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PMI/MMI isn't really important for mages, evade is what you want.

I got 31.9, what's the average for my level or what's yours when you are around the same level?
Also only evade sounds dangerous, as I may not be able to increase difficulty when I level up more as mobs hit harder and I am only trying to evade. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thanks for letting me know AGI is the most important attribute.

I've always been heavy, so I can't really comment on that. You should rely on Spirit Shield to block damage evade lets through. the body part of phase can have a max of 3.8% base PMI at Leg quality, that's just garbage. Power of Protection can go up to 13.03% for the same slot, with Plate of Protection topping at 16.8%.

PMI of Phase or cotton gear is just too bad to get high PMI/MMI with, it's not what you should be aiming for.
As a mage, offense comes first. You shouldn't even need to worry that much about surviving as you just blast them away before they use their spirit/mana skills.

Can anyone post the link in the wiki pertaining to damage bonus when using Holy weapons?

Hi, is there a way to add a second quickbar, because i want to put all my elemental spells but they not fit

I got 31.9, what's the average for my level or what's yours when you are around the same level?
Also only evade sounds dangerous, as I may not be able to increase difficulty when I level up more as mobs hit harder and I am only trying to evade. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Thanks for letting me know AGI is the most important attribute.

I am using mostly crappish superior phase, so, my stats not that good, but for reference:
PMI:41.7 MMI:47.4 Evade:32.3 Parry11.2

No chance I would survive on high difficulty without silence/weaken, but with debuffs, RE or high arenas are pretty easy, just slow

This post has been edited by Wraithtouch: Nov 6 2013, 02:34

Hi, is there a way to add a second quickbar, because i want to put all my elemental spells but they not fit

Check HentaiVerse Scripts & Tools for additional mod.
QuickBar 2 or Multiple QuickBar should be your choice(if the mod isn't broken in this version of HV)

in my old record , when my ping is still 250-280ms (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

2H 40 min usually , but sometimes reach 3H coz I need to replay post here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
now my estoc have more higher damage , so I think I can go faster but my ping is suck so I don't grind anymore in HV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
xtech can clear hellfest around 1H 40 min ( he have 1 of the best estoc in HV ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

he don't using any sroll or shard and feather , but he have nearly 85% PMI with full plate set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
he have 4T/s (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Thanks for the answer. Awesome 100 minutes! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
2H is the fastest as expected, of course when the weapon and gears are fully forged. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
But I don't have money to buy a good 2H weapon, but also to buy even few bindings of slaughter.
I should stick with my 1H Heavy style for a long time.
For now, I'm going to get Crystarium II and Vigorous Vitality. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thanks for the answer. Awesome 100 minutes! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
2H is the fastest as expected, of course when the weapon and gears are fully forged. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
But I don't have money to buy a good 2H weapon, but also to buy even few bindings of slaughter.
I should stick with my 1H Heavy style for a long time.
For now, I'm going to get Crystarium II and Vigorous Vitality. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Trying 1H heavy hell GF right now. Will update this post with the result later.

Clear Hell GF in 3 hours and 5 minutes
ADB 5240



This post has been edited by Colman: Nov 6 2013, 12:51

I am using mostly crappish superior phase, so, my stats not that good, but for reference:
PMI:41.7 MMI:47.4 Evade:32.3 Parry11.2

No chance I would survive on high difficulty without silence/weaken, but with debuffs, RE or high arenas are pretty easy, just slow

How do you do TT&T, for example?
As right now I am doing decent speed on hard for all arenas, a bit slow on noodly.
Debuffs are good, but you cannot do well when facing a bunch of leg bosses in the same RoB.
Your strategy?

How do you do TT&T, for example?
As right now I am doing decent speed on hard for all arenas, a bit slow on noodly.
Debuffs are good, but you cannot do well when facing a bunch of leg bosses in the same RoB.
Your strategy?

Oh, I only cleared TTT on normal for credits bonus. Not getting enough tokens to do this daily and to aim for higher difficulty. I am sticking to Pfudor FSM and this one is easy enough with debuffs, but slow is right word (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
After finishing Schoolgirls, there is no need to weaken FSM too; if special attacks are locked, basic damage is low. Well, that applies to all bosses.
Hardest part comes when FSM resists/evades re-silence and you cant put it to sleep due to Vital Theft (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I am often doing focus before casting silence, as wiki says it "reduce monsters' resist chance by 50%", but I dont know if it really works with deprecating spells. Can anyone confirm this?

LOL I now have the chance to lower my INT points to 0, being an melee player should I do that? or is it better to keep it at 1.

Keep that at around 80% of your level even if you don't like it. The benefit of lowering that below 80% is almost outweighted by the SP lost.

Trying 1H heavy hell GF right now. Will update this post with the result later.

Clear Hell GF in 3 hours and 5 minutes
ADB 5240

Congratulations for you've done your long term target. Update your next target (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

HP & MP shows that you have VV & EE. I want to have these... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
How much was your PMI?

