns per round, yes. But if you factor in ping and the turn cap, melee can go as fast, or faster than mage under some circumstances.

thx for the answer. my next question is what is the advantage and disadvantage of meele and mage at lvl 300+ ?

Melee needs less attention, you can just mash buttons and kill. Tends to survive easier due to high evade/PMI/MMI etc. Melee can have stun. Needs more turns to kill.

More hand movements involved, you'll have to press a lot of buttons and pay attention as a mage, but you'll have to spend less turns per round to clear. Mage can get one-shot at times, especially if your gear is not great yet. Melee has this problem too on the lower levels, but is almost non-existent after 300. Mages can go on longer in Grindfest because of Coalesced mana and spirit theft in case you go dark.

what do you mean by "factor in ping and the turn cap". i dont quite understand what it means.
and by some circumstances, can u give me an example?

This post has been edited by k1r4y4m4t0: Nov 26 2013, 18:51

That's it this needs to stop, is there a script that generates a pop-up once my hp reach a certain threshold?

I always die when doing 100+ rounds because I keep forgetting to cast regen.

I should just stare at the whiteboard and write 100 times
"I will not forget to cast regen"

what do you mean by "factor in ping and the turn cap". i dont quite understand what it means.
and by some circumstances, can u give me an example?

You can only do 4 turns per second, that's the turn cap. People used to clear everything at ridiculous speeds when there was no cap.

If your ping, the time it takes for you to reach the Hentaiverse server, and the server to reach you back, is low enough, you'll be able to do 4 turns per second. At 4 turns per second melee is faster in some cases, because mages have to press more buttons and proc coalesced mana, which means they'll never ever reach the turn cap. Well, they can if they melee using mage gear.

It's very easy if you abuse Deprecating spells. Cast Silence on everything, and Imperil on everything except Urd. Depending on Urd's placement, it could mean that you won't be able to cast Imperil on something. If you want, you can cast Weaken on everything, or only on the monsters you think are scary. If you have Better MagNet, you can try casting MagNet on the dragons. Watch the spell timers and recast these spells as necessary.

If the dragons resist your debuffs, that's okay; you can keep trying as you are killing other things.

Once you are satisfied with the debuffs, kill Yggdrasil. Then kill whatever, but avoid Urd. If Urd is near the top of the screen, start working from the bottom up, and vice versa. It's actually easier if Urd is near the top of the screen, because spells don't propagate upwards very well. It all depends on enemy placement, but it's usually possible to kill the other two goddesses, the three dragons, and one or two of Real Life, IPU, or FSM before Urd dies.

If Urd dies prematurely, then that sucks, but if you keep the Deprecating spells up, then you shouldn't have any problems. Even in this case, you shouldn't need to use Ether Tap, Ether Theft, or Spirit Theft.

Thanks very much... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I made it today... and with your tips, it really was not trouble at all... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Urd came in the bottom, so it was easy manage to kill her lastly... Like you said, I abused of deprec... with Weaken and Silence spammed everywhere, I didn't need to use a single Spirit pot... It is really easy, only need some patience though... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thanks again... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

That's it this needs to stop, is there a script that generates a pop-up once my hp reach a certain threshold?

I always die when doing 100+ rounds because I keep forgetting to cast regen.

I should just stare at the whiteboard and write 100 times
"I will not forget to cast regen"

HV stat

mages have to press more buttons and proc coalesced mana, which means they'll never ever reach the turn cap. Well, they can if they melee using mage gear.

Technically, there is a keyboard key to cast a spell in the same spot you did in previous turn. With it you need about same "button hitting" as melee. And while this wont work as good, because when enemy dies you will slow down to switch target spot, in marathon hitting schoolgirls the same speed probably can be achieved.
edit: but this key doesnt matter much, as mage being "glass canon" really needs more attention and going after turn cap is asking to get yourself killed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by Wraithtouch: Nov 26 2013, 19:15

^no cuz offense spells have cooldown past T1.

So I'm trying to go with a DW Light armor build right now. Just started playing again after months away. Not really sure how to post all of my stats and stuff here without taking a lifetime to do it... I posted the gear I'm currently wearing here.

Wondering what I should be focusing on right now. I know I'm supposed to change that off hand, and I suppose just grind for awhile?

Eventually I would like to go Niten, but I assume that I should build up my proficiencies first.

This post has been edited by Zilveari: Nov 26 2013, 23:09

So I'm trying to go with a DW Light armor build right now. Just started playing again after months away. Not really sure how to post all of my stats and stuff here without taking a lifetime to do it... I posted the gear I'm currently wearing here.

Wondering what I should be focusing on right now. I know I'm supposed to change that off hand, and I suppose just grind for awhile?

Eventually I would like to go Niten, but I assume that I should build up my proficiencies first.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice

you need 2h and DW to use niten effectively, so plan on not going there til your wpn profs near max. Go full shade only if you can handle the lower defense / have enough evade. more likely gonna need some leather / kevlar pieces to keep you alive. With leather / kevlar, aim for protection suffix. check my shop in link if you want some cheap light armor. Can mix the 2 no worries, and keep different equip set mixes for difficulty changes too.

at your level there's nothing you can do except grind. You can pump your adept learner training for more xp.

This post has been edited by etothex: Nov 26 2013, 23:51

HV stat

Really? didn't say so on their thread though an I'm using the lite version.

Edit:
Just tried it out and its awesome! I have been blind for so long......now I'll never die again

This post has been edited by LOL50015: Nov 27 2013, 05:33

Really? didn't say so on their thread though an I'm using the lite version.

Of course, the lite version's not developed by the same guy.

Of course, the lite version's not developed by the same guy.

Oh, this is a surprise, I thought they were a team or something.