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Nov 22 2013, 07:29
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MuffDiver99
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holy shit, how do you even end of days? I have to fight the bosses all the way from stage 50 and up? wtf you kidding me?
I couldn't even beat them on normal, lv 66 and that was as far as I could go...
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Nov 22 2013, 07:36
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varst
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QUOTE(MuffDiver99 @ Nov 22 2013, 13:29)  holy shit, how do you even end of days? I have to fight the bosses all the way from stage 50 and up? wtf you kidding me?
I couldn't even beat them on normal, lv 66 and that was as far as I could go...
What's your fighting type? 1H/2H/DW/holy mage/dark mage/elem mage? What are the equips you're using? And what's your strategy so far?
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Nov 22 2013, 07:40
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MuffDiver99
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QUOTE(varst @ Nov 22 2013, 07:36)  What's your fighting type? 1H/2H/DW/holy mage/dark mage/elem mage? What are the equips you're using? And what's your strategy so far?
well my setup was posted like 3 pages ago, I got some equip donations from better players, but the setup remains largely the same. it's 2 hand melee light armor build because it's on normal so I usually just go in and cast haste and then imperil the bosses so I could kill them quicker. I don't want to cast weaken because right now it cost me more to cast weaken than imperil. I use spirit stance as often as I can because it's relatively cheap compare to magic. This post has been edited by MuffDiver99: Nov 22 2013, 07:44
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Nov 22 2013, 08:06
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varst
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1H/DW is more suited to deal with schoolgirl arenas. It doesn't mean 2H can't go through the arena though; you just need to plan more. You need something that can give you PA so you can kill faster. Either ethereal estoc, holy/dark estoc with void shard, or T2 2H skill. You also need some better weapon. Ethereal mace of balance won't bring you anywhere.
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Nov 22 2013, 08:14
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MuffDiver99
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I still have overcharge skills to cover my ass. the way the fight goes my overcharge meter refills fast enough so I can rely solely on the overcharge to get through the fights, but I am still taking quite a bit of damage per round.
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Nov 22 2013, 08:28
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zen_zen
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Nov 21 2013, 16:48)  You're stating the obvious. Anyway, you missed the point, my point was....it is possible for you to finish your last 10 rounds without any pots because you are melee, why would you think I'm the only one? Lastly, I have absolutely no idea why you would randomly bring hellfest into the story.
Doing Arena in PF without pots, how do you do it? If you say use Focus to recover Mana, forget it. My internet connection is slow, very slow. I am lucky if I can finish 40-50 rounds of Arena or IW per hour. At the best of times, my connection is probably still slower than nobody_xxx' worst connection. It takes me about 3 1/2 hours to complete 172 round IW in BT, similarly with the marathon 1 and 2 in IWBTH or PFUDOR as is. If I have to add Focus to the equation, my completion time will become intolerably longer. @cruelsion: Hath, what hath? I am very poor dude! As illustrated by my reply to oversoul, 1 run of IW or Marathon 1 or 2 is the max that I can play per day plus RE when possible, and I detest playing the marathon of fighting never-changing SGs, it puts me to sleep quicker than anything else. I only play the marathon when I am in a dire need of credits. Playing IW may have a good pay off at the end but as far as drops go, IW is pretty poor.
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Nov 22 2013, 08:40
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cruelsion
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Nov 22 2013, 17:28)  Doing Arena in PF without pots, how do you do it? If you say use Focus to recover Mana, forget it. My internet connection is slow, very slow. I am lucky if I can finish 40-50 rounds of Arena or IW per hour. At the best of times, my connection is probably still slower than nobody_xxx' worst connection. It takes me about 3 1/2 hours to complete 172 round IW in BT, similarly with the marathon 1 and 2 in IWBTH or PFUDOR as is. If I have to add Focus to the equation, my completion time will become intolerably longer.
@cruelsion: Hath, what hath? I am very poor dude! As illustrated by my reply to oversoul, 1 run of IW or Marathon 1 or 2 is the max that I can play per day plus RE when possible, and I detest playing the marathon of fighting never-changing SGs, it puts me to sleep quicker than anything else. I only play the marathon when I am in a dire need of credits. Playing IW may have a good pay off at the end but as far as drops go, IW is pretty poor.
At least you dont have debt like me... Anyway clearing pfudor marathons are more easy than boring but im at uni atm so ill tell you when I get home. Maybe just w8 a bit and others will tell you how (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Nov 22 2013, 09:41
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rickraws
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QUOTE(Slobber @ Nov 19 2013, 01:17)  Random Encounters will give you very good EXP. Do it on as high difficulty as you can. Also consider doing your daily arenas on as high difficulty as you can manage as well. Get those item slot trainings maxed.
Are there any other reasons for doing arenas and RoB on higher difficulty besides extra exp, credits, and the tier roll bonus? Those are the only things I noticed on the wiki but that seems pretty underwhelming.
