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post Dec 15 2010, 14:14
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QUOTE(yggdrasilseed01 @ Dec 15 2010, 12:00) *

You can counter 1 burden by spending 6 points on agi (without x-attack and for tier1/standard abilities only, for purposes of simplification). Each 1 wisdom or 1 int will negate the effects of 0.04 interference.
Other than that all you can really do is use items with lower burden/interference. As hentai_fusion said, high level items give you higher drawbacks if you are on a lower level. This is because burden and interference are not scaled down like the other stats (the ones in in brackets are the stats adjusted to your current level).
Raising your armor proficiencies will also reduce burden and interference for those items.
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post Dec 15 2010, 15:00
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Thx you 2,
But my equip (except weapon and shield), all of it is 1x level equip (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
If I only wear cloth armor, it'd better ?
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post Dec 15 2010, 16:26
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no, it would almost certainly be not better. in fact it might be even worst.

you are already almost on full cloth. switching your remaining heavy and light to cloth is not going to reduce your burden and interference by much.

in fact it might be even better for you to go full heavy at your level, so long as the level of the heavy armor isn't too high.

why? because at your level your attack sucks so the only way to survive long enough is to go full heavy which will provide the defense you need to absorb and migitate the damage the monsters deal to you.


edit: what i have said is based on my general assumption about high level weapons, cloth, light and heavy armor. you might want to post the links to your equipment in order for us to provide you with more accurate advices...

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post Dec 15 2010, 16:59
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that's it , when i will reach level 52 (to have infusion slot) i will start to do some bosses in ring of blood

i need some advices about my strategy
i will use DW with rapier in mainhaind and a dagger for bleed... i will keep them poisoned and weakened using infusion of their weakness type, i will also haste and shield me

so i'm almost sure that i will take without problems their main attack even without mitigation gear (that i don't have)
what bothers me it's their magical and spirit attack

some people use scrolls of gods to survive one shots and recover hp with godly health potions

it's possible to do them melee+deprecating+supportive without scrolls of the gods? (perhaps using scrolls of the barrier and keeping hp near 80%)

i have 6 item slots; i will surely use one for a spirit potion, should i bring more health potions or more mana potion? considering that cure spell will heal me for about 20% of my hp

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post Dec 15 2010, 17:32
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Dec 15 2010, 16:26) *

no, it would almost certainly be not better. in fact it might be even worst.

you are already almost on full cloth. switching your remaining heavy and light to cloth is not going to reduce your burden and interference by much.

in fact it might be even better for you to go full heavy at your level, so long as the level of the heavy armor isn't too high.

why? because at your level your attack sucks so the only way to survive long enough is to go full heavy which will provide the defense you need to absorb and migitate the damage the monsters deal to you.
edit: what i have said is based on my general assumption about high level weapons, cloth, light and heavy armor. you might want to post the links to your equipment in order for us to provide you with more accurate advices...

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ya, this is my stat and my equip

Then, If I go to full heavy, my action speed will reduce a lot, is it ok ?
You mean choose the heavy equip the end is protection,warding to get absorb and mitigation, right?
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post Dec 15 2010, 18:23
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QUOTE(tribalspirit @ Dec 15 2010, 22:59) *

that's it , when i will reach level 52 (to have infusion slot) i will start to do some bosses in ring of blood

i need some advices about my strategy
i will use DW with rapier in mainhaind and a dagger for bleed... i will keep them poisoned and weakened using infusion of their weakness type, i will also haste and shield me

so i'm almost sure that i will take without problems their main attack even without mitigation gear (that i don't have)
what bothers me it's their magical and spirit attack

some people use scrolls of gods to survive one shots and recover hp with godly health potions

it's possible to do them melee+deprecating+supportive without scrolls of the gods? (perhaps using scrolls of the barrier and keeping hp near 80%)

i have 6 item slots; i will surely use one for a spirit potion, should i bring more health potions or more mana potion? considering that cure spell will heal me for about 20% of my hp


it is possible to do them melee+deprecating+supportive without scrolls of the gods? (perhaps using scrolls of the barrier and keeping hp near 80%) but i doubt you will be able to survive a 100% spirit attack even with full hp. 50% spirit attack... maybe...

just pack a scroll of god or life and use it when its SP reaches 50%... just in case...

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ya, this is my stat and my equip

Then, If I go to full heavy, my action speed will reduce a lot, is it ok ?
You mean choose the heavy equip the end is protection,warding to get absorb and mitigation, right?


http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment#Equipment_Popups
that is what i meant...


with your existing setup, your burden is already pretty high and your action speed is already being reduced by quite a lot. furthermore with an almost full cloth setup, your defense is pretty low and will not survive the monsters' double turn attacks on you.

the heavy setup will help you absorb and mitigate the monsters' double turn attacks on you.

try getting heavy armor that is below level 100 and with as low burden and interferance as possible.

the heavy setup will not work if you do not ditch those level 200+ weapons...
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post Dec 15 2010, 18:50
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For the selling experts:

How much could I get for this? Fine Gossamer Robe of the Demon-Fiend
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post Dec 15 2010, 19:09
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QUOTE(yggdrasilseed01 @ Dec 15 2010, 16:32) *

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ya, this is my stat and my equip

Then, If I go to full heavy, my action speed will reduce a lot, is it ok ?
You mean choose the heavy equip the end is protection,warding to get absorb and mitigation, right?


