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Nov 5 2013, 16:42
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Cats Lover
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QUOTE(Ayperos @ Nov 5 2013, 14:38)  Time out! Time out!
I lost track of the conversation completely
what is
PFUDOR
DwD
and
pabs?
PFUDOR is the highest difficulty. (= Pink Fluffy Unicorns Dancing On Rainbows) DwD is A Dance with Dragons, the last arena. PAB is Primary Attributes Bonus that your gears give you. You can see these here (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Acronyms
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Nov 5 2013, 16:42
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Oversoul
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QUOTE(Ayperos @ Nov 5 2013, 15:38)  Time out! Time out!
I lost track of the conversation completely
what is
PFUDOR
DwD
and
pabs?
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/AcronymsLots of useful information on wiki :3
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Nov 5 2013, 16:52
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kuro009
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QUOTE(Ayperos @ Nov 5 2013, 16:38)  Time out! Time out!
I lost track of the conversation completely
what is
PFUDOR
DwD
and
pabs?
PFUDOR is currently the highest Difficulty mode available in HV. DwD is "Dance With the Dragons" Arena Which can be accessed when you reach level 300. PABs are Primary Attribute Bonus that you find on Equipments (i.e. Strength, Dexterity, Agility etc.).
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Nov 5 2013, 16:52
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Ayperos
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On PFUDOR, should have payed better attention to the settings (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)" I can only blame myself... It's probably because I only get near to battletoads or nintendo most of the time.
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Nov 5 2013, 17:00
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Colman
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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Nov 5 2013, 22:41)  by mistake.. true power of the experts! Oversoul: the trick is I was waiting for someone to say it and now im level 300 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) PFUDOR IW do not take longer than IWBTH IW for 1H, so it is not noticeable. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Nov 5 2013, 17:56
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Cats Lover
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Questions to Colman, nobody_xxx, and any others who can clear hellfest with melee. Could I know your network latency, ADB, PMI, play style, and the average elapse time? Now I can clear hellfest with 1H Heavy in 3~3.5 hours. (Well... It took 5 hours to clear for the first time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)) But I wanna shorten the time, because it's too long to play daily 3 hours for me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Here's my settings. (latency: 400~600ms) Set 1: ADB 6427, PMI 66.1, Block: 53.5, Parry: 39.3, Time: 3~3.5 hours Set 2: ADB 5443, PMI 73, Block: 53.5, Parry: 41, Time: 3.5~4 hours (slower but a bit more stable)
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Nov 5 2013, 18:02
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blue penguin
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QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 5 2013, 13:51)  FYI, I just one-shoted in Hell GF round 930 with 1H. The magic (void) attack is so strong that can one-shot everyone.
With a good shield, the chance of being one-shot is greatly reduced, but it still happen. With DW, it happen very often. Don't do heavy 1H, go for light 1H with shade and rapier. You do less damage but you do not have only PMI/MMI and block as high stats, you have block, parry, evade and resist to protect you from a one-hit. And if you invest in spirit theft you can go absolutelly forever on Nintendo (on your level, probably higher). QUOTE(cruelsion @ Nov 5 2013, 14:07)  I just got Magnificent Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall dropped from clearing PFUDOR DwD Don't sell it, it have 32 holy base, it's awesome. At some point you will want to grind holy prof and the staff will come handy. @Cats Lover I clear hellfest in 5 to 6 hours every time (with 1H light), will not help you much.
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Nov 5 2013, 18:04
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Colman
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Nov 5 2013, 23:56)  Questions to Colman, nobody_xxx, and any others who can clear hellfest with melee. Could I know your network latency, ADB, PMI, play style, and the average elapse time? Now I can clear hellfest with 1H Heavy in 3~3.5 hours. (Well... It took 5 hours to clear for the first time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)) But I wanna shorten the time, because it's too long to play daily 3 hours for me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Here's my settings. (latency: 400~600ms) Set 1: ADB 6427, PMI 66.1, Block: 53.5, Parry: 39.3, Time: 3~3.5 hours Set 2: ADB 5443, PMI 73, Block: 53.5, Parry: 41, Time: 3.5~4 hours (slower but a bit more stable) FYI, I cannot clear hell GF yet. The closest one is round 996. All of the death is from the one-shoted by the same monster. It take me 4 hours to reach round 950 in average. My ping is around 320~350ms. ABD 4394; PMI 75.2; MMI 66.8; evade 29.3; block 53.1%; parry 29.3; resist 49.6. Around 20 turns per round. No shaded. @blue penguin I use light 1H. This post has been edited by Colman: Nov 5 2013, 18:04
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Nov 5 2013, 18:18
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Cats Lover
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QUOTE(blue penguin @ Nov 5 2013, 16:02)  @Cats Lover I clear hellfest in 5 to 6 hours every time (with 1H light), will not help you much.
