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post Nov 8 2013, 08:13
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Nov 8 2013, 07:18) *

What's Overcharge Auto hit? I only play DW but I find Frenzied blow virtually useless when dealing with the PL mobs. The OC cost is very high because of the chaining of the skills and for the equivalent OC cost, I find that I can do substantially more damage to just flail away with SS engaged than to execute the skill. The only time I use FB skills is when I am fighting the schoolgirls or FSM in RoB.

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post Nov 8 2013, 14:27
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In the wiki, http://ehwiki.org/wiki/AP#Ability_Points

In the better regen part, does HOT means the percentage of total HP or base HP heal per turn?
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post Nov 8 2013, 15:06
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^Regen is based on base health, Better Regen augments Regen. So base health and not max health.
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post Nov 8 2013, 16:43
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I also kind of wonder,

what heal rate would allow you to go into a normal Mag item world with regen turned on and never dying?

( I mean, how many HP healed per turn)

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post Nov 8 2013, 16:47
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Nov 8 2013, 15:43) *

I also kind of wonder,

what heal rate would allow you to go into a normal Mag item world with regen turned on and never dying?

( I mean, how many HP healed per turn)


On normal diff? I can go forever on normal diff with regen on. Regen heals like 1300 (for me) per turn, and normal monsters don't even get close to that number in term of damage.

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post Nov 8 2013, 17:11
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Nov 8 2013, 22:43) *

I also kind of wonder,

what heal rate would allow you to go into a normal Mag item world with regen turned on and never dying?

( I mean, how many HP healed per turn)

It depends on your defense but not the regen rate.
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post Nov 8 2013, 17:15
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Nov 8 2013, 04:27) *

In the better regen part, does HOT means the percentage of total HP or base HP heal per turn?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Curative
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post Nov 8 2013, 17:44
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QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 8 2013, 23:11) *

It depends on your defense but not the regen rate.


I think my defence is weak since I'm using full shade gear and focus more on AGI/evade

I'm at 41.3 PMI and 36.4 MMI 41.9 Parry and 39.1 resist

One thing I'm surprised is that despite having 268(157+111) AGI which is 90% my level and 3 fleet gear, my evade is only 27.1

I had thought of going max evade since if they can't hit you, if doesn't matter if you're squishy, but this doesn't seem to be working.
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post Nov 8 2013, 17:49
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Nov 8 2013, 23:44) *

I think my defence is weak since I'm using full shade gear and focus more on AGI/evade

I'm at 41.3 PMI and 36.4 MMI 41.9 Parry and 39.1 resist

One thing I'm surprised is that despite having 268(157+111) AGI which is 90% my level and 3 fleet gear, my evade is only 27.1

I had thought of going max evade since if they can't hit you, if doesn't matter if you're squishy, but this doesn't seem to be working.

Are you having 0 burden?
0 burden is very important for shade user.
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post Nov 8 2013, 17:54
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QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 8 2013, 23:49) *

Are you having 0 burden?
0 burden is very important for shade user.


I have 10 burden. Will drop it to 7 soon once I go shopping. Which is below the 40 threshold for penalty.

Edit:
Wait!!! I just checked the wiki every burden -evade by 3/4%!!
Shit! I never noticed this!



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post Nov 8 2013, 17:56
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Nov 8 2013, 23:54) *

I have 10 burden. Will drop it to 7 soon once I go shopping. Which is below the 40 threshold for penalty.

Evade start droping for burden >0.
You can try feather shard and see the different.

Btw, hv is slow for me atm (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif).

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post Nov 8 2013, 18:18
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Luckily I have a temporary solution.

But it will be mighty hard finding an ethereal replacement for my weapon.
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post Nov 8 2013, 18:21
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Nov 9 2013, 00:18) *

Luckily I have a temporary solution.

But it will be mighty hard finding an ethereal replacement for my weapon.

What weapon are you using?
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post Nov 8 2013, 18:25
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What weapon are you using?


I'm using a rapier of slaughter

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post Nov 8 2013, 18:26
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Nov 9 2013, 00:25) *

I'm using a rapier of slaughter

Exq+ class?
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post Nov 8 2013, 18:30
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QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 8 2013, 10:56) *

Evade start droping for burden >0.



so 7.7 burden will reduce evade for 7.7*3 = 23.1%? 23.1% of current evade or .. overall evade?

edit: ah nvm it doesn't reduce that much.

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post Nov 8 2013, 18:35
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QUOTE(hihohahi @ Nov 9 2013, 00:30) *

so 7.7 burden will reduce evade for 7.7*3 = 23.1%? 23.1% of current evade or .. overall evade?

edit: ah nvm it doesn't reduce that much.

Not that much. According to my memory. Penalty of burden on evade is

(Burden *4/3%)^1.5
to the current evade before burden.

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Evade = 1 - (1 - shadow_veil) * (1- (1 - Min((Burden * 4/3%)^1.5 , 1)) * (1 - (1 - equip_bonus) * (1 - title_bonus) * (1 - AGI * 0.04%)))

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post Nov 8 2013, 18:36
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hi guys,
I have a question for melee players.
Can you tell me the best (or rare) prefix and suffix and type for 1h weapons and dw weapons, also for light armor?
Thanks.

edit: so ethereal weapons for 0 burden, slaughter for damage, club/axe + rapier
Oh, shadowdancer shade.
Thanks.

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post Nov 8 2013, 18:47
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QUOTE(wastedman @ Nov 8 2013, 17:36) *

hi guys,
I have a question for melee players.
Can you tell me the best (or rare) prefix and suffix and type for 1h weapons and dw weapons, also for light armor?
Thanks.


In my opinion
Main hand: Ethereal Club/Axe of Slaughter
Off hand: Ethereal Rapier of Balance/Slaughter
Light: Agile Shade of Shadowdancer

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post Nov 8 2013, 19:17
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QUOTE(wastedman @ Nov 8 2013, 11:36) *

hi guys,
I have a question for melee players.
Can you tell me the best (or rare) prefix and suffix and type for 1h weapons and dw weapons, also for light armor?
Thanks.

edit: so ethereal weapons for 0 burden, slaughter for damage, club/axe + rapier
Oh, shadowdancer snade.
Thanks.



QUOTE(Oversoul @ Nov 8 2013, 11:47) *

In my opinion
Main hand: Ethereal Club/Axe of Slaughter
Off hand: Ethereal Rapier of Balance/Slaughter
Light: Agile Shade of Shadowdancer


those opinions look great to me. I'll add that
-using rapier in 1H should be most effective
-in DW, important to try MH axe with heavy armor and use a MH club with light
-I wouldn't be unhappy with Savage Shade
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