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post Oct 17 2013, 13:15
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 17 2013, 02:27) *

and as for your questions, read this first
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Thanks, Clarkiest... I've been reading that for tips. I'm just wondering a few things beyond that page.

I seem to be doing much better lately, but I do wonder... Is it best to wear less plate armor because of the burden thing? I've got plate in every slot, as my post in the previous page shows. What do you other plate wearing two-handers do? Wear only a breastplate, and legs, and a helmet maybe? Or do you wear full suits?

Also, just wondering how people can make it into the forties and fifties of combat rounds.

All of the stuff on that advice page is gold, of course... I might have to pick up a crude two-handed weapon and piece of plate to level my skills with in the item world for those items, like it says there.

And wondering about training. What are your thoughts, folks, on a newer person saving up for the "Assimilator" training? It's expensive, but It seems to me that getting it as soon as possible is a good idea (At least one level of it, it's really expensive as I'm sure you all know).

Thanks again for the help!

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post Oct 17 2013, 13:16
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 17 2013, 13:11) *

True. I've been able to always win IWBTH hourlies since lvl120 or so. Let us check your stat and equipments. Tell us your playing tactics, like what buff you first cast and stuffs.

Now that I've seen your quips, I got to say they're good. They're way too good!! (Give me some of it!!) Your stat must be colorful with those.

Also, you don't play PFUDOR on arena with shades at your level. It won't give you enough defence just yet.


Haste, Protection, Shadow Veil, Regen, Heartseeker, SoL, Mana Pot with Cures in between, rest spent on attacks. Don't think I'm doing anything wrong here.
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post Oct 17 2013, 13:19
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Always wear a full suit of the same type, you'll need it. Later on you can mix plate with power to kill faster. Featherweight shards can be used to reduce burden by 1/2 or 7, whichever's higher. Plate's good for 2H for the biggest part.

Just leveling, unlocking abilities and getting better gear will allow you to clear all arena challenges and go far in Grindfest.

Assimiliator isn't a big at your level really. I'd say invest into pack rat.
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post Oct 17 2013, 13:20
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 17 2013, 22:11) *

I see, just started 2 days ago with this game again, so I guess I still have much to learn, but well, here it is:
For Battletoads Random and high level Arana
Mace

For Pfudor low level Arena
Club
Rapier

Helm
Chest
Gaunt
Legs
Boots

Only gauntlet is a bit crappy.

Edit: In regards to your second post. As I said, even with Haste, Protection, Shadow Veil, Regen on, I get 1 hit. And I can only use SoL 2 times, there's also a chance that I might get killed when my Cure is on CD. So really, there are a lot of factors that makes it nearly impossible for me at the moment.


No lies here, even though I dont play DW and only have about 200 prof. on it.

You have Much Much better weapons than
mine

I post mine here

I bought this crap at 200k credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) just two days ago cuz I dont like that burden

rapier

and trust me with this equip and heavy set I clear PFUDOR random encounter at least within 1.5 mins.

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post Oct 17 2013, 13:24
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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Oct 17 2013, 13:20) *

No lies here, even though I dont play DW and only have about 200 prof. on it.

You have Much Much better weapons than
mine

I post mine here

I bought this crap at 200k credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) just two days ago cuz I dont like that burden

rapier

and trust me with this equip and heavy set I clear PFUDOR random encounter at least within 1.5 mins.



Well, problem probably lies with my survivability rather than weapons, no idea how I die so fast and using full Protection set is like trading 10% eva for 10% PMit, so it really shouln't change that much.
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post Oct 17 2013, 13:26
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Oversoul

Summing it up.

1. Use heavy armour (even though I have more proficiency at light I love heavy much more (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))

2. Keep your light set for fast clearing GF or arenas

3. Train pack rats and put health pots (keep in mind that each equip set has separate battle inventory)

4. Use SILENCE - the same reason why Kassadin is always banned in League Of Legends if you play the game (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Oct 17 2013, 13:31
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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Oct 17 2013, 13:26) *

Oversoul

Summing it up.

