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post Oct 26 2013, 17:29
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you can get around 40k credits for 1 run clearing hellfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


that amount is higher that PFUDOR DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 26 2013, 17:39
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 26 2013, 23:16) *

same here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
@colman

you should start forge your leather than use it with estoc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I'm not rich enough to heavily forge my gears. Btw, 3 out of 5 pieces in my leather set is not worth forging (though I can savlage it to get the material back ).

Im IWing my new shield now, I will not GF for awhile.
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post Oct 26 2013, 17:43
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 26 2013, 15:29) *

you can get around 40k credits for 1 run clearing hellfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
that amount is higher that PFUDOR DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You mean that 40k credits are just credits, not counting crystals' value, right?

Well, I can easily clear PFUDOR DwD in 100~110 minutes with my 1H now,
but hellfest still takes about 4~5 hours (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

I'm trying it with a cute crappy staff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) as a beginner holy mage from now on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 26 2013, 17:43
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Have fun with your new shield. But really, IW it? You are hardcore. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

If I get a new rapier out of chazer's auction, I will be busy IW it for a while too. Hope I won't have to reset too much to get 5 levels of Fatality.

Actually, can I get some input regarding Fatality and Butcher? Which one is better when maxed, mathematically?


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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 26 2013, 22:43) *

I'm trying it with a cute crappy staff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) as a beginner holy mage from now on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Define "crappy". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Oct 26 2013, 17:44
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 27 2013, 02:39) *

I'm not rich enough to heavily forge my gears. Btw, 3 out of 5 pieces in my leather set is not worth forging (though I can savlage it to get the material back ).

Im IWing my new shield now, I will not GF for awhile.


No offense but why would you have bought that shield at such a grand price?

I really don't see how much it is better than my shield which I bought at 100k if i remember correctly.

P.S. On my user cp page 2013-10-23 04:52 +13
Sold 1 "Monster Chow" (12C Bot Profit Share!)

I shouldve sold 10k MC and earn 120k credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Oct 26 2013, 17:47
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 27 2013, 02:43) *

You mean that 40k credits are just credits, not counting crystals' value, right?

Well, I can easily clear PFUDOR DwD in 100~110 minutes with my 1H now,
but hellfest still takes about 4~5 hours (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

I'm trying it with a cute crappy staff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) as a beginner holy mage from now on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


Hey, I'm starting for holy too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) with (insert your link here or you will get a bad luck) I just bought for 100k from auction

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post Oct 26 2013, 17:50
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I'm nearly stop playing DwD now , drop quality is suck (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


40k is better spend to buy some ED (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)




I'm already abandon my holy path since I has auction my leg fiery oak staff of heimdall (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


just remember one thing , good heimdall phase ( mag+ ) is very expensive gear (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Oct 26 2013, 17:53
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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Oct 26 2013, 23:44) *

No offense but why would you have bought that shield at such a grand price?

I really don't see how much it is better than my shield which I bought at 100k if i remember correctly.

P.S. On my user cp page 2013-10-23 04:52 +13
Sold 1 "Monster Chow" (12C Bot Profit Share!)

I shouldve sold 10k MC and earn 120k credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Max block in mag class worth 500k+ IMO. Just like maxed accuracy in rapier.
I think ace amuro want to have it at around 700-750k So my final bid was 700k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Oct 26 2013, 17:55
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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Oct 27 2013, 00:10) *

I dont think I can wait 2 weeks...

nvm I'll just enjoy HV as a free game.

gallery points are pretty much free to all users anyway

edit: I just bought this junk exq from bazaar a sec ago. (I've already spent 400k credits i earned last 2 days (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) ) sell it or replace against a mag with lowest blocking chance for force shield ever?

If you donate from [Donations], you don't need to wait that long.
Keep in mind that bitcoin value is very volatile these few days, so you will want to buy just enough bitcoin (donation+10%; that 10% will be returned to your wallet after transaction has been confirmed) and donate it that instant.
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post Oct 26 2013, 18:12
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Oct 26 2013, 15:43) *

Have fun with your new shield. But really, IW it? You are hardcore. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

If I get a new rapier out of chazer's auction, I will be busy IW it for a while too. Hope I won't have to reset too much to get 5 levels of Fatality.

Actually, can I get some input regarding Fatality and Butcher? Which one is better when maxed, mathematically?
Edit:

Define "crappy". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Err... crappy is somewhat tiny, little, delicate and very cute (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

If you're 1H Heavy user, 5 Fatality & 4 Butcher is the best combination I think.
If you're equipped with Light, 5 Swift Strike & 4 Fatality or 4 SS & 5 Fatality is fair enough.


QUOTE(cruelsion @ Oct 26 2013, 15:47) *

Hey, I'm starting for holy too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) with (insert your link here or you will get a bad luck) I just bought for 100k from auction

I used this one bought for 2k and now this one for 8k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I don't need better one for right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
In fact, I don't have money for class changing from melee to mage right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Oct 26 2013, 18:16
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I found what I told about 20 days ago:

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Butcher vs Fatality vs Swift Strike vs Overpower

I think that:

- Fatailty+Butcher is the best combination for Heavy who has high burden. (and Fatality > Butcher)
- Swift Strike+Fatality is the best one for Light.

