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post Oct 18 2013, 23:04
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 18 2013, 12:53) *

How do your battle inventories look like? I have 1/9 health and 8/9 mana pots. Surely you can't keep using SS when doing 100+ rounds Arena on Phudor, or can you?


10 godly manas and 5 godly spirit potions is what I carry. You don't carry even one spirit potion? What if you run out of spirit? Then you can't use Spark of Life, Spirit Stance, or Spirit Shield. Also by this point you shouldn't be carrying Health pots anymore. Mana pots are a lot more efficient as far as regen and cures are concerned.

Of course I can (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . I can spam spirit stance the whole PFUDOR DwD (I use skills quite a bit along with stance on DWD though) and still have 2-3 spirit pots left. Arenas with regular mobs I can go much much further, hundreds of rounds using spirit stance every time it hits 250 OC.

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post Oct 18 2013, 23:07
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Oct 18 2013, 23:04) *

10 godly manas and 5 godly spirit potions is what I carry. You don't carry even one spirit potion? What if you run out of spirit? Then you can't use Spark of Life, Spirit Stance, or Spirit Shield. Also by this point you shouldn't be carrying Health pots anymore. Mana pots are a lot more efficient as far as regen and cures are concerned.

Of course I can (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . I can spam spirit stance the whole PFUDOR DwD and still have 2-3 spirit pots left.


What why I said I only use spirit as a defense mechanism. lol
As long as they don't 1 shot me, I can keep going.

Anyway, talking to you has been insightful, thanks.


Edit: Hundreds of rounds with DW or Estoc? Mind = Blown if DW.

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post Oct 18 2013, 23:11
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 18 2013, 13:07) *

What why I said I only use spirit as a defense mechanism. lol
As long as they don't 1 shot me, I can keep going.

Anyway, talking to you has been insightful, thanks.
Edit: Hundreds of rounds with DW or Estoc? Mind = Blown if DW.


Oh I can go much farther with DW on grindfest than I can estoc. Like 150-200 rounds more than estoc. Most (if not all) 350+ level players can go hundreds of rounds on the highest difficulty.
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post Oct 18 2013, 23:28
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 19 2013, 02:34) *

just buy ozyyyk leg ethereal mace of slaughter for the test , starrk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
50M (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

i thought his estoc, wrong reply (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Oct 18 2013, 23:35
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i thought his estoc, wrong reply (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

his estoc sold to amiya than alazif85 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


btw , pagi amat elu OL (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Oct 18 2013, 23:42
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 19 2013, 04:35) *

his estoc sold to amiya than alazif85 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
btw , pagi amat elu OL (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

just wake up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 18 2013, 23:43
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just wake up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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just check it again , owner that estoc become amiya again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Oct 18 2013, 23:48
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 18 2013, 13:43) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
just check it again , owner that estoc become amiya again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Alazif was just borrowing it. Just to show him how shitty his estoc is compared to a 100x forged one.
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post Oct 19 2013, 00:04
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I've decided to opt for a Spike Shield; because right now I have the ability points and nothing to spend it on at my current level for my heavy melee builds, and I noticed it didn't change the cost of the protection spell at all. I opted for Frost Spikes since Freezing Limbs lowers enemy resistance to wind, which is the current elemental strike on my weapon.

Should I be considering another spike element for some reaction with wind strike I'm unaware of? Would one of the other element's secondary debuffs trump the slowing effect in some way I haven't foreseen?
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post Oct 19 2013, 00:17
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QUOTE(dragonandon @ Oct 18 2013, 14:04) *

Should I be considering another spike element for some reaction with wind strike I'm unaware of? Would one of the other element's secondary debuffs trump the slowing effect in some way I haven't foreseen?


It's debatable which one is best really. I would just stick with the cold spikes if I were you, the decreased wind resist being the main reason since your weapon is tempestuous. The slowing effect will make you take less damage too.

Personally I like to use wind spikes because I use electric infusions a lot and I like the increase miss chance with my shade. Still, I really don't know if this is the best choice. Fire spikes are 10% reduced damage, that sounds pretty sweet, I might try it out see if I notice any difference, lol.
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post Oct 19 2013, 01:16
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Oct 18 2013, 18:17) *

It's debatable which one is best really. I would just stick with the cold spikes if I were you, the decreased wind resist being the main reason since your weapon is tempestuous. The slowing effect will make you take less damage too.

Personally I like to use wind spikes because I use electric infusions a lot and I like the increase miss chance with my shade. Still, I really don't know if this is the best choice. Fire spikes are 10% reduced damage, that sounds pretty sweet, I might try it out see if I notice any difference, lol.



I was curious about this too. It felt like 10% reduced damage wasn't as good as 10% reduced miss.

The value might be be something like '10% on some base stat' instead of a flat 10%. In that case shade has more evade than PMI usually, so miss chance is better.
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post Oct 19 2013, 02:01
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Oct 19 2013, 01:16) *
I was curious about this too. It felt like 10% reduced damage wasn't as good as 10% reduced miss.

