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Dec 21 2010, 04:21
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thomasishere
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Ok, i tried ROB right after i reached Level 50 and thankfully i had just decided to use a scroll of life seeing as i was brought back to life in my second to last turn before defeating dalek (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) , but was wondering if there is an easier way of defeating the bosses? ................... i Was fairly sure (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) that dalek was weak against fire, and since thats all i use i thought it would be a smooth ride but there was too many wasted scrolls and elixers in my opinion (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) . so if anyone could give me heads up as how it would be easier to defeat the other bosses i will gladly accept your wisdom (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . This post has been edited by thomasishere: Dec 21 2010, 05:47
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Dec 21 2010, 04:29
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(thomasishere @ Dec 21 2010, 02:21)  Ok, i tried ROB right after i Turned Level 50 and thankfully i had just decided to use a scroll of life seeing as i was brought back to life in my second to last turn before defeating dalek (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) , but was wondering if there is an easier way of defeating the bosses? hit hit, PA+spirit attack, hit, hit. QUOTE(thomasishere @ Dec 21 2010, 02:21)  i Was fairly sure (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) that dalek was weak against fire, and since thats all i use i thought it would be a smooth ride but there was too many wasted scrolls and elixers in my opinion (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) . so if anyone could give me heads up as how it would be easier to defeat the other bosses i will gladly accept your wisdom (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . You know there's a skill called scan... Also, read wiki.
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Dec 21 2010, 05:47
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thomasishere
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thanks and i just beat MBP way easier because his weakness was fire!
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Dec 21 2010, 18:03
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ki1ler7
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Expanding on my question about ROB
I should get my hands on some Rapiers for PA
Scrolls for spark, armor doesnt really matter that much
Now should I dual wield Rapiers or Offhand a shield
Should my attack cycle be Atk, Atk, Atk, PA, Soul, Atk, Atk, Atk, PA, Soul?
edit: my current Dual Wielding prof is 0.00 and One-Handed is 2.00, Should I get those up first or am I alright
This post has been edited by ki1ler7: Dec 21 2010, 18:05
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Dec 21 2010, 19:37
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goblinhun7er
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QUOTE(ki1ler7 @ Dec 21 2010, 17:03)  Expanding on my question about ROB
I should get my hands on some Rapiers for PA
Scrolls for spark, armor doesnt really matter that much Now should I dual wield Rapiers or Offhand a shield
Should my attack cycle be Atk, Atk, Atk, PA, Soul, Atk, Atk, Atk, PA, Soul?
edit: my current Dual Wielding prof is 0.00 and One-Handed is 2.00, Should I get those up first or am I alright
1 point of fighting style proficiency increases your chance to proc that style's ability by 0.5% if I'm reading that correctly. Dual rapier vs rapier shield probably comes down to how much interference you are willing to take, but it is generally advised to use a rapier with a shield, since a good shield alone will get you 40% avoidance already, while a rapier will only have 15% if you have a really good one, +50% offhand parry bonus. Weapon procs also override each other, so I'm not sure how well dual rapier would work. I guess it would increase PA uptime, but since you have to wait for your overcharge and spirit to restore anyways that shouldn't matter that much? I reached level 50 just now so I'm not really speaking from experience. Just saying how it appears to me.
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Dec 21 2010, 20:30
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Drewman522
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Just started playing a few days ago, looked through the forums and the wiki and all that. No real question, just looking for advise on stat and ability distribution (what i have dona and what to do in the future) and equipment advise Mostly equipment advise as i have no idea what i'm doing there, i just kind of buy randomly. here are my stats and equipment and abilities. (IMG:[ img220.imageshack.us] http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9837/statshv.png) (IMG:[ img339.imageshack.us] http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8752/equipm.png) (IMG:[ img145.imageshack.us] http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4375/abilities.png) I am going for the sword and board war, i heard that the rapier was best so i bought that, as for armor i have no idea what i should be going for. any advise you have is welcome. i am open to changing to a caster as well.
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Dec 21 2010, 21:22
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HNTI
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QUOTE(Drewman522 @ Dec 21 2010, 19:30)  I am going for the sword and board war, i heard that the rapier was best so i bought that, as for armor i have no idea what i should be going for. any advise you have is welcome. i am open to changing to a caster as well.
I guess it isn't the best idea to be a caster at the beginning, especially when you have low mana pool and limited way to replenish it + as I can see you still don't have any HP regenerating spell. And now my question : When is the best moment to switch to caster from pure warrior ? So far my 2h + full heavy armour style works fine (at least in Item World and Normal difficulty and 44 lvl.) ? My gear : 2 h swordHeadBodyHandsLegsFeetand stats (IMG:[ i56.tinypic.com] http://i56.tinypic.com/2qny35e.jpg) I've tried to be a caster, but my casting skills suck when number of enemies exceed 4 :/. This post has been edited by HNTI: Dec 21 2010, 21:25
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Dec 21 2010, 21:36
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hyl
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40 or 50 should be enough to be a caster (because you can use 2 different elemental spells, usually lighting and fire) or wait till you can get the 2nd elemental tier spells.