Congratulations for you've done your long term target. Update your next target (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

HP & MP shows that you have VV & EE. I want to have these... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
How much was your PMI?

PMI 75.4
With the current shield, I think I can further lower my PMI for higher ADB.

I have both VV and EE. IMO, VV is useful that make SS not necessary until the last 50 rounds in Hell GF with heavy. EE is completely useless.



This post has been edited by Colman: Nov 6 2013, 13:15

Oh, I only cleared TTT on normal for credits bonus. Not getting enough tokens to do this daily and to aim for higher difficulty. I am sticking to Pfudor FSM and this one is easy enough with debuffs, but slow is right word (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
After finishing Schoolgirls, there is no need to weaken FSM too; if special attacks are locked, basic damage is low. Well, that applies to all bosses.
Hardest part comes when FSM resists/evades re-silence and you cant put it to sleep due to Vital Theft (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I am often doing focus before casting silence, as wiki says it "reduce monsters' resist chance by 50%", but I dont know if it really works with deprecating spells. Can anyone confirm this?

For FSM Pfudor, slow is not enough, as you are just waiting for it to end ... eventually.
Is there any chance you will be defeated? Also is it really worth to go Pfudor FSM, as I am not holy mage and I am afraid of running out of potions.

Also how do you switch from elemental to training dark or holy, as the magic score goes down a lot.

This post has been edited by wastedman: Nov 6 2013, 14:19

For FSM Pfudor, slow is not enough, as you are just waiting for it to end ... eventually.
Is there any chance you will be defeated? Also is it really worth to go Pfudor FSM, as I am not holy mage and I am afraid of running out of potions.

Also how do you switch from elemental to training dark or holy, as the magic score goes down a lot.

just try it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

use focus if needed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

just silence and weaken + ( maybe blind too if needed ) FSM and schoolgirls

For FSM Pfudor, slow is not enough, as you are just waiting for it to end ... eventually.
Is there any chance you will be defeated? Also is it really worth to go Pfudor FSM, as I am not holy mage and I am afraid of running out of potions.

Also how do you switch from elemental to training dark or holy, as the magic score goes down a lot.

You could try it first on BT/IWBTH and see how you fare before attempting PF. FSM PF is not as hard as it seems, I barely lose 10% hp and that's without any debuffs. :3

just try it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

use focus if needed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

just silence and weaken + ( maybe blind too if needed ) FSM and schoolgirls

You could try it first on BT/IWBTH and see how you fare before attempting PF. FSM PF is not as hard as it seems, I barely lose 10% hp and that's without any debuffs. :3

Last time a guy recommended me to try on harder difficulty, I did and I broke my record of defeats for my HV lifetime.
What is focus for besides being hit harder? Any other buffs for that?

For FSM hard, I can hit 10000 dmg each with tier 1 spell, so I need 15-18 hits with constant silence, weaken, slower and imperil.
You are tough, soul. I lose 10% hp with one physical hit and 50%+ for crits and magical, even with debuffs.

For FSM Pfudor, slow is not enough, as you are just waiting for it to end ... eventually.
Is there any chance you will be defeated? Also is it really worth to go Pfudor FSM, as I am not holy mage and I am afraid of running out of potions.
Also how do you switch from elemental to training dark or holy, as the magic score goes down a lot.

Defeated? Unless I stop looking at the screen at all and let silence and spark fall I wont be defeated. Basic FSM damage is completely covered by Regen, my hp wont even drop to half. Special attacks are different case though, surviving Puff of Logic for me is impossible, but then, there is silence, if silence failed, you try to sleep FSM, if all failed, there are spark and spirit shield spells.
Is it really worth it? Very likely it is not, but its hard to tell. I am very interested in what are modifiers for Arena Clear Bonus drops, like how much affected by difficulty, LoTD, Challenge num, etc. Still doing that on Pfudor just hoping for something (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
Training, ugh. My normal, non FSM strategy, is to cycle through all 4 tier3 spells and throw whatever forbidden and divine after, while waiting cooldown on elemental. Its not very efficient, but gets me some proficiency in 2 other magics normally. Someday i will even reach paradise and ragnarok (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Also, I havent come clear if there is need for me to switch equip into divine for FSM. My divine set is not great quality, and with proficiency differences, t3 elemental spells in elemental do about same damage to FSM as t2-t1 divine spells, or rather, even higher when unresisted.

Last time a guy recommended me to try on harder difficulty, I did and I broke my record of defeats for my HV lifetime.
What is focus for besides being hit harder? Any other buffs for that?

For FSM hard, I can hit 10000 dmg each with tier 1 spell, so I need 15-18 hits with constant silence, weaken, slower and imperil.
You are tough, soul. I lose 10% hp with one physical hit and 50%+ for crits and magical, even with debuffs.

focus can restore your MP ( but you need to silence , weaken or sleep the mobs first if you are mages ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)