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Oct 23 2013, 16:49
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Cats Lover
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 23 2013, 13:58)  It should be 5 hours worth, if I want to clear hell gf (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). BTW, elemental damage is less than bleeding damage..... It seems sp is more important than mp for 1h Yes, that is the reason why I'm using Spirit Theft (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Oct 23 2013, 16:57
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cruelsion
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 24 2013, 01:49)  Yes, that is the reason why I'm using Spirit Theft (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Is spirit theft worth using? wiki doesnt really tell us how much sp we get per draining turn and I expected the sp gain to be extremely small... need advice since I dont have ability points and you have already unlocked sp theft ability (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thank you in advance (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) edit: 4 7 Toboe has been defeated. 4 6 Void Strike crits Toboe for 1308 void damage. 4 5 Cold Strike crits Toboe for 482 cold damage. 4 4 Fire Strike crits Toboe for 1135 fire damage. damn crits (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) one shots enemy :3 This post has been edited by cruelsion: Oct 23 2013, 16:58
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Oct 23 2013, 16:59
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Amaduyu Mitsumi
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 23 2013, 21:49)  Yes, that is the reason why I'm using Spirit Theft (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'm interested now, how can you use Spirit Theft if you are playing as 1H? Do you slot abilities and cast Dark spells in battle just so that you could proc Burning Soul for Drain?
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Oct 23 2013, 17:10
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Colman
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FYI, I do not use ss and SoL. Spirit is only for the forever spirit stance. Spirit theft is good, but I do not want to stop as 1h for hundreds of rounds is already so slow. Edit: typo 590/1000 now
This post has been edited by Colman: Oct 23 2013, 17:13
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Oct 23 2013, 17:13
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erwtsnert
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Oct 23 2013, 16:59)  I'm interested now, how can you use Spirit Theft if you are playing as 1H? Do you slot abilities and cast Dark spells in battle just so that you could proc Burning Soul for Drain?
Some people do that, and it's a pretty good strategy if you have the patience for it. Exactly as you described it actually, slot dark abilities and spirit theft, cast dark spells and drain a monster with ripened soul.
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Oct 23 2013, 17:15
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Cats Lover
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I found what I told (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) QUOTE(ezlifee @ Sep 29 2013, 14:47)  Yes, my forbidden proficiency is over 200, so I can cast Ragnarok. I had a hard time to get the proficiency (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The probability to get Sprit Theft is 40% with Ripened Soul 2 lvl. In other words, I'm converting 164 MP (119 for Ragnarok, 45 for Drain) MP into 200+ SP. QUOTE(ezlifee @ Sep 29 2013, 18:21)  The amount of SP drained depends on the remaining SP of the target monster, maxed out for 5% of Base Spirit. If the target monster's SP is over 60~70%, it drains 5% SP of Base Spirit per turn in most situation (by my experience) My Base Spirit is over 600 and the amount of SP drain per turn is 30~31 per turn. Spirit Theft lasts 7 turns, so 200+ SP is recovered in my case. Of course, the target should not be killed until Spirit Theft expires (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Oct 23 2013, 17:28
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Amaduyu Mitsumi
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 23 2013, 22:10)  FYI, I do not use ss and SoL. Spirit is only for the forever spirit stance. Spirit theft is good, but I do not want to stop as 1h for hundreds of rounds is already so slow. Edit: typo 590/1000 now
Must be because you are wearing light armor with high resist chance that you don't have to use SS and SoL. My heavy set (and my SP bar, if not my HP bar) get pierced right through when Celestia Lindwurm, Akroma, Memphis Linesword, Kazane Hiyori, Aoi Phoenix, Cicco, Bottle Fairy, Yui Die Fee, Sugar Winter, Heartiels and recently Tsukiko Tsutsukakushi (goddamnit her name is hard to read even for someone studying Moonrunes like me) decide to team up and gank my butt. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 23 2013, 22:15)  I found what I told (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks, I will have to try that later. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 23 2013, 17:33
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Oversoul
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The only mobs I remember are those of that HTTP guy. Everything hits me less than 5k, then suddenly his pet shows up and randomly crits me for 13k. So from that point, every time I see his pets, it's instant focus.
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Oct 23 2013, 17:37
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Amaduyu Mitsumi
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Fibre and I fear/I do not fear armies should qualify instant focus as well.
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Oct 23 2013, 17:40
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Colman
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 23 2013, 23:33)  The only mobs I remember are those of that HTTP guy. Everything hits me less than 5k, then suddenly his pet shows up and randomly crits me for 13k. So from that point, every time I see his pets, it's instant focus.
You need to focus alot when your level is higher (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). I'm facing http's mobs almost every round. Die at 706/1000 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) . This post has been edited by Colman: Oct 23 2013, 17:42
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Oct 23 2013, 18:03
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cruelsion
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 24 2013, 02:33)  The only mobs I remember are those of that HTTP guy. Everything hits me less than 5k, then suddenly his pet shows up and randomly crits me for 13k. So from that point, every time I see his pets, it's instant focus.
try one handed, you will feel a lot safer even in PFUDOR. I just cannot do the legendary PFUDOR IW atm because of the massive amount of dmg the crit-spells/abilities do to my spirit, not my hp it never failed below 50% unless all monsters crit their spells (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif), and lack of my spirit potions. I think I'll unlock more IA and just use all spirit pots:) QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Oct 24 2013, 02:37)  Fibre and I fear/I do not fear armies should qualify instant focus as well.
I fear monsters come into my screen every round (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I do kill them 2-6 hits even in PFUDOR with DW set but they do have really good ability dmg (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Oct 23 2013, 18:06
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erwtsnert
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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Oct 23 2013, 18:03)  try one handed, you will feel a lot safer even in PFUDOR.
I just cannot do the legendary PFUDOR IW
PFUDOR doesn't increase the amount of equipment EXP you get unfortunately, so get back to IWBTH IW (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Oct 23 2013, 18:10
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cruelsion
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Oct 24 2013, 03:06)  PFUDOR doesn't increase the amount of equipment EXP you get unfortunately, so get back to IWBTH IW (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Thanks for the advice, does PFUDOR increase loot drop chance or quality compared to IWTBH?
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