1. Use heavy armour (even though I have more proficiency at light I love heavy much more (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif))

2. Keep your light set for fast clearing GF or arenas

3. Train pack rats and put health pots (keep in mind that each equip set has separate battle inventory)

4. Use SILENCE - the same reason why Kassadin is always banned in League Of Legends if you play the game (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



I'll try Protection Light, I'm just too lazy to grind proficiency. Will get Silence at lvl 250 (should be 1-2 weeks), yeah....grinding prof is just gay.
Also, I'm Diamond elo on LoL, maybe we can play sometime. :3
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post Oct 17 2013, 13:33
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QUOTE(merctime @ Oct 17 2013, 13:15) *
I seem to be doing much better lately, but I do wonder... Is it best to wear less plate armor because of the burden thing? I've got plate in every slot, as my post in the previous page shows. What do you other plate wearing two-handers do? Wear only a breastplate, and legs, and a helmet maybe? Or do you wear full suits?

You don't mix heavy with lights. If you choose to wear heavies, go with it a whole. You can mix plates and powers of course, but powers is a bit early for you, its defence is not so good without having large enough endurance. As a rule, heavies provide best protection in form of PMI (physical mitigation). PMI play large part on lower level's defense, they're the best answer for survivability for now. If you have trouble surviving with full plates of protections, that only mean you played difficulties not meant for you.

For burden, you just got to deal with it. It slow you down a bit, but no monster is fast enough to hit you twice in a single turn. Well, no monster yet. You don't forget to cast buffs, do you? Protection and regen is enough, I think. Later on, you will depend on haste and veil, but not just yet.

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QUOTE(merctime @ Oct 17 2013, 13:15) *
Also, just wondering how people can make it into the forties and fifties of combat rounds.

I was told Item world is not for me before lvl 250. I did item world anyway, but I can only survive in Hell. At Nintendo, I died at some round after 100. Also, you don't play grindfest if your aim is credit. Grindfest is for crystal, and maybe quick leveling tactic. Stick with arena for its credit. And if you have a time, get yourself beaten at grindfest.

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And wondering about training. What are your thoughts, folks, on a newer person saving up for the "Assimilator" training? It's expensive, but It seems to me that getting it as soon as possible is a good idea (At least one level of it, it's really expensive as I'm sure you all know).

I don't have a single level of assimilator. I used to be able to jump two level in just a single IWBTH hourly, now I need 20 PFUDOR hourlies to raise a level. Leveling get harder once you hit 225. And it is said it become harder still. Don't worry about proficiency just yet. It will caught up. Besides, proficiency under 200 only offers meager bonus.
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post Oct 17 2013, 13:36
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 17 2013, 22:31) *

I'll try Protection Light, I'm just too lazy to grind proficiency. Will get Silence at lvl 250 (should be 1-2 weeks), yeah....grinding prof is just gay.
Also, I'm Diamond elo on LoL, maybe we can play sometime. :3


Man If you can duo me out of this stupid gold 2 I give you 1m credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I just can't even get to plat (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Oct 17 2013, 13:40
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Clarkiest, that was an awesome bunch of advice. Thanks a ton, man... +K for you!

Edit: Ack, I can only imbue with like 36 karma. I'll wait to +K you until I can give more than that. But, I will, I promise. I really do appreciate the advice.

I haven't been mixing armors at all, what I meant was, should I leave a slot or two open with nothing worn in it, to reduce the burden? But yeah, I've read that you shouldn't mix the armor types and things.

About the proficiencies, hmm. Maybe I should just keep playing and let them go up naturally, as you say. I suppose I'm just excited! haha.

Well, about buffs, All I really have at this time is Protection, Haste, Regen etc. I use them, but I don't keep them up all the time because of mana cost. Should I just keep those up all the time regardless? I mean, I do buff... But usually when I think I need them. I usually save my mana for cures.

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post Oct 17 2013, 13:40
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I just bought snowflakes at Bazaar

named

Twinkling snowflake, shimmering, scintillating snowflakes

each 2k credits

what do they do?
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post Oct 17 2013, 13:42
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 17 2013, 13:16) *
Haste, Protection, Shadow Veil, Regen, Heartseeker, SoL, Mana Pot with Cures in between, rest spent on attacks. Don't think I'm doing anything wrong here.

Here's my recipe for invincible hourlies
Haste -> SOL -> Sleep -> Pots -> Regen -> Prot -> Veil (no veil if 1H) -> Weaken & Silence -> Hack hack hack.
I don't cast Heartseeker before Regen, its long cast time render me vulnerable to multiple attacts. I rarely cast Spirit shield since it's still useless at my level.

Your shadowdancer is awesome at a glance, but I'm not sure about its PMI. High enough? You'll need over 50% PMI stat about now.
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post Oct 17 2013, 13:49
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QUOTE(merctime @ Oct 17 2013, 13:40) *
Well, about buffs, All I really have at this time is Protection, Haste, Regen etc. I use them, but I don't keep them up all the time because of mana cost. Should I just keep those up all the time regardless? I mean, I do buff... But usually when I think I need them. I usually save my mana for cures.

