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post Oct 23 2013, 23:08
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Oct 24 2013, 03:45) *

I think mages don't visit that thread... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (At least, no one have answered my mage questions... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) )

Well, first of all install the Magic Scores script... it's great to compare mage equips...

Increase your Agility, it's a very important attribute for mages, i think it's so important as END... also increase you DEX a bit, it's not "very" important, but it's good 'cause adds points to parry (avoid physical damage)... keep WIS and INT even...

The only stat you really don't have to bother is Strength... even so, thrown some points into it cause it will increase your Spirit... and at that point, is very cheap compared to others... My advice is to keep your stats at: 0.5:0.8:1:1:1:1

For equips... Ethereal is not a good prefix for staff... try to get an elemental prefixed staff that match your main Element... preferable that match both prefix and suffix (i.e. Shocking -> Mjolnir)... or with Destruction suffix.. (i.e. Shocking -> of Destruction)

If you can, use all "Phase" armor with your main elemental suffix... if not, use Magic Scores script to see which equip give best output damage to your main Elemental attack...

However... I'm (still) not a mage... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ...so, if one appear here, probably he could give you better advices... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Thanks for your comment
After I download the script, how do I install and activate it?
For parry and agility, i will increase a bit, but not much as I may not want to try my luck to parry crits.
Also parrying may not be a good choice for mages, as I reply on evade spells more.
WIS is good for arena as it increase magical defence and add magic points, while INT cannot.
For now, I cannot see the meaning of spirit bar, as it is always full for me.
For equips, I wish I have a choice, as the price for exq phase is 10 times more expense. But why phase? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Oct 23 2013, 23:12
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QUOTE(wastedman @ Oct 23 2013, 14:08) *

Thanks for your comment
After I download the script, how do I install and activate it?
For parry and agility, i will increase a bit, but not much as I may not want to try my luck to parry crits.
Also parrying may not be a good choice for mages, as I reply on evade spells more.
WIS is good for arena as it increase magical defence and add magic points, while INT cannot.
For now, I cannot see the meaning of spirit bar, as it is always full for me.
For equips, I wish I have a choice, as the price for exq phase is 10 times more expense. But why phase? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

dex needed for accuracy for when you have to bash things (and Ether theft)

phase edb > proficiency for adding to magic damage.
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/advice#Mage_Builds

use spirit shield and SoL for dealing with crits.

use imperil for higher difficulties / harder mobs.
check shop in my sig, got some mjolnirs and tempest phase I'm trying to offload for dirt cheap. at the least dont be wearing protect/warding cotton.

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post Oct 23 2013, 23:31
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QUOTE(wastedman @ Oct 23 2013, 19:08) *
After I download the script, how do I install and activate it?

If you use FireFox you need to install [addons.mozilla.org] Greasemonkey or [addons.mozilla.org] Scriptish extension first... (I use Scriptish)...

Then drag'n drop the script into any active page... click install...


If you use Chrome... just go to Tools > Extensions... Then drag'n drop the script into that page...

After installed, to use the script press "S" when hover over an equipment or in equipment popup page...


QUOTE(wastedman @ Oct 23 2013, 19:08) *
For parry and agility, i will increase a bit, but not much as I may not want to try my luck to parry crits.
Also parrying may not be a good choice for mages, as I reply on evade spells more.
WIS is good for arena as it increase magical defence and add magic points, while INT cannot.
For now, I cannot see the meaning of spirit bar, as it is always full for me.
For equips, I wish I have a choice, as the price for exq phase is 10 times more expense. But why phase? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


AGI is really a very important stat... in overall: Evade > PMI

For mages the main point is kill mobs before they attack you... thats why INT is so important as WIS... and why phase is the primary (if not unique) choice...

Spirit is important for increase you survival... while you using Spirit Shield... and Spark of Life...

...also, go further in only one stat is not cost-effective... so, keep them near each other...
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post Oct 23 2013, 23:39
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Oct 24 2013, 05:31) *

If you use FireFox you need to install [addons.mozilla.org] Greasemonkey or [addons.mozilla.org] Scriptish extension first... (I use Scriptish)...

Then drag'n drop the script into any active page... click install...
If you use Chrome... just go to Tools > Extensions... Then drag'n drop the script into that page...

After installed, to use the script press "S" when hover over an equipment or in equipment popup page...
AGI is really a very important stat... in overall: Evade > PMI

For mages the main point is kill mobs before they attack you... thats why INT is so important as WIS... and why phase is the primary (if not unique) choice...

Spirit is important for increase you survival... while you using Spirit Shield... and Spark of Life...

...also, go further in only one stat is not cost-effective... so, keep them near each other...


Do you mean drag the js file or the other formats, and active page means the stats page?
Alright, so I have to set INT=WIS, then 0.8 AGI. So phase for the INT bonus, and what is spirit shield for, as I don't have it. Sol depletes half of the spirit bar, no matter how many points you have.
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post Oct 23 2013, 23:54
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Yes, the js file... drag'n drop it in any opened page on firefox (not necessary eh or hv)...