This post has been edited by hyl: Dec 21 2010, 21:36
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Dec 21 2010, 22:38
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HNTI
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I know that I CAN be a caster, but the problem is that extermination of monsters isn't so smooth as it's when I use 2 hand sword (AoE DMG + sometimes multiple bleed effects). With 2 hand sword I take about 140 DMG (I don't count bleeding effect to it) on the main target and with magical attacks something like 30 DMG on single target :/.
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Dec 21 2010, 22:43
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hyl
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if you start out as a mage, you should probably get some gear with decent elemental profiencies or you will not kill anything as fast as 2h. Als you should only get spells if you can max the aoe spell, if not don't bother. Maxing the aoe spell will increase it's damage and reduce it's mp cost.
This post has been edited by hyl: Dec 21 2010, 22:45
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Dec 21 2010, 23:02
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HNTI
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Ok, maybe I put it this way : how efficient are Tier 1 AoE spells (given average gear at my level) ? And how doe mana regen look when you use, let's say :
Inferno: Unleashes an inferno of flames on all hostile targets, causing Fire damage. Base cost is 12, reduced to 6 when maxed.
P.S I'm pretty sure that Wiki mana costs aren't up to date >_>.
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Dec 21 2010, 23:11
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hyl
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basecost will be 6% of your level. (rounded up) in your case 44*0.06= 2.64= 3 mp
And i need 2 tier 1 spells or 1 tier 2 spell to 1hko a mob on normal. i might (not all the time, because of resisting or targetting the wrong monster) be able to 1hko mobs on hard with an infusion with a tier 2 spell.
edit: when i was level 50, i needed 2 or 3 spells (or more when they resisted) to kill a mob (excluding mini bosses and bosses)
edit: i use potions, second winds and mana gems to regain mp, my natural regain is never enough to keep up with my spells. I can easily go up to 250+ (unless my spell misses and i take 600+ damage per attack on the higher levels) with 7 greater mana potions.
edit2: i only use elec spells as my elemental spell.
This post has been edited by hyl: Dec 21 2010, 23:27
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Dec 21 2010, 23:29
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HNTI
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I see, well I guess i need to get a good gear as the best staff which I have right now is Fair redwood staff of the fox, but even earlier I have to find out some way to earn credits for that gear after last drastic reduction of princess on bazaar :/. Yeah I know that you have to use mana potions, but I'm worried that I'll have to use them so often that with only 5 slots for potions, I won't be able to do 35 rounds in Item World, not mentioning more mana draining encounters. This post has been edited by HNTI: Dec 21 2010, 23:34
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Dec 21 2010, 23:31
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hyl
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if you can, try to find a decent ebony staff of elemental, (your element, like mjolnir) or destruction. Your current staff is fairly weak.
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Dec 21 2010, 23:43
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HNTI
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And what about this one ? Average Ebony Staff of Focus(I'm thinking about buying it) and should I depend on Ether Theft proc or not really ?
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Dec 21 2010, 23:46
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hyl
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ether theft should not be something to worry about if you can kill mobs in 1 or 2 spells. Also i don't think it's usefull if the mobs start hitting for over 600 after round 200.
edit: that staff is much better than your current staff
This post has been edited by hyl: Dec 21 2010, 23:54
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Dec 22 2010, 00:18
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HNTI
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Heh, yeah I know that's not a big deal to worry about monsters when you kill them swiftly, but after all you lose mana, so I though that a staff with a nice proc chance for ET may put out a bit a moment when I'll be either out of mana or mana potions.
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Dec 22 2010, 00:24
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hyl
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if you are out of mana and potions, then ether theft won't do anything unless you have a monster that's effected by coalcend mana . That proc only triggers when monsters are hit by spells (without mana, magic missile is your only spell) and after that you can hit monsters with your staff to steal some mana. By the time you get some monsters you will be very likely be killed or near death when you are on the higher rounds.
if I run out mana , that means a quick death.
This post has been edited by hyl: Dec 22 2010, 00:30
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Dec 22 2010, 00:37
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voyagervsborg
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HNTI, your equipment for all your armour links to items that require level 100+, but your sword is level 30-ish. Can you currently wear items that are over your level or are those not your real items but the link just doesn't work?
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Dec 22 2010, 00:48
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goblinhun7er
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QUOTE(voyagervsborg @ Dec 21 2010, 23:37)  HNTI, your equipment for all your armour links to items that require level 100+, but your sword is level 30-ish. Can you currently wear items that are over your level or are those not your real items but the link just doesn't work?
You can wear items that are over your level, however the benefit you gain from them is reduced as their stats, except for burden and interference, are scaled down to your level, and you only benefit from the stats as indicated in brackets any higher level than you item has.
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