Overpower is also good, but it depends on monsters...
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2842014
And if you're using 1H, Overpower is useless for 1H's stun & Overwhelming Strikes.

What's your opinion about this?
In my case (1H Heavy) with Heartseeker:

- No potency -
AD: 6158
WD: 897
crit%: 28.1% / crit dmg +50% -> crit%: 35.29% / crit dmg +64%
Average dmg = ((6158 * 0.6471) + (6158 * 0.3529 * 1.64)) * 1.25 = 9436.03

- Butcher Lv5 -
AD: 6247
WD: 986
crit%: 28.1% / crit dmg +50% -> crit%: 35.29% / crit dmg +64%
Average dmg = ((6247 * 0.6471) + (6247 * 0.3529 * 1.64)) * 1.25 = 9572.4
+136.37 (1.4452%)

- Fatality Lv5 -
AD: 6158
WD: 897
crit%: 28.1% / crit dmg +60% -> crit%: 35.29% / crit dmg +74%
Average dmg = ((6158 * 0.6471) + (6158 * 0.3529 * 1.74)) * 1.25 = 9707.67
+271.64 (2.8788%)


+Added:
The point is that the critical chance and the ratio of WD and AD. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
The higher your critical chance is, the better efficiency Fatality has.
The less portion your WD in AD, the better efficiency Fatality has.

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post Oct 26 2013, 18:19
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 26 2013, 23:12) *

Err... crappy is somewhat tiny, little, delicate and very cute (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 26 2013, 23:12) *

If you're 1H Heavy user, 5 Fatality & 4 Butcher is the best combination I think.

Indeed, with 1H it's damage potencies all the way. The problem is getting those potencies though... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


Edit: You summed that up nicely, thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Oct 26 2013, 18:38
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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Oct 26 2013, 16:54) *


P.S. why can't it be like just normal credit card payment which takes seconds to process (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


In short: PayPal and other similar companies don't like (read: allow) when donation button is used on porn websites. We can debate how porn is porn enough, but fact is that all previous forms of donating failed at some stage just because EHG contain porn, after all EHG is not exactly Wikipedia or Seti@Home (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Probably BTC (or some other Altcoins) is now only reliable option for foreseeable future.
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post Oct 26 2013, 19:10
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Oct 26 2013, 23:43) *

Have fun with your new shield. But really, IW it? You are hardcore. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

If I get a new rapier out of chazer's auction, I will be busy IW it for a while too. Hope I won't have to reset too much to get 5 levels of Fatality.

Actually, can I get some input regarding Fatality and Butcher? Which one is better when maxed, mathematically?
Edit:

Define "crappy". (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

HV players are all hardcore. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
My experience of 1h leather in the past week make me understand that having some elemental resistance can reduce the damage from magic to the level that lower than physical attack, thank for the newly resist mechanism.
I'm planning to forge the shield soon. Just haven't decided how many levels should I forge it.
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post Oct 26 2013, 19:33
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10 levels of block is a good start I think. The material cost should not exceed 300kC at the moment.

QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 27 2013, 00:10) *

My experience of 1h leather in the past week make me understand that having some elemental resistance can reduce the damage from magic to the level that lower than physical attack, thank for the newly resist mechanism.

Still, the spells that hurt the most are usually Void type so I doubt having specific mit. on other elements would be worth it.

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post Oct 26 2013, 19:46
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Oct 27 2013, 01:33) *

10 levels of block is a good start I think. The material cost should not exceed 300kC at the moment.
Still, the spells that hurt the most are usually Void type so I doubt having specific mit. on other elements would be worth it.

The elemental resistance is free anyway.
Just check the price of the specific binding for force shield.
It is much lower than expected (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). May be I will only buy the binding and wait for wood from my monsters.
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post Oct 26 2013, 19:53
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I can't believe I've been unaware of this option in HVSTAT 5.6.5.1 for so damn long.

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Seriously, this feature totally rocks.
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post Oct 26 2013, 20:00
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Oct 27 2013, 01:53) *

I can't believe I've been unaware of this option in HVSTAT 5.6.5.1 for so damn long.

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Seriously, this feature totally rocks.

Any real use? I do not really care how much hp does a monster have.
Btw, what if a boss is appear? would the hp bar of other monster disappear?

Edit: typo

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post Oct 26 2013, 20:28
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It has use whenever multiple monsters of the same annoying type (and presumably having more or less the same offensive capability) show up; at those times it will let me know which to kill first (the ones have less HP of course). It works really well coupled with the Monster Sensor script. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I don't think bosses have that much HP really; they are probably 5x Koudo Yuki at most so it should still work fine. And I almost never do marathon anyway so the only time I have to turn it off is when I fight in RoB I think.


Moar edit: Do you think this axe worth IW-ing?

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post Oct 26 2013, 21:39
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 26 2013, 20:00) *

Any real use? I do not really care how much hp does a monster have.
Btw, what if a boss is appear? would the hp bar of other monster disappear?



Yup, that option is absolutely useless for marathons.
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