Thanks for your attention about my question (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 5 2013, 16:04)  FYI, I cannot clear hell GF yet. The closest one is round 996. All of the death is from the one-shoted by the same monster. It take me 4 hours to reach round 950 in average. My ping is around 320~350ms. ABD 4394; PMI 75.2; MMI 66.8; evade 29.3; block 53.1%; parry 29.3; resist 49.6. Around 20 turns per round. No shaded.
Oh, you're using leather full set and not using SoL nor SS, aren't you? 996 round is almost clear I think. Thanks for your information. I'll refer to it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hmmm... Is there anyone who uses 2H, DW or Niten to clear hellfest?
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Nov 5 2013, 18:42
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Colman
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Nov 6 2013, 00:18)  Thanks for your attention about my question (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Oh, you're using leather full set and not using SoL nor SS, aren't you? 996 round is almost clear I think. Thanks for your information. I'll refer to it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hmmm... Is there anyone who uses 2H, DW or Niten to clear hellfest? I do not use SoL/SS because my SP is low in late rounds. And I'm lazy to use spirit theft.
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Nov 5 2013, 18:42
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blue penguin
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 5 2013, 16:04)  ABD 4394; PMI 75.2; MMI 66.8; evade 29.3; block 53.1%; parry 29.3; resist 49.6. Wow, you get more ADB with leather than I do using shade: ADB 3925; PMI 61.9; MMI 57.4; evade 44.1; block 31.6; parry 47.9; resist 53.7; And around 24 turns per round (but I'm hopeful, am 30 levels below you) On the other hand it is as Cats Lover says, it is wise to have SS or SoL (I have SS in my AI) to prevent one-hits. And again spirit theft come in handy to recover after SS hits. (And before you ask, my shade was not too expensive. It is mostly Exq Fleet)
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Nov 5 2013, 18:42
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erwtsnert
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QUOTE(kuro009 @ Nov 5 2013, 15:32)  Interesting. Experiment time then! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Don't forget most people will either get an ethereal or IW their weapon to 10 for void strike/damage, void is the best type of damage you can. You can just turn that slashing into void in exchange for some hours or a few 100k.
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Nov 5 2013, 18:49
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Ayperos
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I have a few questions regarding overcharge (skill, spirit and focus)
Once overcharge hit max, in arena when exactly is a good time to turn on spirit? I noticed that you can actually save mana potions if you sacrifice overcharge by using focus on lower difficulties, until which setting this is actually a good thing to do?
and on battletoads and up what's is more pratical for my current level, to use overcharge solely on spirit or on skills?
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Nov 5 2013, 18:54
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kuro009
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Nov 5 2013, 18:42)  Don't forget most people will either get an ethereal or IW their weapon to 10 for void strike/damage, void is the best type of damage you can. You can just turn that slashing into void in exchange for some hours or a few 100k.
I Know. I was actually talking about the Proc. Not about the attack type. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Nov 5 2013, 19:47
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 7-December 10

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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Nov 5 2013, 22:56)  Questions to Colman, nobody_xxx, and any others who can clear hellfest with melee. Could I know your network latency, ADB, PMI, play style, and the average elapse time? Now I can clear hellfest with 1H Heavy in 3~3.5 hours. (Well... It took 5 hours to clear for the first time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)) But I wanna shorten the time, because it's too long to play daily 3 hours for me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Here's my settings. (latency: 400~600ms) Set 1: ADB 6427, PMI 66.1, Block: 53.5, Parry: 39.3, Time: 3~3.5 hours Set 2: ADB 5443, PMI 73, Block: 53.5, Parry: 41, Time: 3.5~4 hours (slower but a bit more stable) in my old record , when my ping is still 250-280ms (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) 2H 40 min usually , but sometimes reach 3H coz I need to replay post here (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) now my estoc have more higher damage , so I think I can go faster but my ping is suck so I don't grind anymore in HV (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) xtech can clear hellfest around 1H 40 min ( he have 1 of the best estoc in HV ) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) he don't using any sroll or shard and feather , but he have nearly 85% PMI with full plate set (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) he have 4T/s (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Nov 5 2013, 19:48
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Nov 5 2013, 21:05
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wastedman
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Hi, for my level, what is the recommended PMI and MMI for an elemental mage? thanks.
PS: attribute cannot help much, and all HG exq clothes and mag staff.
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Nov 5 2013, 22:40
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erwtsnert
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PMI/MMI isn't really important for mages, evade is what you want.
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