The value might be be something like '10% on some base stat' instead of a flat 10%. In that case shade has more evade than PMI usually, so miss chance is better.

And after some grinding for 1H prof, I am now bend toward shock spike. Not missing my strike due to parry or evade can prevent a really stressful complexion.


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10 godly manas and 5 godly spirit potions is what I carry. You don't carry even one spirit potion? What if you run out of spirit? Then you can't use Spark of Life, Spirit Stance, or Spirit Shield. Also by this point you shouldn't be carrying Health pots anymore. Mana pots are a lot more efficient as far as regen and cures are concerned.

Of course I can (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . I can spam spirit stance the whole PFUDOR DwD (I use skills quite a bit along with stance on DWD though) and still have 2-3 spirit pots left. Arenas with regular mobs I can go much much further, hundreds of rounds using spirit stance every time it hits 250 OC.

Spirit shield's not yet available at his level. Even I haven't seen it useful yet. 35% to trigger is still too rare. Also, health pot can come to rescue sometimes. I'm always grateful for single health pots when enduring multitude crits, magic, and spirit attack at final rounds (my weaken still need some cooldown). They're not often, but if it happen, it was good.

1 Health Pot, 6 Mana Pots, 3 Spirit Pots.

edit: oh, is it 209 now? That's fast! He was 193 yesterday.


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btw , pagi amat elu OL (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Speak for yourself! You're here since 1 AM, and now nearing 7 AM.
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post Oct 19 2013, 02:01
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ Oct 19 2013, 01:16) *

I was curious about this too. It felt like 10% reduced damage wasn't as good as 10% reduced miss.

The value might be be something like '10% on some base stat' instead of a flat 10%. In that case shade has more evade than PMI usually, so miss chance is better.

I'd think as a followup; generally inquiring if the effects are multiplicative or additive with other debuffs would help.
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post Oct 19 2013, 02:10
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If I'm not forging/levelling equips, is the 3PAB on equips really better than the ones with 2PAB, point-by-point wise? Cos it seems to me that the kind with 2PAB has higher PAB stats
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post Oct 19 2013, 02:36
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That depend on weapon stats , but of course 3 PAB is better than 2 PAB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Except that 3 PAB stats get troll (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


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btw , how did you know what I post to revsex (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Google translate or org indo yg tinggal di eropa (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Oct 19 2013, 02:38
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Oct 19 2013, 02:10) *

If I'm not forging/levelling equips, is the 3PAB on equips really better than the ones with 2PAB, point-by-point wise? Cos it seems to me that the kind with 2PAB has higher PAB stats


Depends on quality too. High quality ones will almost always have good 3PAB rolls, if they don't they'll have all other stats near max which is just as desirable. But in general, if you can get 3PAB get 3PAB.
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post Oct 19 2013, 05:13
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Oct 19 2013, 11:38) *

Depends on quality too. High quality ones will almost always have good 3PAB rolls, if they don't they'll have all other stats near max which is just as desirable. But in general, if you can get 3PAB get 3PAB.


Well I'm asking that because 3PAB's price is jack up much higher than 2PAB's (I'm thinking 3x-10x the price). It's understandable since forging makes 3PAB even better, but if I'm not doing it, I suppose the difference isn't worth

On other note, is there any way to check this loot drop limit?
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post Oct 19 2013, 08:36
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Since I acquired a trick to play HV, I'm able to play at 2-3 turns per second, not 2-3 seconds per turn like it used to be. But this gives raise to some silly problem, I play much more. Time used might be the same, but the round count is more than double (I earn 40k yesterday, yay!). It took more stamina, and I'm hesitant to play higher level arena since I won't get the usual 100% bonus experience when hourlies turn up.

What's your stamina strategy? Do you stay away from arena to gain full advantage of hourlies? Or just play them anyway?

Buying energy drinks is not feasible for me yet.
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post Oct 19 2013, 09:05
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 19 2013, 17:36) *

Since I acquired a trick to play HV, I'm able to play at 2-3 turns per second, not 2-3 seconds per turn like it used to be. But this gives raise to some silly problem, I play much more. Time used might be the same, but the round count is more than double (I earn 40k yesterday, yay!). It took more stamina, and I'm hesitant to play higher level arena since I won't get the usual 100% bonus experience when hourlies turn up.

What's your stamina strategy? Do you stay away from arena to gain full advantage of hourlies? Or just play them anyway?

Buying energy drinks is not feasible for me yet.


I just want to answer that cuz im most of the time over 80 stamina

I just do pfudor eternal darkness for arena and the RE daily, if im short on credits I sometimes clear most arenas and hell difficulty T&T (that's as far difficulty i can get to sleep walk through without even looking at HV - I watch anime while spamming 1-0 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )
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