Casting cure too often is a good indication you overestimate your survivability. Mana cost is big since you wear stuffs with high interference. It's a problem indeed, but after few levels it's not that big of a problem. Buy pack-rat, that's the most useful training you can have. Buy it at least until level 4. I don't, and will not train over level 5.

You don't leave armor slots open. You'd die.
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post Oct 17 2013, 13:56
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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Oct 17 2013, 13:36) *

Man If you can duo me out of this stupid gold 2 I give you 1m credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I just can't even get to plat (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)



Well, I can try to help you get Plat, but you don't need to pay. And If your gears are really worse than me. Then I'm pretty sure you can that 1m yourself lol
I'm at the point where I don't really care about my elo, just waiting for season 4 :3
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post Oct 17 2013, 13:56
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Assimilator, misc postin, culinarian and gnetleman are the worst training ever

I have assimilator lv 2, got it back when i was less than 200lv and now i have all nearly max prof on my main sets.

unless you are mage i think you shouldnt train assimilator
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post Oct 17 2013, 14:03
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 17 2013, 04:49) *

Casting cure too often is a good indication you overestimate your survivability. Mana cost is big since you wear stuffs with high interference. It's a problem indeed, but after few levels it's not that big of a problem. Buy pack-rat, that's the most useful training you can have. Buy it at least until level 4. I don't, and will not train over level 5.

You don't leave armor slots open. You'd die.



Dude, you are the bomb. Thanks a ton for your help. Still waiting to +K you for when I can imbue you with the full amount... Wish it would hurry up! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 17 2013, 22:56) *

Well, I can try to help you get Plat, but you don't need to pay. And If your gears are really worse than me. Then I'm pretty sure you can that 1m yourself lol
I'm at the point where I don't really care about my elo, just waiting for season 4 :3


when is season 4 coming out?? I can't wait to play magma chamber

I have 4 lol accounts btw and I had a diamond one "Get Dough" but didnt play for half a year it got drop to plat due to the ping from here.

when i go back to korea I might reactivate it since it's better ping there (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

For my current main account, Aussies are just full of retards making it such that below plat is impossible to carry alone... classic ELO HELL

I wonder if you know what it is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 17 2013, 13:42) *

Here's my recipe for invincible hourlies
Haste -> SOL -> Sleep -> Pots -> Regen -> Prot -> Veil (no veil if 1H) -> Weaken & Silence -> Hack hack hack.
I don't cast Heartseeker before Regen, its long cast time render me vulnerable to multiple attacts. I rarely cast Spirit shield since it's still useless at my level.

Your shadowdancer is awesome at a glance, but I'm not sure about its PMI. High enough? You'll need over 50% PMI stat about now.


It's 51%, doesn't seem to be enough. Have 6.5k hp, they seem to hit 4.5k every 2 turns.
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 17 2013, 12:59) *

Best I can do is Battletoads Random Encounters, currently using Mace/SD Light for that. On Pfudor, I get 1 hit. Or am I just doing it wrong?

Edit: I think my gears are fine, almost everything SD max ADB. Not sure if i should go for Protection gears though.


Isn't Spirit Shield unlocked after lv 200 (and Full cure?)?This will block damages over 50% of your HP so you won't get one shot.

I'm full AP with not much defense but still can clear 95% of the random encounters even against the maximum amount of mobs.My only rule is to start with Spirit Shield then stay alive until all my BUFFS (not using anything like silence or sleep, never need them anywhere) are up.To counter the mana issue and cure/full cure regen I can throw up to 4/5 health potions while doing it, using my mana wisely and waiting for a channelling spirit to pop up for heartseeker at last since it uses too much mana.You might have to use an heroic Spirit pot at the beginning sometimes.

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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Oct 17 2013, 14:03) *

when is season 4 coming out?? I can't wait to play magma chamber

I have 4 lol accounts btw and I had a diamond one "Get Dough" but didnt play for half a year it got drop to plat due to the ping from here.

when i go back to korea I might reactivate it since it's better ping there (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

For my current main account, Aussies are just full of retards making it such that below plat is impossible to carry alone... classic ELO HELL

I wonder if you know what it is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



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Just got raped by Phudor Randoms again. Looks pretty much impossible to me. T_T
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