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post Nov 19 2013, 00:11
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QUOTE(watisthis @ Nov 18 2013, 22:51) *

Sold 2 shade pieces of fleet, average and a fine. Had 3 PAB on them to the bazaar and people still bought them. Apparently there's still a market for these when I thought wolfgirl killed the fine/average market.

WHERE DO I FIND THESE PEOPLE?!

If they're looking for items in the bazaar, they probably don't frequent the forums, in which case finding them is essentially impossible.
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post Nov 19 2013, 00:23
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QUOTE(Ayperos @ Nov 18 2013, 22:18) *

don't know if I cry or laugh about this...



I went from ~160 to ~320 in 3 weeks and first 2 weeks was without gold star. So it's not that hard. If I remember correctly, Random Encounter PF gives you 10-20% exp at great stamina on your level, it's all about stamina management. I rushed my Adept Learner to ~170/300 though

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post Nov 19 2013, 00:56
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Nov 18 2013, 20:23) *

I went from ~160 to ~320 in 3 weeks and first 2 weeks was without gold star. So it's not that hard. If I remember correctly, Random Encounter PF gives you 10-20% exp at great stamina on your level, it's all about stamina management. I rushed my Adept Learner to ~170/300 though


Can't argue about that as 80% of my lvl up is based on random encounters. but at least a minimum of 170 at adept? Sheesh and here i was thinking that my 75 was good enough for my current lvl...

Also is there any tool like hv tool or something related that give me a data comparison on all I have learned on training?

I have invested some points in luck of the draw, scavenger and quartermaster, but besides what the training window tells me i can't really grasp the whole situation nicely, a way to see it in a chart would really help me.
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post Nov 19 2013, 01:05
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QUOTE(rancidmeat @ Nov 18 2013, 13:36) *

I'd have to second that.

The bonus at level 10 is amazing but it takes god f'in forever to get there. And the bonuses prior to level 10 feel very... underwhelming, probably not worth the time unless you're really aiming to hit level 10. I was running ~40 min runs on Nightmare for my weapon and I positive I would have made more money overall just getting it sent off to an IW service and took the time instead to grind out credits in arena in the time it took me to finish that damn weapon. Just FYI, level 9 -> 10 for me was 17 runs @ Nightmare (thank god for dual computer screens, watching anime on the other). I think level 8 -> 9 was around 13 or 14 runs.

For the most part, you also won't have a weapon worth grinding IW for either until higher levels unless you get crazy lucky (which I did) or find some very generous donations from others.


I'd have to disagree with your second statement. If you limit yourself to IW'ing equipments that drop in your own battles that statement is certainly true but by scouring WTS and the auctions, anyone can find many worthy equipment to IW.

Doing IW is not the be all, end all of equipment enhancement, it's just another step to ease the pain of the grind just a bit. Having outgrown my first set of Lv 10 Axe/Rapier which got me to about level 275, I am on my second Lv10 Axe/Rapier set which I'd expect I'll be replacing them around level 350. I am currently IW'ing in BT at around 80 to 90% completion rate for Exquisite class equipment, I'll start on the Magnificent class equipment when I feel confident of finishing the runs with the same success ratio.
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post Nov 19 2013, 02:21
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I haven't found the answer so i'm asking the espert when does a monster brings you a gift.
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At every win??
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post Nov 19 2013, 02:30
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QUOTE(jef76 @ Nov 18 2013, 21:21) *

I haven't found the answer so i'm asking the espert when does a monster brings you a gift.
Ty
At every win??


The chance to receive a gift is based on how many battles a monster has won since they last delivered a gift, modified by their morale (updated dynamically; a monster that goes from yellow morale to green may bring a gift as soon as they are fed the crystals/pills).

Fleeing from battle counts as a win for the monsters involved.

"Battles won" does NOT count:

Deaths to a player's own monsters (to prevent abuse)
There is a cooldown on how often a player can count as a repeat win (also to prevent abuse)
Spark of Life being triggered

Link: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Monster_Lab
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post Nov 19 2013, 03:18
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disregard this comment from a lazy bum who have not the courage to read properly

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post Nov 19 2013, 03:20
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QUOTE(Ayperos @ Nov 19 2013, 02:18) *

wait wait wait.

