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post Nov 3 2013, 03:24
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Is this Staff better then my actual one ?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d5b3cfb8e4

I mean, the Magic Damage diffrence is huge , but I dont know if its worth sacrificing the elemental ( fire ) spell dmg for it.
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post Nov 3 2013, 03:25
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How's DW vs Niten clear speed-wise on DwD Phudor and Hellfest?


Niten>DW both cases because of multi-target. In my experience atleast.
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post Nov 3 2013, 03:39
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Nov 3 2013, 02:25) *

Niten>DW both cases because of multi-target. In my experience atleast.



Thanks for confirming my doubts, Niten proc makes up for the lack of Peneration, but my only concern is the 3x dmg modifier Niten vs 5x dmg modifier DW. Also, finding a good Ethereal Katana will be a pain in the ass.
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post Nov 3 2013, 03:50
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QUOTE(Pok100 @ Nov 3 2013, 03:24) *

Willow

Is this Staff better then my currently-used one?
Redwood

I mean, the Magic Damage diffrence is huge , but I dont know if its worth sacrificing the elemental ( fire ) spell dmg for it.

Willow is for dark mage, usually.
I notice you already got superb gears at your low level. I bet you also got full phase of surtr for armor. If you want to stick with fire, keep the redwood. The damage difference is negligible.
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post Nov 3 2013, 03:56
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QUOTE(Pok100 @ Nov 3 2013, 09:24) *

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3ca74a9418

Is this Staff better then my actual one ?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d5b3cfb8e4

I mean, the Magic Damage diffrence is huge , but I dont know if its worth sacrificing the elemental ( fire ) spell dmg for it.


the willow staff is better if you're a dark/wind mage if you're a fire mage obviously the redwood is better
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post Nov 3 2013, 03:58
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QUOTE(lolera223 @ Nov 2 2013, 19:28) *
Am i doing it right? i want to deal lots of magic DMG and be able to survive at least 50 rounds in grindfest without pots, i can get to 32-35 without pots right now...

Since you're under 100, you're doing it right. Strength & Dexterity stat are a bit bigger, but it's fine.
Later, you'd want to move to phase armors if you still want 'dealing as much magic damage' as your goal. I don't do mage from ground up, so I don't know investing in cottons will be rewarding -- I went straight to phases.
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post Nov 3 2013, 04:01
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Say, a forged equipment with 30 level of physical damage forge has base stat of 80 weapon damage. What is its unforged weapon damage stat?

So, no one can answer this?
It would be easy if each subsequent forging add strictly 1% of respective stat, but I found it is not. It's got complicated when the forging is already at more than 30 levels.
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post Nov 3 2013, 04:05
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Oh, me again

1) If my sword got does dark strike dmg, then is the dmg dealt affected by INT?

(IMG:[i1071.photobucket.com] http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u503/lol5001/stats_zps4d4c932f.png)

2) Being a DW, do you think it is a good idea to only focus on STR, EDU and DEX only?

3) Do you think it is worth the time to up exquisite weapon's level?

4) Generally is my stats okay?

5) I understand from the wiki that atk speed caps at 10%, is this true?

Thank you
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post Nov 3 2013, 04:19
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Nov 3 2013, 09:39) *

Thanks for confirming my doubts, Niten proc makes up for the lack of Peneration, but my only concern is the 3x dmg modifier Niten vs 5x dmg modifier DW. Also, finding a good Ethereal Katana will be a pain in the ass.

DW is better than niten in marathons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
erwst DW is not that good since he mostly niten (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Niten more faster in GF since it can hit 5 mobs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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Nope , willow have better MDB than redwood (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

That why you see alot of WTB leg xxx willow of destruction (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 3 2013, 04:21
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Nov 3 2013, 09:05) *

Oh, me again

1) If my sword got does dark strike dmg, then is the dmg dealt affected by INT?

(IMG:[i1071.photobucket.com] http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u503/lol5001/stats_zps4d4c932f.png)

2) Being a DW, do you think it is a good idea to only focus on STR, EDU and DEX only?

3) Do you think it is worth the time to up exquisite weapon's level?

4) Generally is my stats okay?

5) I understand from the wiki that atk speed caps at 10%, is this true?