Spirit Shield is a Supportive Spell... I think you have it unlocked now (at least wiki says it's unlocked at Lv.200)... it converts Powerfull attacks (aka criticals) into Spirit damage... very useful to stay alive...

SoL uses 50% of you base Spirit when triggered... for me SoL can triggers 3-4 times with full spirit bar...
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post Oct 24 2013, 00:18
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Worth clearing first Arena page on Phudor in hope of getting Ex+ from Arena clear bonus?
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post Oct 24 2013, 01:10
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 24 2013, 00:18) *

Worth clearing first Arena page on Phudor in hope of getting Ex+ from Arena clear bonus?


Chances are way too low even with maxed LoTD, invest your time into doing PFUDOR 2nd page if you don't already. However, if you have the time to do everything on PFUDOR, just do it, even though you might not get ex+ gear the increased EXP and credit/crystal amounts will help you out anyways.
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post Oct 24 2013, 01:16
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Oct 24 2013, 01:10) *

Chances are way too low even with maxed LoTD, invest your time into doing PFUDOR 2nd page if you don't already. However, if you have the time to do everything on PFUDOR, just do it, even though you might not get ex+ gear the increased EXP and credit/crystal amounts will help you out anyways.



I see, thanks.

Sigh, I hope I have a reliable source of income soon. My credits from Arena can't keep up with my training.
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post Oct 24 2013, 01:55
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 24 2013, 10:16) *

I see, thanks.

Sigh, I hope I have a reliable source of income soon. My credits from Arena can't keep up with my training.


You can always sell your soul to Tenboro (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 24 2013, 03:23
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Oct 24 2013, 02:04) *

That mag force in G's auction looks really nice, but Colman, how I would hate having to go against you for it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I see in equipment range wiki, peerless force shield's ranges are listed, and in all variants too. Have so many dropped? If anyone know of one, can you give me the equipment link?

As I already have a useful force shield from clarkiest. I will not overbid that shield (I wont tell you my upper limit for that shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) , but I do not expected I can obtain it). My current bottleneck of clearing GF is more on offensive side. So, if a good weapon showing up .....

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post Oct 24 2013, 04:08
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 24 2013, 11:23) *

As I already have a useful force shield from clarkiest. I will not overbid that shield (I won tell you my upper limit for that shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) , but I do not expected I can obtain it). My current bottleneck of clearing GF is more on offensive side. So, if a good weapon showing up .....

I got this

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=977bd03781 4pab prepatch
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=82663b8ce7
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=dc47d696ed

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post Oct 24 2013, 06:19
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I've been thinking about credits (and seeing how PFUDOR still hasn't been updated) I've been doing some light testing. It -SEEMS- like the credit drop for PFUDOR is ~x3.25, but of course I can't be sure. So I have a question about credits, it says drops are ~mostly~ affected by battle mode and difficulty, what else effects it?

I have seen that the same monster gives different credit amounts, so my hope that higher monsters give more credits seems wrong. To figure out that 3.25 I just played PFUDOR and IWBTH (I know, I should have done more difficulties but I didn't want to) and after a bit of play I found the highest amount and lowest amount that I got while playing the two and compared them and the difference seems like that.
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post Oct 24 2013, 06:25
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Meh
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post Oct 24 2013, 06:33
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I need ToB too at the moment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Oct 24 2013, 06:40
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Going to attempt TT&T soon, difficulty recommendation?
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post Oct 24 2013, 06:42
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normal , don't bothering with IWBTH+ unless your LoTD 23+
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post Oct 24 2013, 06:43
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I need to know for shop reasons.
Does Gossamer still drop?
[Yes] or [no]

I still see tons of it all over the place but i have not been seeing it drop at all.
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post Oct 24 2013, 06:45
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 23 2013, 21:42) *

normal , don't bothering with IWBTH+ unless your LoTD 23+


No way. You of all people know that LotD becomes less and less effective the higher it is. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

QUOTE(wolfgirl of autumn92 @ Oct 23 2013, 21:43) *

I need to know for shop reasons.
Does Gossamer still drop?
[Yes] or [no]

I still see tons of it all over the place but i have not been seeing it drop at all.


It does not drop any more. People are just getting rid of old gossamer.
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post Oct 24 2013, 06:47
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QUOTE(n125 @ Oct 24 2013, 12:45) *

No way. You of all people know that LotD becomes less and less effective the higher it is. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
It does not drop any more. People are just getting rid of old gossamer.

well , I never get something good from RoB until my LoTD 24 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I still have leg gossamer of earth walker (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

some already been sold / auction and become esheep collection (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 24 2013, 06:51
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 24 2013, 06:42) *

normal , don't bothering with IWBTH+ unless your LoTD 23+



Thanks, I hope I am correct in assuming that in terms of profit, FSM is better than TT&T
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