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What is the best weapon combination for DW?
Also mention which one in which hand.

I use rapier main hand for piecing damage (-25% mitigation) and wakizashi for offhand because high accuracy.

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And breaking those rules would earn a free trip to the moon.

I mean which one is better overall?

I'd rather pick estoc for heavy and mace for light. Balance between damage and protection.

What is the best weapon combination for DW?
Also mention which one in which hand.

I'd say rapier in the offhand because of the PA and parry. Balance if you can't land your offhand hits, slaughter if you can hit.
Then it's mainhand.
Dual-rapier gives you the best PA chance in exchange for damage output and protection. Use that only if you really can't land your PA hits.
Club-rapier gives you more protection, but crushing damage is hell against monsters so you better get an ethereal one.
Axe-rapier if you go for pure damage. Slashing damage isn't that bad, but ethereal one still helps.

And finally, leave the waki to niten. It's inferior unless paired up with katana.

This post has been edited by varst: Nov 5 2013, 05:48

Mmm......but even when using a waki of balance with 40% accuracy my off-hand strike on hit is only 75%

If I use other no matter the suffix wouldn't it be lower?

Edit:
and with rapier main hand, if PA takes effect then my off-hand can hit the target under PA effect? like extending PA effect by 0.5 turns

This post has been edited by LOL50015: Nov 5 2013, 06:11

Mmm......but even when using a waki of balance with 40% accuracy my off-hand strike on hit is only 75%

If I use other no matter the suffix wouldn't it be lower?

Edit:
and with rapier main hand, if PA takes effect then my off-hand can hit the target under PA effect? like extending PA effect by 0.5 turns

To get 100% offhand strike hit, you should have high DEX, AGI, DW proficiency and offhand weapon with high accuracy, and it means that your level should be much higher. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Fighting_Styles#Dual_Wielding
Offhand Strike Chance = 50 + (DEX + AGI) * 0.01 + DW / 20 + Offhand_Accuracy / 2
Proc chance is capped at 75% + half of the offhand weapon's attack accuracy.

If the two weapons have the same effect, the proc percentage numbers are combined just like accuracy. The number of turns are a weighted average with the main hand being 3 times as important as the off hand, while the bleeding damage uses the higher damage from the two weapons.
Let X = the mainhand and Y = the offhand:
Proc Chance = 1 - (1 - X)(1 - Y)
Proc Duration = X * 0.75 + Y * 0.25

This post has been edited by Cats Lover: Nov 5 2013, 06:23

Mmm......but even when using a waki of balance with 40% accuracy my off-hand strike on hit is only 75%

If I use other no matter the suffix wouldn't it be lower?

Edit:
and with rapier main hand, if PA takes effect then my off-hand can hit the target under PA effect? like extending PA effect by 0.5 turns

Please note that he's at least 100 levels higher than you, so he's getting at least 10% more offhand chance without the equip.
Also, the average accuracy difference between waki or balance and rapier of balance is somewhat 5%. The monsters he's facing have more mitigation, so the PA worths the loss of like 2.5% offhand chance.

PA effect stays for a number of turns. Both off-hand and main-hand hits will be affected.
As for duration, it's only affected if you're using dual rapiers.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Fighting_Styles#Dual_Wielding

hi guys,
does anyone know the fastest fighting style to finish schoolgirls arena?
Also what kind of armor and weapon(s) for that style?
Thanks.

Thanks to all who answered.

Three more things I'd like to know. Sorry if I'm being ignorant. You see, I'm trying to shift to Melee from Mage.

1. Slashing doesn't do that much damage in higher difficulty. so why is Niten so popular? What's the specialty?

2. Which style gives more survivability for longer number of rounds in higher difficulty? 1H or DW?

3. Which One is faster between 1H and DW?

This post has been edited by kuro009: Nov 5 2013, 11:07

Thanks to all who answered.

Three more things I'd like to know. Sorry if I'm being ignorant. You see, I'm trying to shift to Melee from Mage.

