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Nov 5 2013, 14:32
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kuro009
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QUOTE(varst @ Nov 5 2013, 13:04)  1. Niten has the skill to inflict maximum amount of PA and bleeding, so you're still going to deal tons of damage. And you also get some benefits from waki.
2. I'd say 2H, to be honest. Better defense doesn't always translate to better survivability.
3. They have almost equal speed. Some said 1H can be even faster than DW, but overall that's still not comparable to 2H.
Interesting. Experiment time then! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Nov 5 2013, 14:36
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Colman
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It is necessary to have 200+ 1H proficiency to make 1H playable. For survivablity, 1h with good shield, DW with SS , or 2h mace should not be very different.
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Nov 5 2013, 14:52
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varst
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QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 5 2013, 20:23)  Have anyone tested the PF IW recently ? I would like to know does it give 7.8 PxP per round or higher.
AFAIK it's still 7.8. So people are doing IW runs on IWBTH.
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Nov 5 2013, 15:08
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kuro009
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QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 5 2013, 14:36)  It is necessary to have 200+ 1H proficiency to make 1H playable. For survivablity, 1h with good shield, DW with SS , or 2h mace should not be very different.
DW with SS for survivability? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) But I shifted to DW just 2 days ago, and with just around 20 DW proficiency, I can currently do Mag IW run in IWBTH (With around 12/13 mana potions being used per run). The weapons being Rapier in mainhand and waki in offhand. And I don't seem to need SS at all! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Nov 5 2013, 15:13
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Oversoul
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QUOTE(kuro009 @ Nov 5 2013, 14:08)  DW with SS for survivability? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) But I shifted to DW just 2 days ago, and with just around 20 DW proficiency, I can currently do Mag IW run in IWBTH (With around 12/13 mana potions being used per run). The weapons being Rapier in mainhand and waki in offhand. And I don't seem to need SS at all! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) You will need it for PF, there are pets around who will crit you for more than 120% of your max hp. I still remember when Raging Heart hit me for 13k when I had 8k hp on PF lol
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Nov 5 2013, 15:26
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kuro009
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Nov 5 2013, 15:13)  You will need it for PF, there are pets around who will crit you for more than 120% of your max hp. I still remember when Raging Heart hit me for 13k when I had 8k hp on PF lol
Okay. I'll keep that in mind. But I Don't want to do PF with DW right now, as I don't have a decent ethereal rapier (Can't find a good one from WTS (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) ). So for now, I'm concentrating on Prof Grinding in IWBTH.
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Nov 5 2013, 15:43
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kiaace
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Hi! I am new to HV. How should I progress from here? Thank you so much in advance. (Superior mace, 230 damage. 27% stun. I have full leather armor all superior) [ www.dropbox.com] https://www.dropbox.com/s/u915ozs7ttnupnf/Untitled.png
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Nov 5 2013, 15:51
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Colman
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QUOTE(kuro009 @ Nov 5 2013, 21:26)  Okay. I'll keep that in mind. But I Don't want to do PF with DW right now, as I don't have a decent ethereal rapier (Can't find a good one from WTS (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) ). So for now, I'm concentrating on Prof Grinding in IWBTH. FYI, I just one-shoted in Hell GF round 930 with 1H. The magic (void) attack is so strong that can one-shot everyone. With a good shield, the chance of being one-shot is greatly reduced, but it still happen. With DW, it happen very often.
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Nov 5 2013, 15:58
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kuro009
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QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 5 2013, 15:51)  FYI, I just one-shoted in Hell GF round 930 with 1H. The magic (void) attack is so strong that can one-shot everyone.
With a good shield, the chance of being one-shot is greatly reduced, but it still happen. With DW, it happen very often.
Not happening with me for the time being. I'm talking about Arena and IW. My DW gears and prof are still not ready to clear Hell GF.
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Nov 5 2013, 16:07
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Colman
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QUOTE(kuro009 @ Nov 5 2013, 21:58)  Not happening with me for the time being. I'm talking about Arena and IW. My DW gears and prof are still not ready to clear Hell GF.
It will happen when your level getting higher (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . You haven't experience that is because your level is not high enough to encounter the top magic mobs yet. You will soon having those kind of experience in IW/Arena like Oversoul . This post has been edited by Colman: Nov 5 2013, 16:07
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Nov 5 2013, 16:07
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cruelsion
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I just got Magnificent Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall dropped from clearing PFUDOR DwD where do i get price checks? is there any thread that helps people to check their equipment pricing? (lies)
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Nov 5 2013, 16:12
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cruelsion
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QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 6 2013, 01:09)  Wait for the next patch (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) . aww... it doesn't even worth anything? sigh......
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Nov 5 2013, 16:18
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kuro009
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QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 5 2013, 16:07)  It will happen when your level getting higher (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . You haven't experience that is because your level is not high enough to encounter the top magic mobs yet. You will soon having those kind of experience in IW/Arena like Oversoul . That's Obvious. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I had some pretty good Shade & Power gears a few months ago. But back then I was playing Elemental Mage. So I sold all of them to Bazzar! Now I'm regretting that! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) So I'm currently saving my credits for some good Shade gears. Doing TT&T with DW in IWBTH is my current goal. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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Nov 5 2013, 16:22
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Colman
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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Nov 5 2013, 22:12)  aww... it doesn't even worth anything?
sigh......
The staff is not that bad. Although its MDB and int are pretty low (I dunno the range of Oak staff (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) The problem is that people is whining about holy/dark and switching to elemental.
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Nov 5 2013, 16:28
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Oversoul
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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Nov 5 2013, 15:07)  I just got Magnificent Hallowed Oak Staff of Heimdall dropped from clearing PFUDOR DwD where do i get price checks? is there any thread that helps people to check their equipment pricing? (lies) DwD....you're not even 300 yet (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) That aside, the staff has MMax MD and Max EDB but poor pabs, still worth auctioning. :3
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Nov 5 2013, 16:38
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Ayperos
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(Disregard this my isp did a 503 error on me)
This post has been edited by Ayperos: Nov 5 2013, 16:39
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Nov 5 2013, 16:38
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Ayperos
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Time out! Time out!
I lost track of the conversation completely
what is
PFUDOR
DwD
and
pabs?
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Nov 5 2013, 16:39
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Cats Lover
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QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 5 2013, 12:23)  Have anyone tested the PF IW recently ? I would like to know does it give 7.8 PxP per round or higher.
Yes, I did IW on PFUDOR a week ago... (by mistake (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)) It gave me x7.8 pxp that same with IWBTH. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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