Spark of life counts as a kill? Drek! And here i was believing that i wasn't giving wins to any monster anymore...



"Battles won" does NOT count:
Spark of Life being triggered


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post Nov 19 2013, 04:50
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@nobody cat have a lot yellow star in his head
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he can boast his exp when he farming (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

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and we still got a lot problem with internet connection.
especially speedy user.

they block this address.

I unable to open g.e for the first time it's got blocked (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)



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post Nov 19 2013, 05:07
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QUOTE(rancidmeat @ Nov 18 2013, 16:36) *

I'd have to second that.

The bonus at level 10 is amazing but it takes god f'in forever to get there. And the bonuses prior to level 10 feel very... underwhelming, probably not worth the time unless you're really aiming to hit level 10. I was running ~40 min runs on Nightmare for my weapon and I positive I would have made more money overall just getting it sent off to an IW service and took the time instead to grind out credits in arena in the time it took me to finish that damn weapon. Just FYI, level 9 -> 10 for me was 17 runs @ Nightmare (thank god for dual computer screens, watching anime on the other). I think level 8 -> 9 was around 13 or 14 runs.

For the most part, you also won't have a weapon worth grinding IW for either until higher levels unless you get crazy lucky (which I did) or find some very generous donations from others.




It's a very simple cost effectiveness equation. Determine what an average round of arenas earns you and what an average round of IW earns you. Go with the one that gains more in less time.
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post Nov 19 2013, 07:38
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At level 61:
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So there's my stats. Now for my problem: basically I'm just not the most savviest person around when it comes to stat allocation in such games. So honestly I don't know if I have a decent build or if I'm doing everything completely wrong. All of my equipment is level 0 currently because for the life of me I can't acquire any materials for upgrading in the forge and I pretty much cannot survive the 100+ rounds for Item World on any of my decent equipment. Advice would be helpful at this point.
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post Nov 19 2013, 07:53
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QUOTE(R.D. @ Nov 19 2013, 13:38) *

Now for my problem: basically I'm just not the most savviest person around when it comes to stat allocation in such games. So honestly I don't know if I have a decent build or if I'm doing everything completely wrong.


Stat allocation is fine as long as it's within 80% to 120% of your current level. Let the equips do the un-balancing for you.
As for equip, can't say much without the exact link (point at the equip and press 'c' to get the link).

QUOTE(R.D. @ Nov 19 2013, 13:38) *

All of my equipment is level 0 currently because for the life of me I can't acquire any materials for upgrading in the forge...


Don't worry about forging at your level.

QUOTE(R.D. @ Nov 19 2013, 13:38) *

...and I pretty much cannot survive the 100+ rounds for Item World on any of my decent equipment.


Don't worry about IWing at your level.

QUOTE(R.D. @ Nov 19 2013, 13:38) *

Advice would be helpful at this point.


Focus on leveling first. Think about forging/IWing when you get something really decent (something sold in WTS for a million+, for example) and when you can afford that.

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post Nov 19 2013, 07:58
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I recommend focus on attributes:

Dexterity(parry and critical)/Agility(Evade and attack speed)/Wisdom(MP, magic regen and resist chance) or Endurance(HP and Midigation).

Keep others equal to your level.

Try to use DW with large parry bonus and try to reduce the interference or high usage of MP in support spells.
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post Nov 19 2013, 08:04
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For Two-Handed I'm using this:

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=740f5194dd

For Dual-Wielding I'm using these two weapons currently:

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=fb9e91dfba
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8a1155e418

And for my armor I'm using these:

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b6a883c0d6
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=98b8d0e62c
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d7350ed3ff
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=18c64689e8
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1471541491

I've also been using the katana and wakizashi for Niten when I'm not farming proficiency for 2H and DW. Would be nice if Niten would work for those, even at a lower rate.