Thank you


2. DW need AGI too.
3. depend on what equipment u got, in my exp. at your level you don't need to upgrade cause it's not worth.
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post Nov 3 2013, 04:24
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Nov 3 2013, 04:50) *

Willow is for dark mage, usually.
I notice you already got superb gears at your low level. I bet you also got full phase of surtr for armor. If you want to stick with fire, keep the redwood. The damage difference is negligible.


Alright, thx a lot

Complete Armor Superior Phase Surtr besides Head ...

Any tips on how to level my stuff at Item World faster ?
Using hotkeys atm, but I would really like to just one click kill all monsters xD !
After round 50 or so I need like 2 clicks per round ...
Is there any faster ways ?
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post Nov 3 2013, 04:26
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@LOL50015

1) no, it use half of your physical damage. (offhand elemental strike become 1/4)
2) only INT is useless.
3) yes, but only for ethereal weapon.
4) yes
5) Attack speed from your stat is capped at a certain value (I do not know the value (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ). Your gears can further increase attack speed beyond this value.

edit: correct some mistakes.

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post Nov 3 2013, 04:34
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 3 2013, 05:19) *

DW is better than niten in marathons (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
erwst DW is not that good since he mostly niten (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)



Really depends on spawn patterns, if you can hit multiple schoolgirls I'd say Niten is faster. Niten is like DW with splash but without infinite PA. If you have haste and swift strike the PA stays on the monsters for about 8-9 rounds with Niten when you Skyward Sword, good enough to reduce them to 50-30% HP, then you can just proceed killing the other schoolgirls and let the splash+bleed do the work. It also takes the other normal mobs down with them too thanks to domino strike.

I'd actually say there's not too much difference between DW/Niten clear times. With Niten you have to hit the schoolgirls longer, with DW you have to worry about killing those pesky trash mobs, which takes a couple of turns each.

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post Nov 3 2013, 07:53
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I have some question , if you buy/get forged weapon than salvaged it .
will my forged exp /lvl affected since it is not my forged weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Nov 3 2013, 07:58
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 3 2013, 13:53) *

I have some question , if you buy/get forged weapon than salvaged it .
will my forged exp /lvl affected since it is not my forged weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

It will. It reduce the forge exp by an amount that could be increased by the returned material.

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post Nov 3 2013, 15:30
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 3 2013, 05:53) *

I have some question , if you buy/get forged weapon than salvaged it .
will my forged exp /lvl affected since it is not my forged weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Yes, you can't salvage forged weapon if you don't have enough forge exp to be lowered by salvaging.
My friend got a well-forged but crappy gear, so he raised his forge level by cheap materials and salvage the gear. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Nov 3 2013, 15:30
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Is training Scavenger Any Good? I mean, Wiki says maxing out Scavenger can bring Loot Drop Rate from 10% to 12.5%. Have you experienced significant drop rate change with more of it's training?
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post Nov 3 2013, 15:37
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Yes, you can't salvage forged weapon if you don't have enough forge exp to be lowered by salvaging.
My friend got a well-forged but crappy gear, so he raised his forge level by cheap materials and salvage the gear. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


that not my point in my question , cat (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I have lvl 20 forge exp (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


reduce to 18 after salvaged my axe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Nov 3 2013, 15:56
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Is training Scavenger Any Good? I mean, Wiki says maxing out Scavenger can bring Loot Drop Rate from 10% to 12.5%. Have you experienced significant drop rate change with more of it's training?


Let's consider the arenas available to you right now. Assuming I didn't screw up somewhere, there are 4300 regular enemies in the arenas through Trio and the Tree, not including the bosses or regular enemies in the final round of each arena (when the drop rate is significantly higher than normal).

So, at a 10% drop rate, you'd receive an average of 430 items per day if you complete every arena on a daily basis. At a 12.5% drop rate, you'd receive an average of 537.5 items per day, which would be an increase of 107.5 items per day.

(To simplify matters, I'm not accounting for the effect that monster PL has on drop rate - I'm just discussing the base rate... But I believe the effects of monster PL and scavenger multiply, which would only serve to strengthen the difference.)

Obviously, nobody goes straight from zero to 50 in scavenger, so the effect of any single increase in its level may not be noticeable through normal play... But in the end, it adds up.
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post Nov 3 2013, 16:09
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scavenger mostly benefit GF run for crystal drop and artifacts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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