1. Slashing doesn't do that much damage in higher difficulty. so why is Niten so popular? What's the specialty?

2. Which style gives more survivability for longer number of rounds in higher difficulty? 1H or DW?

3. Which One is faster between 1H and DW?

1. Everyone craves ethereal weapons, void damage is the best. Niten is popular because you get to both hit one monster with two weapons and have a slight range like 2H, but it is one less than 2H, so you hit 5 isntead of 7 (max).

2. I've never played it but I believe 1H.

3. DW is faster than 1H.

1. Everyone craves ethereal weapons, void damage is the best. Niten is popular because you get to both hit one monster with two weapons and have a slight range like 2H, but it is one less than 2H, so you hit 5 isntead of 7 (max).

2. I've never played it but I believe 1H.

3. DW is faster than 1H.

How much proficiency in DW/2H is needed to hit 5 monsters at once while using Niten?

And if you've never played 1H before, then how can you say DW is faster? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

This post has been edited by kuro009: Nov 5 2013, 11:21

hi guys,
does anyone know the fastest fighting style to finish schoolgirls arena?
Also what kind of armor and weapon(s) for that style?
Thanks.

holy mages

I hope to become lv 300 soon

so i can call myself an expert and help newbies out (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

( and earn Karma, I'm going to get an animation sig for an attractive karma link with my riko-chan pictures (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I'll be glad if anyone would help me out on that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )

I hope to become lv 300 soon

so i can call myself an expert and help newbies out (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

( and earn Karma, I'm going to get an animation sig for an attractive karma link with my riko-chan pictures (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I'll be glad if anyone would help me out on that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )

Higher level =\= expert.
Players at different level range have different preference for gears and play style.

I hope to become lv 300 soon

so i can call myself an expert and help newbies out (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

( and earn Karma, I'm going to get an animation sig for an attractive karma link with my riko-chan pictures (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I'll be glad if anyone would help me out on that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )

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Thanks to all who answered.

Three more things I'd like to know. Sorry if I'm being ignorant. You see, I'm trying to shift to Melee from Mage.

1. Slashing doesn't do that much damage in higher difficulty. so why is Niten so popular? What's the specialty?

2. Which style gives more survivability for longer number of rounds in higher difficulty? 1H or DW?

3. Which One is faster between 1H and DW?

1. Niten has the skill to inflict maximum amount of PA and bleeding, so you're still going to deal tons of damage. And you also get some benefits from waki.

2. I'd say 2H, to be honest. Better defense doesn't always translate to better survivability.

3. They have almost equal speed. Some said 1H can be even faster than DW, but overall that's still not comparable to 2H.

holy mages

I hope you say something other than training my prof, but it seems I am in for a fight for holy staff and gears. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I hope you say something other than training my prof, but it seems I am in for a fight for holy staff and gears. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

well , for the end of days and eternal darkness , DW is the best and fastest ( but you need forging alot of your weapon ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I have around 8k base damage for my former DW set ( now I only have estoc ) and I don't use power slaughter


for DwD , 2H is faster than DW if you have leg estoc of slaughter with alot of forging mats + need good set of either shade or power (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


leg estoc of slaughter + full set power slaughter is great for arena , but not that good in GF or IW ( PFUDOR ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


holy mages still the fastest for SG (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

well , for the end of days and eternal darkness , DW is the best and fastest ( but you need forging alot of your weapon ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I have around 8k base damage for my former DW set ( now I only have estoc ) and I don't use power slaughter
for DwD , 2H is faster than DW if you have leg estoc of slaughter with alot of forging mats + need good set of either shade or power (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
leg estoc of slaughter + full set power slaughter is great for arena , but not that good in GF or IW ( PFUDOR ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
holy mages still the fastest for SG (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Thanks for reconfirming that I can get the cheapest, fastest and easiest way by staying as a mage and go the holy path. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Have anyone tested the PF IW recently ? I would like to know does it give 7.8 PxP per round or higher.