Don't be afraid of slow action speed before you understand it.
Each action takes time to complete. That action time is:
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action time = (300 - action speed) * (specific action time * x-action multiplier) + (burden - 20)/2

Basic actions with a time factor of 1.0 (like attack) will take 0.5 more time per burden and 1.0 less time per 3 agi. That's why I said earlier that 1 burden can get countered by 6 agi.
Your enemies also have an action time. When you enter combat and monsters spawn you can read something like this:
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0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=2 (Tentacle Monster) LV=40 HP=432 MP=18 SP=10 NA=95 Type=hostile

NA=95 (NextAction=95) means that its next action will occur in 95 time units. NA is the monster's initiative, but it is 95 only for the first round of combat. Its real action time is NAx2, in this example 95*2=190.

The difference in action time between you and your opponent accumulates, and when that difference becomes large enough one of you will get an additional, "free", turn.

With 25 agility and 51.1 burden, your action time for a 1.0 standard action (attack, defend, basic spells) is 207.22. Compared to the 190 action time of the monster in the example (NA=95, x2) you get 207.22/190=1.09. The monster is 1.09 times as fast as you. That 0.09 time difference will accumulate over each turn until it reaches 1, which is the time for another base action, at which point the monster will get a free hit against you.
With a speed difference of 1.09 that should take about 11 turns (1/(1.09-1)).

Lower burden means that this extra attack will occur later, while using higher tier spells which take longer than 1.0 to complete will give the monsters more opportunity to make extra attacks.

This is nothing official, it is just what I have gathered over the last few days by reading stuff. Maybe that is complete overkill, but maybe it helps. Make of it what you will.
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post Dec 15 2010, 19:18
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Moe, I think you could easily get 40-50k credits for that, but only at auction.

Also, I beat the bosses in the ring of blood arenas with a burden of 46.2.

All you need to do is use a scroll of the gods and then attack with rapier until it procs PA, then, once Overcharge is maxed out, use spirit attack only while PA is active...then, use a spirit potion to recharge spirit points and repeat process, making sure to use another scroll of gods if you end up using spark of life and keep an eye on your hp.

They are fairly easy. I beat my first Boss in an Item world at Level 48.
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post Dec 15 2010, 19:22
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the bosses you meet in item world and grindfest are usually a lot weaker than the ones you will find in RoB because for item world and grindfest "monster damage starts at 50% base and increases by 1% per round".
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post Dec 15 2010, 19:23
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Dec 15 2010, 11:22) *

the bosses you meet in item world and grindfest are usually a lot weaker than the ones you will find in RoB because for item world and grindfest "monster damage starts at 50% base and increases by 1% per round".


Yeah, it was on round 28 of 47. I still had to use nearly all the potions I had to win...XD
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post Dec 15 2010, 19:43
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Moe, I think you could easily get 40-50k credits for that, but only at auction.


Nice. Though I think I'll wait for either Hito, cmal or Conquest's opinion.

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post Dec 15 2010, 20:03
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QUOTE(Moe Zayik @ Dec 15 2010, 11:43) *

Nice. Though I think I'll wait for either Hito, cmal or Conquest's opinion.


Not a problem. I'm still learning, so that might be best (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Dec 15 2010, 20:54
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Guys. Should I save the next 4 aura points (160, 170, 180, 190) for Focused Aura III (@190) and then spend them on Red, Orange, Yellow and Green. Or should I spend them on Blue, Indigo and Violet before then?

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post Dec 15 2010, 21:02
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QUOTE(Moe Zayik @ Dec 15 2010, 11:43) *

Nice. Though I think I'll wait for either Hito, cmal or Conquest's opinion.

Yeah, you would probably get something with 5 digits in an auction. It's pretty good, but I doubt most people would want to spend the time to level it 100-150+ times.
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post Dec 15 2010, 21:16
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Dang, right now, I'm saving up to get the White Aura :| Still a long ways to go...unless someone is nice enough to help me (not that they have to (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif))
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post Dec 16 2010, 07:20
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Just beat Konata and Mikuru, hesitating to try Ryoko and Yuki. I was expecting the difficulty jump with Mikuru, but anything to watch out for with Ryoko and Yuki or are they pretty much like the Mikuru battle? Edit: Nevermind, yes they were. Bad things happened to them.

Also any equipment advice? Debating switching (1) DW with Rapier/Dagger vs. The current Rapier/Shield set up and (2) Replacing the Fine Prism Plate Greaves of Protection with Fine Silk Pants of the Fleet. Tried testing it, but I haven't noticed any radical changes so I'm not sure.

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Off Hand: Fine Prism Tower Shield of the Barrier
Helmet: Average Silk Cap of the Fleet
Body: Fine Silk Robe of the Fleet
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Legs: Fine Prism Plate Greaves of Protection
Feet: Fine Silk Shoes of the Fleet

Other Stuff:
Fine Prism Dagger of the Nimble
Superior Prism Dagger of Slaughter
Fine Silk Pants of the Fleet

Also, yeah I know the EXP boost is a waste, but leveling is a pain in the ass. No excuse for wasting a point in Barrier though >_<

Thanks!

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post Dec 16 2010, 07:39
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QUOTE(Moe Zayik @ Dec 15 2010, 09:43) *

Nice. Though I think I'll wait for either Hito, cmal or Conquest's opinion.


QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Dec 15 2010, 11:02) *

It's pretty good, but I doubt most people would want to spend the time to level it 100-150+ times.



Basically sums it up. There's really only demand for Demon-Fiend gear at the higher levels and maybe a handful of the lower levels. None of whom really want to level more stuff. You might be able to get 5 digits for it, but I wouldn't count on anything too high.
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post Dec 16 2010, 10:09
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http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0159d1cc28
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Will these thing worth to level up ?
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post Dec 16 2010, 11:15
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Superior Prism Axe of the Ox +21.22 STR and nice bleed

I've got this axe with great + STR but only 27% ADM. Axe damage is based a lot on the str you have so is this any good or is a +50% ADM axe better?
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