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Nov 22 2013, 09:43
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MuffDiver99
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shit, end of days is such a pain in the ass. just finished that fight and every fight literally took forever to finish
is dual wielding really that much better than 2 hand weapons on that fight? you still have to spend at least 6 fights to take out everyone else before you can take on the boss characters, that gives them a significant head start
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Nov 22 2013, 10:30
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Oversoul
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Nov 22 2013, 07:28)  Doing Arena in PF without pots, how do you do it? If you say use Focus to recover Mana, forget it. My internet connection is slow, very slow. I am lucky if I can finish 40-50 rounds of Arena or IW per hour. At the best of times, my connection is probably still slower than nobody_xxx' worst connection. It takes me about 3 1/2 hours to complete 172 round IW in BT, similarly with the marathon 1 and 2 in IWBTH or PFUDOR as is. If I have to add Focus to the equation, my completion time will become intolerably longer.
If it's really that slow, you should consider maging. I was indeed talking about focus combined with spirit theft for infinite sustain, the proc chance is decent for T2/T3 dark spell, the lvl 300 ability helps a lot though. Not that I'm using focus, just saying it's a possibility you can consider if you run out of pots on last few rounds. And if you're DW with club, you don't have to worry about getting hit at all. I can focus few times a second. Guess living in EU is a perk. :3
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Nov 22 2013, 13:26
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aznknightfire
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Is it worth trying to get Scavenger, Luck of the Draw, and Quartermaster? Is it really that useful before maxed? My question is because I'd rather put those credits toward gear that I'll use for a very long time. I doubt I'd find much useful stuff to sell compared to the uber ppls.
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Nov 22 2013, 13:36
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Colman
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QUOTE(erojh jioj @ Nov 22 2013, 19:26)  Is it worth trying to get Scavenger, Luck of the Draw, and Quartermaster? Is it really that useful before maxed? My question is because I'd rather put those credits toward gear that I'll use for a very long time. I doubt I'd find much useful stuff to sell compared to the uber ppls.
They are useful when they are cheap. They may not worth when each level require 1M+ credits (besides LotD)
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Nov 22 2013, 14:42
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MuffDiver99
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is there no more x-nerf after update? that was one of the spells that I liked the most, but I never had the chance to get it.
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Nov 22 2013, 15:15
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n125
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QUOTE(MuffDiver99 @ Nov 22 2013, 04:42)  is there no more x-nerf after update? that was one of the spells that I liked the most, but I never had the chance to get it.
Nerf and X-Nerf are both gone; yes. It's not the same, but if you invest in Faster Weaken, you can get Weaken to cover three targets. Flame Spike Shield can apply Searing Skin, which is a 10% damage reduction proc, but it's unreliable.
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Nov 22 2013, 16:46
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erwtsnert
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QUOTE(erojh jioj @ Nov 22 2013, 14:26)  Is it worth trying to get Scavenger, Luck of the Draw, and Quartermaster? Is it really that useful before maxed? My question is because I'd rather put those credits toward gear that I'll use for a very long time. I doubt I'd find much useful stuff to sell compared to the uber ppls.
It's better to invest into gear early on, once it gets hard to buy better equips in stores you should start putting some points in the trainings. A few you need early on are adept learner, pack rat and maybe ability boost, so set some credits aside for those 3. Max Luck of the Draw as quickly as possibly after those, the rest is up to you.
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Nov 22 2013, 16:57
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wastedman
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Nov 22 2013, 22:46)  It's better to invest into gear early on, once it gets hard to buy better equips in stores you should start putting some points in the trainings.
A few you need early on are adept learner, pack rat and maybe ability boost, so set some credits aside for those 3. Max Luck of the Draw as quickly as possibly after those, the rest is up to you.
Would you mind to explain a bit more about maxing LotD as it needs 18m to reach the max, meaning I pretty much have to stop other consumption. Thanks. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Nov 22 2013, 20:54
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zen_zen
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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Nov 21 2013, 22:40)  At least you dont have debt like me... Anyway clearing pfudor marathons are more easy than boring but im at uni atm so ill tell you when I get home. Maybe just w8 a bit and others will tell you how (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Going into debt to enhance your ability was your choice because you were confident that you can pay it off. I don't have that luxury, because of my slow connection I can be playing for hours but only finish 1 run of IW or Marathon 1 or 2. It wouldn't be fair to the debtor to drag on the debt interminably. QUOTE(Oversoul @ Nov 22 2013, 00:30)  If it's really that slow, you should consider maging. I was indeed talking about focus combined with spirit theft for infinite sustain, the proc chance is decent for T2/T3 dark spell, the lvl 300 ability helps a lot though. Not that I'm using focus, just saying it's a possibility you can consider if you run out of pots on last few rounds. And if you're DW with club, you don't have to worry about getting hit at all. I can focus few times a second. Guess living in EU is a perk. :3
You are so right that living in EU or Asia is a perk, as far as electronic media goes. My connection is slow but it never bothered me in most situation, only in HV is it a problem. I am pretty close to Lv300 now, at the least I want to clear DwD in IWBTH but it doesn't seem much of an achievement since cruelsion says he can do it bare-naked. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Nov 22 2013, 20:56
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erwtsnert
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QUOTE(wastedman @ Nov 22 2013, 17:57)  Would you mind to explain a bit more about maxing LotD as it needs 18m to reach the max, meaning I pretty much have to stop other consumption. Thanks. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Higher LoTD, better drops, that's about it. You won't get those 15m legendaries without it.
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