How would I go about reducing interference?

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post Nov 19 2013, 08:14
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QUOTE(R.D. @ Nov 19 2013, 03:04) *

How would I go about reducing interference?


Shade Arcanist(low interference and no burden) / Ethereal(no interference and burden) / Battlecaster(mana conservation and no interference)

Example: I can with the equipment I own 11.9 Interference and 0 burden.

The equipment you have listed are good for a beginner.

Tip: If you're low on magic point let a monster left that gives low damage and use focus to fill your MP. Always have 25% overcharge at least to make it.

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post Nov 19 2013, 08:27
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If you have spare credits...
For 2H, mace/estoc would be better, ethereal/slaughter are something you'd go for.
For DW, grab a rapier in Offhand. Try to get ethereal club/axe of slaughter if you can.

For armor, here are some useful suffix:
leather -> protection
shade -> fleet, shadowdancer
plate -> protection
power -> slaughter
(Note that it all depends on the equips stats. Something legendary/magnificent with wrong suffix can still be used).

You can easily grab some upgrade in WTS. Don't rush for upgrades though: equips which worths about a few times of your daily earning should be enough. Or try to find something from the free shops.

Don't worry so much about interference for now. It's like the natural limitation on melee's survivability.
Using ethereal should be the way to go if you want to lower that.

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post Nov 19 2013, 09:26
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Was wondering if my stats were too uneven or not for the build I'm using. I dont use any offensive spells so I haven't felt the need to raise intelligence, and with blocking and mitigation from equips I've been doing okay with the wisdom I have so far. But will I need to catch these stats up soon?

Is it worth investing in elemental damage on my weapons to take advantage of the lower elemental resistance the enhance protection spell gives? Or does that only apply to spell damage (wasn't sure based on the wiki info)?

Should I even bother raising my pet up or should I wait until I can afford the large amounts of crystals? It's at pl 132 and hasn't brought me anything yet.

Lastly, I'm currently lvling by doing grindfest @ battletoads for 10 rounds or so and then starting over when I run out of items. Is there a more efficient way to go about it?

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post Nov 19 2013, 11:12
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QUOTE(rickraws @ Nov 19 2013, 15:26) *

Was wondering if my stats were too uneven or not for the build I'm using. I dont use any offensive spells so I haven't felt the need to raise intelligence, and with blocking and mitigation from equips I've been doing okay with the wisdom I have so far. But will I need to catch these stats up soon?

Is it worth investing in elemental damage on my weapons to take advantage of the lower elemental resistance the enhance protection spell gives? Or does that only apply to spell damage (wasn't sure based on the wiki info)?

Should I even bother raising my pet up or should I wait until I can afford the large amounts of crystals? It's at pl 132 and hasn't brought me anything yet.

Lastly, I'm currently lvling by doing grindfest @ battletoads for 10 rounds or so and then starting over when I run out of items. Is there a more efficient way to go about it?

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Melee character do not need int. However, WIS is important as WIS increases the amount thus more heal/supportive spells can be used.

Elemental damage is only for mage.

Pet should as least give you something every two days. Did you name it and feed it?

GF give better reward (time-wise) on lower difficulty. Beware that 1000+ round below Hell would reduce the drop rate.

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post Nov 19 2013, 11:17
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You won't need Int
Wis could use a little increasing (80% of AGI)

Not sure what you're talking about. Are you talking about elemental strike?
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Elemental_Strike#Elemental

Economics-wise, monster pets weren't designed for low levels. It was designed for high levels with nothing else to do.

Random Encounters will give you very good EXP. Do it on as high difficulty as you can. Also consider doing your daily arenas on as high difficulty as you can manage as well. Get those item slot trainings maxed.
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post Nov 19 2013, 11:26
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Yeah I was talking about elemental strike since the enhanced protection ability causes searing skin when I get struck so I thought I might as well take advantage of it. My pet's named and all full on morale and hunger so I guess it's just lazy =/. Thanks for the help though, it's much appreciated
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